(L+CR) Zombieland Saga

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Knowing that Yuugiri was from the Bakumatsu period, she either pissed off someone from the Emperor faction or the Shogunate, perhaps even the Shinsengumi.

Yeah, I fully expect Yugiri's episode to be some awesome samurai period drama. I hope it won't disappoint .

[blakstealth]

Speaking of yugiri. it's her birthday!

https://twitter.com/zombielandsaga/s...20920885276674

[Nivek von Beldo]

So Lily was a trap all along...this anime is legendary like the zombies, this freaking come from nowhere and was a one of hell of twist.

Still the chapter was as dramatic as funny that twist and in a way that is how make a backstory chapter... the end was cute even things.

(we need giant lily/masao fanart now)

[Alhazred]

Originally Posted by Tactics

As we explore other members death, IIRC its Yugiri and Tae that not explained yet?
While Yugiri can be easily guessed (maybe with some kind of stupid moment involved as well), that animation gif posted by James made me wonder if Tae, considering her clothes, is actually someone illiterate from distant past of Saga perfecture, similar to Yugiri.

If that were the case then given her "default" clothes i would guess she was a Amakusa Catholic nun who was somehow involved in the Shimabara Rebellion. The Hizen Province, where the rebellion was crushed, occupied parts of what are modern day Saga and Nagasaki prefectures.

[darkchibi07]

So Lily is confirmed to be transgendered. That's daring yet very welcome. It's almost amazing how her episode ended up being quite a tear-jerker.

[Nivek von Beldo]

[videoman190]

Spoiler for longest name for a episode tile ever :

Though my life have ended once by some twist of fate
I have risen, and if song and dance are to be my fate,
then carrying the memories of my comrades in my heart as I sally forth shall be my SAGA

[Nivek von Beldo]

Originally Posted by videoman190

Spoiler for For longest name for episode tile ever:

Though my life have ended once by some twist of fate
I have risen, and if song and dance are to be my fate,
then carrying the memories of my comrades in my heart as I sally forth shall be my SAGA

When i read the title was obvious who would be the next chapter

[alex_drian]

The trap shot/loli idol isn't new but the trap shota/loli zombie idol...


Oh yeah, it would be good a pair of trap jokes from now on.

[akumaten]

Originally Posted by darkchibi07

So Lily is confirmed to be transgendered. That's daring yet very welcome. It's almost amazing how her episode ended up being quite a tear-jerker.

He's not transgender. He takes features from his mother.

It makes sense why it's called Go Go Neverland SAGA, he never wanted to grow up like Peter Pan

[KleenexGhost]

I've heard some rumors that Crunchyroll took some liberties with the subtitles. Is that true?

[Requiem-x]

It took me some thinking, but when was the last time we had a trap that wasn't revealed as one almost immediately? Those are pretty rare, I think, so its no wonder Lily caught us all off guard.

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

Yeah, I fully expect Yugiri's episode to be some awesome samurai period drama. I hope it won't disappoint .

I just hope she gets one, period. Still have my doubts on that one.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

I've heard some rumors that Crunchyroll took some liberties with the subtitles. Is that true?

From what I gather, no. The contested line is Saki's "who cares what junk she has", a more literal translation is apparently "who cares what she has attached" but the meaning is obviously the same (also, in context, not much else would make sense - they're obviously talking about Lily being a boy, Saki's shrugging it off, and says it in a way that makes Junko flustered). The choice to translate as 'junk' is probably because of the pun with Junko, but same difference.

[Cao Ni Ma]

Originally Posted by akumaten

He's not transgender. He takes features from his mother.

It makes sense why it's called Go Go Neverland SAGA, he never wanted to grow up like Peter Pan

She's trans, I dont understand why this is difficult to understand. Crunchy isn't adding anything to the translation, in fact some of the translated lines actually understate the issue.

When talking with Sakura about who Masao was the more accurate translation would be "The name that I abandoned" instead of what crunchy used "My old name", there is finality in Lily's intent in that line, which just makes it more obvious when Saki is making fun of her because of it and when Kotaro emphasizes it.

When her father is looking at her picture he specifically says "That girl cant be Masao" he could have used a more gender neutral pronoun like he did when speaking to her about the child he failed. But he didn't, he's affirming her choice.

