2020-10-29, 04:01 | Link #63 | |
is this so?
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she even has the consent of the dad of one of the lolis. He let his daughter play with bears, because he trust Yuna.
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2020-10-29, 05:29 | Link #64 |
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I might be reading too much into the story, but it's somehow heartbreaking to see the contrast between Yuna's family experiences and seeing a family face a tough situation as the mother falls into a crippling illness. It sucks that she ended up with such a bleak outlook on life, but now Yuna has a lot of chances to make up for it, starting with Fina who seems to have become someone important to her.
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2020-10-29, 11:31 | Link #65 |
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It's little wonder it's heartbreaking. You have two small children helplessly watching their beloved parent wasting away before their eyes, especially the youngest, the girl can't be more than 10 at the most. It looks like the Mother is their only remaining family left, the "Uncle" seeming to be a trusted family friend.
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2020-10-30, 23:29 | Link #66 | |
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2020-11-04, 19:50 | Link #69 |
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Nobody ever got the idea of transporting chickens and raising them rather than transporting eggs from a distant place to another? Really?
The whole episode reminded me of Bookworm, what with putting orphans to work.
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2020-11-04, 20:21 | Link #70 | |
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However, all of these reasons probably don't apply as the author probably didn't even take them into consideration and is just using the chickens as a means to help Yuna help the orphanage. |
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2020-11-05, 04:54 | Link #71 |
is this so?
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while I agree that the food Yuna will buy is only temporary relief to the orphans.. temporary help is better than no help at all!! that woman selling barbecue... selfish fatass. Yuna PAID money for the barbecue, so Yuna can decide who to give them to! Anyone who says not to give food to hungry children ticks me off, even in fiction I get enraged. of course, the root of the problem has to be found and eliminated, which is the noble emebezzling funds. That punch by Cliff is satisfying. I hope that corrupt man ends up behind bars. and Yuna's reward for her good deeds is sleep on the lap of Fina. Well deserved. looking forward to next week.
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2020-11-05, 07:47 | Link #72 | |
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2020-11-05, 09:53 | Link #73 | |
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On a different note, I've noticed a very strong favor in Japanese media for providing for the less fortunate by providing them with work. Here, Yuna provides for the orphans by making them work as chicken farmers. In Ascendance of a Bookworm, Main provided for the church's orphans in exchange for having them help her business. In the light novels of Make My Abilities Average, Mile helps a bunch of street urchins who're down on their luck by setting up jobs for them helping to fill the baths at the inn where she and her party were staying. In Smartphone, Touuya's solution to finding an orphan girl picking pockets on the street was to make her his maid. Heck, in Tales of Symphonia, one side story has Zellos get a poor boy and his mother off the street by giving the mother a job at his mansion. I'm not really saying it's a bad thing when it can be done, finding actual work that one can do to earn their food and shelter is likely to be more satisfying than just being provided for, and if they have to leave that work the experience can help them find other work rather than returning to dependence. It's just kind of odd. |
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2020-11-05, 10:09 | Link #74 | |
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about the whole situation, well they cut some stuffs it was supposed to be a little longer something between 1 and half episodes or 2 episodes about the "fat scum destiny: Spoiler for comparation with manga:
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2020-11-05, 15:46 | Link #75 | |
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if this was real life, and a food seller told me not to give food to someone hungry.. that would be the last day I'm buying anything from them.
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2020-11-05, 22:39 | Link #76 |
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We have to add some context here: Yuna has always been the "giver" in the relationship, dropping 1 million to her parents just so they can have their vacation, and it's implied that she doesn't get anything in return, whether in cash or in kind(ness). She doesn't want to make the same mistake of spoonfeeding other people through charity.
I've also seen how people nowadays respond to kindness: even young boys and girls know how to exploit kind people without giving back even a simple show of gratitude, let alone beggars in the streets. There's a reason why some countries have anti-mendicancy laws after all.
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2020-11-06, 02:09 | Link #77 | |
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this is my only reply to you. Since I won't see you again. this issue is indeed deep, and you may sound wise saying people who only receive are just exploiting the giver. But if there's a hungry child or bent up old man in front of me asking food, it is non debatable, I will give if I have some food or alms to give. also the orphans in the anime are not lazy people, they choose to work rather than just keep receiving. bye.
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2020-11-06, 10:17 | Link #78 |
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It's just a complicated issue. I'm reminded of a line from Gate, where Itami warned the medical officer who was considering bringing a prostitute to the town to get her out of that life that if she couldn't follow through it could sometimes be better to do nothing. It's hard to say, but it is actually possible sometimes for a one-time charity to make things worse. That doesn't mean you should stop giving, definitely not. But awareness is necessary, not only of the situation and needs but also of one's own motivations, whether one's really looking to help those in need or just feed their own ego. It's complicated, complicated enough that I can't necessarily say the shopkeeper was right or wrong about it actually being harmful to the children to give them a small amount a single time without the ability and commitment to follow through (ignorant to the fact that Yuna had both in spades). This's part of why some would recommend giving through charities or at facilities meant to provide shelter, food and any other necessities over giving a little cash to people on the street. The people there are fully committed to follow through with everyone they can. Again, I'm not saying don't do it, only that I can't entirely condemn those that raise concerns. Of course, this's all a moot point since Yuna does indeed have both the capacity and the commitment to make sure that things change.
And as for Yuna's giving nature, that too is a two-sided thing. A person who's always ready to give without any concern for reciprocation or gratitude can be a generous, kind person, or a weak-willed doormat who's easily exploited. There's a fairly narrow line between Ebenezer Scrooge on Christmas morning and Ebenezer Blackadder on Christmas Eve. But I'm not really concerned when it comes to Yuna. I'm pretty sure she's much more the former than the latter. She seems plenty shrewd enough to keep from being exploited, and more than successful enough and determined enough that when she chooses to help someone I know she'll be able to make things work out for the better for everyone involved. |
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