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Archon_Wing · 2017-05-25, 00:37

I guess I am biased, but I've never seen how more racism will solve racism. I am insulted for it to be suggested that I need my hand held by society and I know many others like this.

I remember there was a while where I tried to be extra "considerate" towards LBGT people when we suddenly came to the conclusion hat it was patronizing as fuck and we can't interact each other like it was a padded room.

To me, it seems like a divide and conquer strategy. You throw scraps out and let groups fight over them. Some groups are more oppressed than others so they get more benefit. It gives them an excuse to hate each other, while keeping them away from the real enemy.

You can see it with race, which is why no doubt that there's a lot of racism between different groups as a result too. And it also attempts to detract from the issue of class which is a far, far bigger deal.

The obsession over race is laughable in the US. And we always have the excuse of our history. Yea, because there was never ever racial violence over in Europe. Especially not for centuries. Get over yourselves.

Key Board · 2017-05-25, 00:52

acknowledging that [insert] are at disadvantage at certain things is not racism

but you're right in that those in power are trying to take attention away from rich people and corporate capitalism
people are literally going to die because of Trump healthcare policies, but they'll manage to spin and put the blame on other things
(and I maintain that this is exactly the reason why Trump was elected)

I voted for Sander in the primaries. I think he's right that dems should not just focus on identity politics (and while still being corporate democrats)

Archon_Wing · 2017-05-25, 00:58

It's not but it's the approach, and especially uneven approach towards minorities that aren't as represented that I see as the problem; maybe because I may fall into that group or whatnot.

And what's more insulting is the lipservice from both parties where they have constantly waged a battle against poor people essentially with things like the War on Drugs that has led to us being one of the biggest incarceration happy countries in the world. Amongst other examples.

This just seems to be what we are going back into.

#nolivesmatter

Sheba · 2017-05-25, 01:53

@KeyBoard

Your line of reasoning is exactly WHY Trump won. You lost the game you instant you decide there is a hierarchy between races and religions.

You have totally misunderstood why Anon is so against your line, NOT ALL Anons adhere to /pol/'s toxic bullshit. People should be judged on the merits of what they said and what they do, no what race, religion and sexuality they are. The instant you say, "Hi, I am *race/religion/sexuality*, and here is my story/argument" you leave yourself open to people excluding you because they can disregard you according to the little boxes you checked or not.

Also, the mere fact that you are suggesting that white homeless people are better off than others is just as heinous. And dont fucking tell me they are privileged, etc... That we cant be racist against them. My childhood friend was the target of constant daily harassment from the thugs in the neighborhood BECAUSE he is fully ethnic French (he can trace his ancestry all the way to before World War I). The hypocritical assholes constantly brought up the colonization to justify how their harassment is righteous.

Go read what you have said, you said you think that identity politics is wrong, yet many of your previous posts ARE poisoned by identity politics.

Key Board · 2017-05-25, 09:11

But It's not me that decides the hierarchy

It's society. I am merely pointing it out.

I had an easier time getting a job when I changed my name to something more western.
I don't know which country you reside in, but it seem that is proof why discrimination is real, and why it's an issue that still needs to be addressed.
different countries have different racial dynamics, and as far the US goes, the advantage is clearly leaning towards a certain side.

But as Sanders said, the focus on just this, and also being corporate democrats is what let people down.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

It's not but it's the approach, and especially uneven approach towards minorities that aren't as represented that I see as the problem; maybe because I may fall into that group or whatnot.

And what's more insulting is the lipservice from both parties where they have constantly waged a battle against poor people essentially with things like the War on Drugs that has led to us being one of the biggest incarceration happy countries in the world. Amongst other examples.

This just seems to be what we are going back into.

#nolivesmatter

I'm going to use a disabled parking space allegory.

1) you have people that claim that not only a disabled person is getting their own space. They are also getting a new sports car and driver along with the deal
2) you have people that say, that no, it's barely a parking space and it even bleeds into the pavement. This is not enough.

Which is more truthful? I'm inclined to say 2) and but those at the very top are trying to propagate 1) as being true.

But as you said, I think those at the top have grown skillful in manipulating sentiments. And I think it's working to a degree.
How many "millennials are lazy and entitled snowflakes" headlines have we had in the recent years?

Eisdrache · 2017-05-25, 16:27

The government released their first full budget and it's not just bad, it's beyond stupid. Not even frivolity would defend it and he defends everything even remotely republican. Apparently they made a slight math error too, predicting 2 trillion dollars in extra federal revenue growth over the next 10 years (used for Trump's tax cut) but then counts them again to offset the budget deficit.

TLDR; There are 2 trillion dollars too much in the budget.

