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Solkiskey · 2012-08-27, 19:21

If there's a patch, I want them to fix Battler.

GoldenLand · 2012-08-27, 22:48

Speaking of Battler, I think it's a real waste that Endless Sorcerer Battler isn't playable. Instead the game has Black Battler, and although I think he's a great idea, it's unfortunate that his existence makes it less likely for Sorcerer Battler to be included.

Kinzo's another character who really ought to be in the game. Man could turn into a dragon for a special move. Who could argue with that?

kevan3 · 2012-08-27, 23:25

So Clair, Gaap, Sorcerer Battler, and Kinzo. They do sound nice.

This game's AI on hard is absolutely stupid.

Captain Bluebeard · 2012-08-28, 08:14

Come to think of it, Kinzo would have the best Meta Declarations.
`Aaaawwww!!!! BEATORIIICHEEEEE!!!` or `DESIRE~` something. Plus he would have a really kickass moveset.

Patchwork Chimera · 2012-08-28, 12:46

Fwahahaha! Kinzo screamin' Yami wo kirisaku, oh DESIRE! in his special move and summoning furniture left and right. Oh, and he'll have a Battler-like molestation move, that's a must. I wouldn't put it past grand- *is shot*
Maybe Young!Kinzo? Being a soldier he could have some neat moves...
I would really hate to see Featherine in there. Her only move would be giving a 'LOSES' screen while she eats some cake and pets her cat.
Now, I don't know why but Amakuza going musou kyoku also sounds promising... He needs more screen time, the guy possibly killed Ange in EP4, so he deserves some credit.

Also, I Hate Black Boss Battler. I hate him. Really.

kevan3 · 2012-08-28, 16:39

Featherine could throw LOSES signs. Or summon them like Virgilia does her goats, make them rise out of the ground.

Wegenbarth · 2012-08-29, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Captain Bluebeard

Come to think of it, Kinzo would have the best Meta Declarations.
`Aaaawwww!!!! BEATORIIICHEEEEE!!!` or `DESIRE~` something. Plus he would have a really kickass moveset.

He had many epic moments to include which could be used.
If only Kinzo would come in a future update, he could use Gaaps power, go into dragon mode, jumping out of the window on a mad night, do HAPPYY HALOWEEEEEEN moves, charges up his desire ... aww I really hope they will add him one day.

I guess nearly every char would counter his Meta saying "YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD" and stuff. Poor Kinzo.

GabrieliosP · 2012-08-29, 11:10

Regarding meta declarations:

Meta Declaration: BEATORICHEEEE!!!
Meta Denial: Do you REALLY thought I was dead?
Meta Re-Declaration: I'M THE GREAT GOLDSMITH!
Meta Re-Denial: Mwhahahahahahahaha!
Final Meta Declaration: OH DESIRE~~~!

Ouverture · 2012-08-29, 14:18

I hope Alchemist will show a new OMK Cross for console at TGS12

cronnoponno · 2012-08-29, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solkiskey

If there's a patch, I want them to fix Battler.

Fix Battler as in how?

Solkiskey · 2012-08-29, 19:52

Nerf him. He seriously needs nerfs.

GabrieliosP · 2012-08-29, 20:01

His running speed. God, Battler runs faster than you can run away from him. It's glorious when playing as him, but dreadful when playing AGAISNT him.

Captain Bluebeard · 2012-08-30, 07:02

Really? I'm always glad to play against Battler because Erika totally kicks his ass, plus he rarely guards.... I hadn't noticed.

Solkiskey · 2012-08-30, 10:03

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Originally Posted by GabrieliosP

His running speed. God, Battler runs faster than you can run away from him. It's glorious when playing as him, but dreadful when playing AGAISNT him.

Say that to Kanon.

No, I mean stuff like his invincible special punch, his tie (best move in the game, seriously) and hi slide kick (3b). Even his 236 is too good.

GabrieliosP · 2012-08-30, 11:50

His tie? Oh, you mean j.C. BEST. AERIAL. ATTACK. no sarcasm included.

His long range is also troublesome, especially agaisnt short range characters or character with slow normals.

Speaking about Ougon... how can Lambdadelta, while guarding, interrupt my attacks and catch me with her grab? That witch keeps spamming this so much I actually HATE going agaisnt her.

kevan3 · 2012-08-30, 12:06

The AI of some of these characters seriously needs to be changed.

Ouverture · 2012-08-30, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabrieliosP

His tie? Oh, you mean j.C. BEST. AERIAL. ATTACK. no sarcasm included.

His long range is also troublesome, especially agaisnt short range characters or character with slow normals.

Speaking about Ougon... how can Lambdadelta, while guarding, interrupt my attacks and catch me with her grab? That witch keeps spamming this so much I actually HATE going agaisnt her.

It's normal, because the cpu does it "frame perfect"

Joeyscraggy · 2012-08-30, 17:54

the worst thing about cpu!lambda is that she can lock you into grab-6C-6C-grab-6C for max 3 times. It's not that troublesome at the beginning of the fight, but when you're down on HP...

GabrieliosP · 2012-08-30, 18:37

Then when you get knocked down thanks to her grab, she used Konpeito and starts spamming 236X.

You can't get close to her and even if you do she'll just spam her grab anyways.

Lambda has one of the most annoying AIs, but at least it is better than Kanon or Battler's who just jump around. As long as they don't tag and you're skilled enough, it is entirely possible to win agaisnt Battler & Kanon spamming EVA's 214C.

Solkiskey · 2012-08-31, 09:13

I don't have much trouble against Lambda. I don't find any of her stuff remotely threatening.

