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Checking my computer clock, today is Dec. 22, 2011.
On unrelated things... Finland impounds shipment of Patriot missiles, explosives in ship destined for Shanghai 上海行きの船から地対空ミサイル69基…独出航 We caught them! We caught them! We caught them red-handed! Hahaha! The Chinese can't do anything except smuggle and steal! We have the proof! Missiles listed as "fireworks" on ship manifest Quote:
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Though it looks like a CIA plot to me.
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2011-12-22, 07:26 | Link #18583 | |
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2011-12-22, 07:42 | Link #18584 | ||
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2011-12-22, 08:10 | Link #18585 | |
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2011-12-22, 08:56 | Link #18587 | |||
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2011-12-22, 09:27 | Link #18589 |
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What possible reason would the CIA have to do something like that? Most likely it's a poor choice in shipping methods for missiles to South Korea, with Chinese agents fraudulently diverting a shipment as the second most likely possibility.
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2011-12-22, 10:30 | Link #18590 | |
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Well, it seems that I am on a roll today.
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However, China bashing is certainly in fashion in certain circles, and all you need to do is to look back a pages or two in this thread. The extreme cases produce such tragic results. RIP. |
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2011-12-22, 12:37 | Link #18595 | ||||||
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This "Germany broke it, they should pay for it" bullsh*t is seriously getting on my nerves. The rules were clear, and Germany abided by it. I refuse to apologize for being successful here. The European debt mess was caused by the American housing and "subprime loan" bubble caused by the fed's completely irresponsible "provide liquidity for free" policy paired with the disastrous lack of regulation resulting in a total meltdown of the financial sector world wide. It forced several European countries to "nationalize" otherwise bankrupt banks, and THIS is what sent the cart into the ditch. Ireland was completely peachy before the crap hit the fan. Spain was fine before the crap hit the fan. And now they have critical debt levels because of it. If you have to blame Germany to be happy, do it for our reluctance to allow the easy US way out: Printing money. Oh, excuse me, that's called "quantitative easing". Guess what, we STILL think that money should be EARNED before it's spent, at least a little bit. If we had said "screw it, let the ECB buy government bonds ad infinitum" (illegal! but advocated by 90% of the same "experts" who caused the financial meltdown in the first place), we possibly wouldn't have that much problems now. But then, economy would be meaningless, and it would result in even bigger problems down the road. Want to see which? Let's see how the US is dealing with their 1-trillion-per-year deficit. It's the same. Quote:
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Just for your information: In Germany, the catholic south is the economically strong part. The protestant northeast is economically weaker. Where does this leave your funny ideas? No. Effectively it's going to be a form of transfer payments. Like we already have, for agricultural subsidies from the EU, etc. Quote:
Of course not. The German budget will have stronger and weaker contributors. As I said, "transfer payments" - it's called "Länderfinanzausgleich" in Germany. Richer states pay money to the poorer ones. Eventually it will be like that for Europe, too. Multiple currencies are bad because of the overhead they incur. It would be STUPID to go for this solution. Better to address the underlying problem. |
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2011-12-22, 13:01 | Link #18596 | |
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The share of German exports going into the Euro zone in Germany's total exports has even been decreasing since the implementation of the Euro. It did not profit more than others. It is not Germany's fault that no one wants to lend Greece and the other southern countries any more money, but we are dragged down by it nonetheless. Germany is in no way more obligated to pay Greece's bills than say, the UK, the US or China. Be happy that it has given in to France's and the PIIGS's pressure to do so and that it can simply be overruled in the ECB. |
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2011-12-22, 13:41 | Link #18597 | |
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Hm, no. Almost nobody did, Germany included.
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2011-12-22, 14:13 | Link #18598 | |
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Though you are correct: no one points a gun at Merkel, forcing her to sign the treaties. But the ECB measures (just a few days ago they pumped another 500 billion Euro into the market) can't be stopped by Germany, as it doesn't have any veto. |
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2011-12-22, 14:25 | Link #18599 | |
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Indeed. Still, the visual effects will be rather weak.
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