And there's also the issue that the budget literally takes the hatchet to social security programs. Just to name a few examples, 72 billion from disability insurance, 610 billion from medicaid and 880 billion that are already in the healthcare plan.

Blueknight78 · 2017-05-25, 17:46

trump showing how "gentleman" he is with the premier of montenegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1pJKd3Ya8

more and more hard become to believe why peoples did so crazy thing in put this fail man in a so important place.

without count the fact which now he in his crazyness, now is trying to steal money from many security programs to have his damn wall build just make things worst.

James Rye · 2017-05-25, 18:18

Well, that was one terrible meeting in Europe. Quite a difference to how he acted and behaved in Saudi Arabia or Israel. Macho-hand-holding-contest, shoving the Montenegro president aside to be first in line, no pledge to Art.5 to stand by Nato allies. Oh boy, the next four years are going to be soooo fun.

**monir** · 2017-05-25, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1pJKd3Ya8

hahahahaha...

It's called, "America first." Get out of my way. I am important.

I'm also guessing Montenegro doesn't pay his fair share either. GO back in line, SOCIALIST.

I've been missing his tweet a lot so thank you for posting this. He's a god send. He truly is.

Blueknight78 · 2017-05-25, 19:04

the best part is his face after he pushes the guy, the expression of "i'm the boss here" which he made make everything look ever more comic, he is really something, not good and really crap but still "fun", trump could perfet fith in a parody comedy movie like scare movies or top secret or others crazy comedy movies, he is perfect for that job.

KiraYamatoFan · 2017-05-25, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

trump showing how "gentleman" he is with the premier of montenegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1pJKd3Ya8

more and more hard become to believe why peoples did so crazy thing in put this fail man in a so important place.

without count the fact which now he in his crazyness, now is trying to steal money from many security programs to have his damn wall build just make things worst.

What a c***!

No sense of decorum whatsoever, he really embodies the expression 'thick as pig shit'. Now that I think about it, it would have been fun if the Montenegro PM decked that orange baboon. Somebody really needs to shove that baby in the corner soon.

Blueknight78 · 2017-05-25, 20:09

i could be wrong but the woman at his side saw everything and tried to say something to him, then looked like told her to "shut-up" after that.

**monir** · 2017-05-25, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

trump showing how "gentleman" he is with the premier of montenegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1pJKd3Ya8

There is now a move-bitch-get-out-the-way rendition of this. Thank you internet.

Once again, Blueknight, thanks for making my day.

And thank you too, Donald!

Galaxian · 2017-05-26, 12:39

A glimpse into the future about a year from now...

The ending is the best part.

MCAL · 2017-05-26, 13:35

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...34190078906370

Trump tweets biased poll that doesn't even make him look good in the first place.

Toukairin · 2017-05-26, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCAL

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...34190078906370

Trump tweets biased poll that doesn't even make him look good in the first place.

There's no end to the man's stupidity, lol.

Dauerlutscher · 2017-05-26, 17:28

Bannon biggest nightmare
http://i.imgur.com/9zUV3GX.gifv

Trump and the Pope.
https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=59E9761C
https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...48&oe=59AB8A31

NATO members reactions to Trumps nonsense.
https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/stat...54947751927808

Trump and Macron
http://i.imgur.com/lTikP1i.jpg

'The Germans are bad, really bad,' Donald Trump tells EU officials

Quote:

“The Germans are bad, really bad,” Mr Trump said, according to Spiegel magazine.“Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US. It’s terrible. We’ll put a stop to that.”

The remarks took place during a meeting with Jean-Claude Juncker, the European Commission president, and Donald Tusk, the head of the European Council, on Thursday.

Donald Trump drives an Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren

A Danger to the World - It's Time to Get Rid of Donald Trump

Quote:

Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States. He does not possess the requisite intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues that he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees.

He is a man free of morals. As has been demonstrated hundreds of times, he is a liar, a racist and a cheat. I feel ashamed to use these words, as sharp and loud as they are. But if they apply to anyone, they apply to Trump. And one of the media's tasks is to continue telling things as they are: Trump has to be removed from the White House. Quickly. He is a danger to the world.

Trump is a miserable politician. He fired the FBI director simply because he could. James Comey had gotten under his skin with his investigation into Trump's confidants. Comey had also refused to swear loyalty and fealty to Trump and to abandon the investigation. He had to go.

Serovectra · 2017-05-26, 18:22

They aren't contributing enough, so he's right about that.

Blueknight78 · 2017-05-26, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serovectra

They aren't contributing enough, so he's right about that.

you can provide the numbers please????

