[Game] Umineko - Spoilers, Theories, Interpretations

[Renall]

It could be a character representing Shkanon/MF19YA/Other Battler/etc. Whether any of those people are the same thing, or whether any of those things are true, could be entirely the point of introducing the character. But who knows, really?

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by Judoh

This has already been thought of and it's just not interesting to me sorry.

On another not I see a little Figure in that explosion after Dlanor swings her sword.

Spoiler for a figure in the explosion:

It looks like the stake Leviathan to me.

She's Dlanor, that thing you see is her red sword

[desirebluesky]

where do you see that figure?? i only see Dlanor.

[Laserworm]

Anyone notice that 'Dine' is standing in front of the original Beatrice portrait. I wonder why.

[DgBarca]

Spoiler for Volcano:

RED HOT LAVA B)

By the way...the guy in the portrait has yellow eyes, there is no way he could be human !

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Renall

It could be a character representing Shkanon/MF19YA/Other Battler/etc. Whether any of those people are the same thing, or whether any of those things are true, could be entirely the point of introducing the character. But who knows, really?

Actually... hee.

If I wanted to thoroughly crush Shkanon(trice), I would introduce a character like that, make the readers like them, put it on center stage...
...and then deny them even more brutally than Erika in the last ten pages.

[m0h]

Maybe because he rappresents the witch at the side of the family head? The golden eyes are pretty meta-world-character like to me.

[Renall]

Originally Posted by Oliver

Actually... hee.

If I wanted to thoroughly crush Shkanon(trice), I would introduce a character like that, make the readers like them, put it on center stage...
...and then deny them even more brutally than Erika in the last ten pages.

Well, it's possible this is Bern's "queen piece" Beatrice, synthesizing all the prior elements to create a Shkanon-is-Natsuhi's-baby-who-is-Asumu's-baby-and-is-Beatrice-and-Battler's-sin-target-and-also-the-culprit, to tie every plot thread together into a single bundle and advance this person as the solution to everything.

If that were the case, you'd have to be an idiot to believe it because that's so asking for it.

[Judoh]

Originally Posted by desirebluesky

where do you see that figure?? i only see Dlanor.

It's in the center. It looks like a shadow of one of the stakes and it stays in that position for the entire clip

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

She's Dlanor, that thing you see is her red sword

I don't think so. This is Dlanor's sword

Spoiler for red sword:

The explosion and the shady figure appear after she swings it. And it appears behind it. They're not the same thing.

[Laserworm]

I would totally laugh like crazy if 'Dine' turned out to be a meta version of George and 'Blonde girl' turned out to be meta version of Shkannontrice, and then they were all denied. Everyone would be so lost if culprit George, Shannon, and Kanon was denied.

[Renall]

Originally Posted by Laserworm

I would totally laugh like crazy if 'Dine' turned out to be a meta version of George and 'Blonde girl' turned out to be meta version of Shkannontrice, and then they were all denied. Everyone would be so lost if culprit George, Shannon, and Kanon was denied.

Not me, man, it would totally open the door to Magical Gohda Chef as the ultimate villain.

In fact, I'll come right out with it: If Shannon, Kanon, and George are all denied as culprits, I will believe and support that Gohda is the culprit from now until the release of ep8.

[DgBarca]

For the OP : The island is one fire, then Dlanor "cut" the "island on fire" with her sword and make it explode. The figure in the explosion is just Dlanor with her sword pointing to the "ground" she just slashed.

Also...Genji is too obvious to be the culprit in EP2...and Gohda-George-Shannon closed room...I...can't find a solution to this one...

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by Judoh

It's in the center. It looks like a shadow of one of the stakes and it stays in that position for the entire clip



I don't think so. This is Dlanor's sword

Spoiler for red sword:

The explosion and the shady figure appear after she swings it. And it appears behind it. They're not the same thing.

Judoh, really it's Dlanor, I have no doubt about it. You might think it can't be Dlanor because Dlanor appears before, but it's Dlanor.

[Judoh]

Originally Posted by DgBarca

For the OP : The island is one fire, then Dlanor "cut" the "island on fire" with her sword and make it explode. The figure in the explosion is just Dlanor with her sword pointing to the "ground" she just slashed.

That doesn't make sense to me. Dlanor and the others are one the left, while the figure is on the right in the background behind where she slashed. They're not in the same position and the figure looks farther away from that perspective.

It's not worth arguing about though we're just seeing two different things in the same video.

[Renall]

Pretty sure Dlanor's sword design is unique, so the pattern it leaves should make it pretty clear.

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by DgBarca

For the OP : The island is one fire, then Dlanor "cut" the "island on fire" with her sword and make it explode. The figure in the explosion is just Dlanor with her sword pointing to the "ground" she just slashed.

Incidentally... This might hint at the multistage explosion I have suggested previously.

That is, the mansion is burned up and wrecked by a relatively regular fire (probably a small amount of gas canisters -- would be nice for insurance, methinks) which soon after causes the unexpected and unanticipated detonation of something else entirely that actually changes the landscape.

[Laserworm]

Originally Posted by Oliver

Incidentally... This might hint at the multistage explosion I have suggested previously.

That is, the mansion is burned up and wrecked by a relatively regular fire (probably a small amount of gas canisters -- would be nice for insurance, methinks) which soon after causes the unexpected and unanticipated detonation of something else entirely that actually changes the landscape.

I hope we aren't getting trolled by the OP and portrait (at least not too much)

btw I love your sig Oliver that is so funny XD

[DgBarca]

Originally Posted by Judoh

That doesn't make sense to me. Dlanor and the others are one the left, while the figure is on the right in the background behind where she slashed. They're not in the same position and the figure looks farther away from that perspective.

It's not worth arguing about though we're just seeing two different things in the same video.

Come one, if you look closely it is definitely Dlanor's sword.

Fire theory : a lighting stroke on Rokkenjima, and since the island is completely recovered by a forest, the whole island started to burn, as well as the rose garden, the only safe place is either underground or in the ocean...and the underground cannot be the hidden passage between the mansions, because of smoke and asphyxia.

The place of the gold shall work...It is well isolated AND underwater I guess.

Ho also, the scene where something looks like someone shooting with a gun in the forest again and again...It might be Rosa at the end in EP2.
This scene with rosa really seems to say "the island is on fire". Even Rosa says that "THERE IS NO PLACE WE COULD BE SAVE ON THIS ISLAND, TO THE SEE, TO THE SEE"

[Renall]

Originally Posted by Oliver

Incidentally... This might hint at the multistage explosion I have suggested previously.

That is, the mansion is burned up and wrecked by a relatively regular fire (probably a small amount of gas canisters -- would be nice for insurance, methinks) which soon after causes the unexpected and unanticipated detonation of something else entirely that actually changes the landscape.

"By the way, Nanjo, be sure you warn Krauss not to ever try to set the house on fire for the insurance money because the foundation is made out of military-grade explosives."

"I'll pass that a- wait, what!?"

"Look, it was the 50s and that stuff was cheap! What am I, made out of money here?"

"Well, you do have the gold..."

"Which also explodes."

"Why is everything you own terrible and dangerous?"

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Laserworm

btw I love your sig Oliver that is so funny XD

Thank you. You're welcome to
http://i50.tinypic.com/augtuo.jpg and
http://i47.tinypic.com/152kn0n.jpg for future use (or misuse as the case may be).