Zero no Tsukaima (third season) - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll

[Bennyswan]

lol really good episode to me 9/10

[CapoExecutor]

I don't know if the artists made Tiffania's bust ridiculously big. The size of those knockers almost remind me of the bust sizes of the female characters from the anime Jungle de Ikou for some reason.

[Bennyswan]

^ lol yeah Tiffania's are REALLLYY big :|

[HayashiTakara]

Tiffania... god damn! I haven't seen boobs that big outside of a hentai, lol.

9/10 great episode.

[Rising Dragon]

This episode was fine; a lot of your people's problems with it were unfounded. The censor was unusual, but I didn't think too much of it. The animation seemed fine, the breast jokes weren't in excess, and it did help to build Louise's character, so that wasn't a loss. Seriously, you people see a pair of breasts bigger than Louise's and think the show's gone to hell. >_> Louise and Siesta's expressions upon finally meeting Tiffania were priceless. Anyways, I'm giving this episode a 10, it deserves it in my opinion.

[Sorrow-K]

BOOBS

Well, just about everyone else in this thread has said it.

Tifannia's a stupid character, but, for the most part, I didn't mind this episode, even with the somewhat hackneyed plot. I enjoyed the Saito and Louise interactions (she was a little less bitchy than usual this ep) and Louise's rant about Tifannia's boobs was Kugimiya close to her best. It's only early days, but so far I'm certainly enjoying this more than the last season.

[Fnights]

3 for the censorship (i really hate censor in anime/manga), and 7 for the rest.

[seiji_kun]

A predictable episode imo, the only thing that I didn't expected was Siesta to show up. Was hoping that they would do the summoning asap so it could lead to more action scenes for Saito in which he can kick ass. Louise & Siesta's reaction at Tiffany's breasts was absolutely priceless.

Can't wait to see him get his title and return to the academy to see everyones reaction, F.e. Guice & Louise oldest sister. Wonder how this is going to effect Louise to, will she show him some more respect or will he just receive the normal abuse.

[CapoExecutor]

That statue that Joseph was holding while talking to Sheffield, who was that suppose to be?

[HayashiTakara]

Thats a statue of Sheffield... remember the last episode when he was rubbing the boobs of the statue and she was blushing? and in this episode her voice was shown resonating from the statue.

[CapoExecutor]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Thats a statue of Sheffield... remember the last episode when he was rubbing the boobs of the statue and she was blushing? and in this episode her voice was shown resonating from the statue.

Wow, talk about indirect molestation.

Now what would happen if someone actually broke the statue?

[Sinestra]

Another predictable episode just episode 1. Enter a new big boob girl and Seista acting like shes hard up for a date and you have episode 2. The crappy thing is the one thing that kept me really interested was about the Runes on Saito's hand but of course in only 2 episodes he got it back so hes back to being Louise's puppy slave. Louise irritated the living hell out of me this episode. Her antics were amusing in the first season a little in the second season but its just old now i dont see her character really developing well at all. Granted she has become more open with her feelings with Saito but not very much i just dont see any real character growth something that should be obvious by now with this being the third season.

I still don't like the animation but I guess i will have to live with it. Whats funny is they found the elf and that was it the episode started focusing on Louise redoing their contact. Now the only interesting part is about this new bad guy and why he needs the so chess pieces for his master plan. He also seems to be a bit of pervert after that whole rubbing the statue things.

All i can hope for is that things get better over time. I hope they bring Tabitha back into the main cast soon she is my favorite character and seems to have quite a bit of screen time in the OP. The crappy thing is i cant drop the series since I have seen both seasons so i have to finish it out.

7/10 me being nice.

[Solafighter]

Spoiler for episode 2:

Mh, so all back to normal between Saito and Louise.

[AquaMethod]

I still miss the fun of the academy from the first season, but...at least Louise and Saito are progressing a little in their relationship. Sure, they still fight, but Saito seems to have made up his mind about loving her. Certainly further than Yuji gets in SnS, except perhaps at the very end.

And I liked non-desperate Siesta better. Like everyone else. :l

Originally Posted by Deathscyther

Well, for Darknemo...I wrote down my list with complaints, but the good things of this episode/season up to now as well.

Spoiler for only watch if you've seen the episode. might contain spoilers.:

Complaints:
- Animation was bad sometimes
- Mistakes/plotholes. How did Saito recognize Tiffania and knew about her, although he even had trouble remembering who she was last episode for example. It felt kinda of weird to me.
- Although less than in season 2, there were still too many boob-jokes.
- They've still downgraded Siesta's character. I really dislike her in the anime.
- Saito learning swordsfighting now and getting better in only one night feels kinda out of place/weird.