2012-08-28, 08:14	Link #4064
Captain Bluebeard Detective, Witch, Pirate. Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ruins of the Golden Land	Come to think of it, Kinzo would have the best Meta Declarations. `Aaaawwww!!!! BEATORIIICHEEEEE!!!` or `DESIRE~` something. Plus he would have a really kickass moveset. __________________ It's tough to be blue...

2012-08-28, 12:46	Link #4065
Patchwork Chimera Human Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Crime Scene	Fwahahaha! Kinzo screamin' Yami wo kirisaku, oh DESIRE! in his special move and summoning furniture left and right. Oh, and he'll have a Battler-like molestation move, that's a must. I wouldn't put it past grand- is shot Maybe Young!Kinzo? Being a soldier he could have some neat moves... I would really hate to see Featherine in there. Her only move would be giving a 'LOSES' screen while she eats some cake and pets her cat. Now, I don't know why but Amakuza going musou kyoku also sounds promising... He needs more screen time, the guy possibly killed Ange in EP4, so he deserves some credit. Also, I Hate Black Boss Battler. I hate him. Really. __________________ ~º~º~º~ Sin importar cuanto busques la respuesta, ésta te aludirá con certeza hasta que estés listo para escucharla.

2012-08-29, 11:10	Link #4068
GabrieliosP 黄金の魔女 Golden Witch Join Date: May 2012 Location: Natal-RN, Brazil Age: 28	Regarding meta declarations: Meta Declaration: BEATORICHEEEE!!! Meta Denial: Do you REALLY thought I was dead? Meta Re-Declaration: I'M THE GREAT GOLDSMITH! Meta Re-Denial: Mwhahahahahahahaha! Final Meta Declaration: OH DESIRE~~~! __________________ "Revival of the Golden Witch" and "Dolly's Dreaming Awakening -Cradle Song-" Development Blog "Ougon Musou Kyoku" PT-BR Wiki

2012-08-29, 20:01	Link #4072
GabrieliosP 黄金の魔女 Golden Witch Join Date: May 2012 Location: Natal-RN, Brazil Age: 28	His running speed. God, Battler runs faster than you can run away from him. It's glorious when playing as him, but dreadful when playing AGAISNT him. __________________ "Revival of the Golden Witch" and "Dolly's Dreaming Awakening -Cradle Song-" Development Blog "Ougon Musou Kyoku" PT-BR Wiki

2012-08-30, 07:02	Link #4073
Captain Bluebeard Detective, Witch, Pirate. Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ruins of the Golden Land	Really? I'm always glad to play against Battler because Erika totally kicks his ass, plus he rarely guards.... I hadn't noticed. __________________ It's tough to be blue...

2012-08-27, 19:21	Link #4061
Solkiskey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada, Quebec Age: 30	If there's a patch, I want them to fix Battler.

2012-08-27, 22:48	Link #4062
GoldenLand Eaten by goats Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Rokkenjima	Speaking of Battler, I think it's a real waste that Endless Sorcerer Battler isn't playable. Instead the game has Black Battler, and although I think he's a great idea, it's unfortunate that his existence makes it less likely for Sorcerer Battler to be included. Kinzo's another character who really ought to be in the game. Man could turn into a dragon for a special move. Who could argue with that?

2012-08-27, 23:25	Link #4063
kevan3 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Abyss, Texas.	So Clair, Gaap, Sorcerer Battler, and Kinzo. They do sound nice. This game's AI on hard is absolutely stupid.

2012-08-28, 16:39	Link #4066
kevan3 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Abyss, Texas.	Featherine could throw LOSES signs. Or summon them like Virgilia does her goats, make them rise out of the ground.

2012-08-29, 14:18	Link #4069
Ouverture Golden Fighter Join Date: Dec 2011	I hope Alchemist will show a new OMK Cross for console at TGS12

2012-08-29, 19:52	Link #4071
Solkiskey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada, Quebec Age: 30	Nerf him. He seriously needs nerfs.

2012-08-30, 11:50	Link #4075
GabrieliosP 黄金の魔女 Golden Witch Join Date: May 2012 Location: Natal-RN, Brazil Age: 28	His tie? Oh, you mean j.C. BEST. AERIAL. ATTACK. no sarcasm included. His long range is also troublesome, especially agaisnt short range characters or character with slow normals. Speaking about Ougon... how can Lambdadelta, while guarding, interrupt my attacks and catch me with her grab? That witch keeps spamming this so much I actually HATE going agaisnt her. __________________ "Revival of the Golden Witch" and "Dolly's Dreaming Awakening -Cradle Song-" Development Blog "Ougon Musou Kyoku" PT-BR Wiki

2012-08-30, 12:06	Link #4076
kevan3 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Abyss, Texas.	The AI of some of these characters seriously needs to be changed.

2012-08-30, 17:54	Link #4078
Joeyscraggy Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	the worst thing about cpu!lambda is that she can lock you into grab-6C-6C-grab-6C for max 3 times. It's not that troublesome at the beginning of the fight, but when you're down on HP...

2012-08-30, 18:37	Link #4079
GabrieliosP 黄金の魔女 Golden Witch Join Date: May 2012 Location: Natal-RN, Brazil Age: 28	Then when you get knocked down thanks to her grab, she used Konpeito and starts spamming 236X. You can't get close to her and even if you do she'll just spam her grab anyways. Lambda has one of the most annoying AIs, but at least it is better than Kanon or Battler's who just jump around. As long as they don't tag and you're skilled enough, it is entirely possible to win agaisnt Battler & Kanon spamming EVA's 214C. __________________ "Revival of the Golden Witch" and "Dolly's Dreaming Awakening -Cradle Song-" Development Blog "Ougon Musou Kyoku" PT-BR Wiki

2012-08-31, 09:13	Link #4080
Solkiskey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada, Quebec Age: 30	I don't have much trouble against Lambda. I don't find any of her stuff remotely threatening.