.

man the more see about him the more i think which north korean ditactor start to look less "unique" by being a crazy doushbag, when we have in the other side his USA counterpart trump.

another thing why USA keeping using this "fail system" of elections, where a guy which lost in a shamefull way in number of votes still won "because he get more small provinces"(and even that provinces many he not won by having all votes but by having majority and this giving him "all votes" even peoples wchih didn't vote on him, why usa don't use a proper direct votes election like most of the democracy countries???

Serovectra · 2017-05-26, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

you can provide the numbers please????

.

man the more see about him the more i think which north korean ditactor start to look less "unique" by being a crazy doushbag, when we have in the other side his USA counterpart trump

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DArytEZXoAAJ9HQ.jpg:large

https://admin.govexec.com/media/gbc/...atopercgdp.png

2017-05-25, 00:52	Link #362
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	acknowledging that [insert] are at disadvantage at certain things is not racism but you're right in that those in power are trying to take attention away from rich people and corporate capitalism people are literally going to die because of Trump healthcare policies, but they'll manage to spin and put the blame on other things (and I maintain that this is exactly the reason why Trump was elected) I voted for Sander in the primaries. I think he's right that dems should not just focus on identity politics (and while still being corporate democrats) __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell Last edited by Key Board; 2017-05-25 at 01:03.

2017-05-25, 01:53	Link #364
Sheba RUN, YOU FOOLS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	@KeyBoard Your line of reasoning is exactly WHY Trump won. You lost the game you instant you decide there is a hierarchy between races and religions. You have totally misunderstood why Anon is so against your line, NOT ALL Anons adhere to /pol/'s toxic bullshit. People should be judged on the merits of what they said and what they do, no what race, religion and sexuality they are. The instant you say, "Hi, I am race/religion/sexuality, and here is my story/argument" you leave yourself open to people excluding you because they can disregard you according to the little boxes you checked or not. Also, the mere fact that you are suggesting that white homeless people are better off than others is just as heinous. And dont fucking tell me they are privileged, etc... That we cant be racist against them. My childhood friend was the target of constant daily harassment from the thugs in the neighborhood BECAUSE he is fully ethnic French (he can trace his ancestry all the way to before World War I). The hypocritical assholes constantly brought up the colonization to justify how their harassment is righteous. Go read what you have said, you said you think that identity politics is wrong, yet many of your previous posts ARE poisoned by identity politics. __________________

2017-05-25, 17:46	Link #367
Blueknight78 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	trump showing how "gentleman" he is with the premier of montenegro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1pJKd3Ya8 <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/Gx1pJKd3Ya8">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> more and more hard become to believe why peoples did so crazy thing in put this fail man in a so important place. without count the fact which now he in his crazyness, now is trying to steal money from many security programs to have his damn wall build just make things worst. __________________

2017-05-25, 18:18	Link #368
James Rye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Germany	Well, that was one terrible meeting in Europe. Quite a difference to how he acted and behaved in Saudi Arabia or Israel. Macho-hand-holding-contest, shoving the Montenegro president aside to be first in line, no pledge to Art.5 to stand by Nato allies. Oh boy, the next four years are going to be soooo fun. __________________

2017-05-25, 19:04	Link #370
Blueknight78 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	the best part is his face after he pushes the guy, the expression of "i'm the boss here" which he made make everything look ever more comic, he is really something, not good and really crap but still "fun", trump could perfet fith in a parody comedy movie like scare movies or top secret or others crazy comedy movies, he is perfect for that job. __________________

2017-05-25, 16:27	Link #366
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	The government released their first full budget and it's not just bad, it's beyond stupid. Not even frivolity would defend it and he defends everything even remotely republican. Apparently they made a slight math error too, predicting 2 trillion dollars in extra federal revenue growth over the next 10 years (used for Trump's tax cut) but then counts them again to offset the budget deficit. TLDR; There are 2 trillion dollars too much in the budget. And there's also the issue that the budget literally takes the hatchet to social security programs. Just to name a few examples, 72 billion from disability insurance, 610 billion from medicaid and 880 billion that are already in the healthcare plan.

2017-05-25, 20:09	Link #372
Blueknight78 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	i could be wrong but the woman at his side saw everything and tried to say something to him, then looked like told her to "shut-up" after that. __________________

2017-05-26, 12:39	Link #374
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	A glimpse into the future about a year from now... <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/k8vTbnqqG1I">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> The ending is the best part.

2017-05-26, 13:35	Link #375
MCAL Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012	https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...34190078906370 Trump tweets biased poll that doesn't even make him look good in the first place.

2017-05-26, 18:22	Link #378
Serovectra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013	They aren't contributing enough, so he's right about that.