Good things:
- Animation is quite good most of the times
- The plot moved forward by a lot. They covered more than I could have imagined in these first 2 episodes. Sometimes it was too fast and felt rushed/forced, but I prefer this over no plot at all.
- I like Louise's character in the anime. They haven't butchered her completely.
- Louise's/Saito's relationship seems to developping quite well in the anime.
- The voice acting is good

Spoiler:

Remember, Saito has trained with her before--he wanted to be able to fight without being threatened first. Which is why the training was just silly in the first place, especially since he got his rune back right away.

[gugumomu]

Originally Posted by AquaMethod

Spoiler:

Remember, Saito has trained with her before--he wanted to be able to fight without being threatened first. Which is why the training was just silly in the first place, especially since he got his rune back right away.

not really

Spoiler for scene is from novels:

after Saito loses his powers and is healed by Tiffania he remains in the forest, thinking that Loise wouldnt be interested in him without his Gandalf's powers. only Agnes finds him at first (shes on a mission given by the Queen to search for him) and trains him for almost a week or so, as Saito hopes he could be of some use to Louise if he trains hard. kind of the same as in anime, the reason he is training is to be able to protect Louise even without special powers, and so to have a reason to stay at her side. but as you also said (training was silly .... he got his rune back right away...), the whole scene didnt fit very well into episodes 2 story, and leaves me with the impression that it was only a failed attempt to bring a increased number of scenes from novels into the anime, and somehow fix the flow of the story after the mess of season's 2 ending

[f4bidnish40]

The same rushing plot from season 1, the same tsundere/boob fest from season 2.

BUST REVOLUTION and Tiffania's huge cleavage is also in the novels btw. As for now though, Tiffania seems to be the friendly kind who wouldn't use her boobs to her advantage; she seems to be the timid Mikuru Asahina type. And wtf, CENSORING NOW!? That minused some points. Hopefully the directors don't butcher up Tifa's chara 'cuz she's likable as of now.

Louise and Siesta when decided to team up against Tiffania was kind of funny. From novel perspective they actually become friends,

Spoiler for Novel:

(and insert a suicidal louise being saved by her and a yuri scene from volume 12)

Well, things should get interesting. Hopefully they don't need to use censor too often.

[Rising Dragon]

I find it hilarious that all of you are complaining about the censoring. First you were bitching about how there was too much fanservice, and now you're bitching about how the fanservice is limited through the use of censoring.

[AquaMethod]

Originally Posted by gugumomu

not really

Spoiler for scene is from novels:

after Saito loses his powers and is healed by Tiffania he remains in the forest, thinking that Loise wouldnt be interested in him without his Gandalf's powers. only Agnes finds him at first (shes on a mission given by the Queen to search for him) and trains him for almost a week or so, as Saito hopes he could be of some use to Louise if he trains hard. kind of the same as in anime, the reason he is training is to be able to protect Louise even without special powers, and so to have a reason to stay at her side. but as you also said (training was silly .... he got his rune back right away...), the whole scene didnt fit very well into episodes 2 story, and leaves me with the impression that it was only a failed attempt to bring a increased number of scenes from novels into the anime, and somehow fix the flow of the story after the mess of season's 2 ending

Spoiler:

Right, but I guess what I'm saying is that he's trained to swordfight without his powers before; they trained in season two. Though from that synopsis, it does sound like they were just trying to shoehorn the scene in.

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

I find it hilarious that all of you are complaining about the censoring. First you were bitching about how there was too much fanservice, and now you're bitching about how the fanservice is limited through the use of censoring.

It's one thing to censor, but another to do it so poorly--zooming the image and putting in clearly added-after-the-fact black smoke? I think that even those tired of fanservice would rather see Siesta's panties than that.

[Taiyakikung]

The scene that Louise is squeezing tiffania's breast is very cute.I love it.But in my opinion that scene should be censored.I don't want to see breast being squeezed but Louise's angry face while she's squeezing.

[Fnights]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

I find it hilarious that all of you are complaining about the censoring. First you were bitching about how there was too much fanservice, and now you're bitching about how the fanservice is limited through the use of censoring.

Never complain about fanservice. But removing fanservice from this anime (and only in this third season?) is pointless especially because some hilarious joke scenes are based entirely on it. Meh.

Oh, first dvd will be released in "september" (2008.9.25).