Her voice actress in a recent interview states "She's not Masao anymore, she's Lily" and about how the show is about the friendship between girls. Cant get any clearer than that other than the director explicitly saying that she's trans. And even then I'm guessing people will just claim death of the author to try to fit their world views

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by Cao Ni Ma

She's trans, I dont understand why this is difficult to understand. Crunchy isn't adding anything to the translation, in fact some of the translated lines actually understate the issue.

When talking with Sakura about who Masao was the more accurate translation would be "The name that I abandoned" instead of what crunchy used "My old name", there is finality in Lily's intent in that line, which just makes it more obvious when Saki is making fun of her because of it and when Kotaro emphasizes it.

When her father is looking at her picture he specifically says "That girl cant be Masao" he could have used a more gender neutral pronoun like he did when speaking to her about the child he failed. But he didn't, he's affirming her choice.

Her voice actress in a recent interview states "She's not Masao anymore, she's Lily" and about how the show is about the friendship between girls. Cant get any clearer than that other than the director explicitly saying that she's trans. And even then I'm guessing people will just claim death of the author to try to fit their world views

Maybe people interpret "trans" as meaning someone who has actually had a sex change operation, which obviously isn't the case here, and that's what they're denying? 'cos otherwise it doesn't make much sense, call it as you want, it's clear that she's living as a girl, that's her whole point. That's why the thing that killed her was seeing a beard hair, she realised she was hitting puberty and even though she wanted to deny being male she would actually start to change in ways that would make it impossible for her to hide it.

[KleenexGhost]

I wonder how Tae died? We've gotten some pretty wild deaths, and the buildup is only adding to my anticipation. Seeing how they've handled the ones we've seen so far, I don't know what to expect.

[Cao Ni Ma]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

Maybe people interpret "trans" as meaning someone who has actually had a sex change operation, which obviously isn't the case here, and that's what they're denying? 'cos otherwise it doesn't make much sense, call it as you want, it's clear that she's living as a girl, that's her whole point. That's why the thing that killed her was seeing a beard hair, she realised she was hitting puberty and even though she wanted to deny being male she would actually start to change in ways that would make it impossible for her to hide it.

Well thats certainly obvious that she hasn't had an op, not like its needed a whole lot anymore though

I'd understand the "its just crossdressing" if the shows text made it explicit. Rui from gatchaman is a case where the shows text actually contradicts the intent of people trying to fit him as transgendered. There is no distress caused by his sex, he often times dresses up like a boy, the enlightened buddah like character introduces him as a boy. Its far more likely that he's the typical "otokonoko" trope of a guy that likes to dress up like a girl and has no desire to actually be a girl.

Thats not the case with Lily at all.

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

I wonder how Tae died? We've gotten some pretty wild deaths, and the buildup is only adding to my anticipation. Seeing how they've handled the ones we've seen so far, I don't know what to expect.

All the girls have had a design that matches their deaths in some way. Burnt skin covered in bandages for Ai. Ripped to pieces and patched up with probably different people skin/body parts for Junko. Heart popping out for Lily because of overworked and shock. We know Sakura died from the car crash and her head injury could explain the amnesia. Saki probably died from a motorcycle accident given her facial scar as well. Yugiri got beheaded given her neck scar, and she already mentioned how samurai would test their swords on innocent civilians. Tae's all banged up and we really cant infer much do to her injuries. Maybe her clothing is a better descriptor? She uses habits as casual clothing, ripped apart do to her tendencies of putting on clothing. And she sleeps in what looks like a prisoners outfit. She also by far the oldest of the group, being almost 30 compared to the girls still being teens (Yes even Yugiri is only 19)

[KleenexGhost]

A long shot, but I was thinking that she's related to Kotaro. Him calling her "Legendary" because of that, but the prison sleepwear is a good call.

[Key Board]

Lily is meant to be portrayed as a someone who identifies as a girl and prefers female pronouns.

If you're insisting on using male pronouns, well...

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Lily is meant to be portrayed as a someone who identifies as a girl and prefers female pronouns.

Yes, the very definition of trans.

Trans people don't necessarily require an op. Sometimes the most they do is take hormone therapy. And sometimes all they do is speak to a therapist on the regular. But when it comes down to it, what makes them trans is that they identify as a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth.