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Something reported in last night's late night news, but is now being reported in English.
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A senior JAL official said also that "the merits of belonging to Oneworld are small" in The Daily Yomiuri. The quote was not attributed to anyone specific, though, but suggests that JAL will leave the alliance if/when the deal is signed.
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2009-09-12, 15:54 | Link #3922 | |
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Oil for cash > Oil for Blood
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2009-09-12, 16:06 | Link #3923 |
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World's oldest person dies in California at 115
The Obama supporter had passed away very peacefully while sleeping. R.I.P. Nothing surprising if you considered the incident of Iraq. In Britain, only a single individual was killed over cash and oil whereas in Iraq, thousands were killed over oil and cash. Its not like the life of a British is superior than those who wore ragged clothes at all. Whether it be Great Britain, the United States, the Middle East or anywhere else, it appears that government bodies tend to value oil and the economy above all else. Its quite sad.. |
2009-09-12, 16:13 | Link #3924 | |
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2009-09-13, 01:13 | Link #3926 |
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What? That's not my point. My point is that they never keep their promises anyway. So it is kinda useless anyway.
Besides, they expect everyone to show them love, and they give us hatred in return. If I were the PM of Japan, I'd ask the US to equip Yokosuka with nuclear by now.
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2009-09-13, 08:23 | Link #3927 | |||
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Japan reluctant to accept proposal for U.S. to reduce role of nukes
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Honestly.. Just because Japan is protected by the U.S. nuclear umbrella does not necessarily mean that North Korea or a possible rogue state won't strike regardlessly and when it actually happens, will the United States exchange a Los Angeles for the sake of an ally who is already nuked? In fact, the action will merely be an exchange of Los Angeles to fire a nuke which is obviously not worth it as that most Americans will probably protest against such action in the first place. If the American government pushes the action forward, it will most likely receive low approval ratings and collapse soon afterwards. Realistically, the U.S. nuclear umbrella is actually useless. JAL in talks to strengthen ties with American Airlines Quote:
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2009-09-13, 12:34 | Link #3929 | |
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Retaliation need not be nuclear as well. Modern conventional weapons are pretty darn destructive and don't have any of those nasty long-term side effects like fallout. I also fail to see how Los Angeles figures into any of this. There certainly isn't any evidence that the DPRK could actually hit targets in the Western Hemisphere despite their recent missile tests. In the longer term there's perhaps a threat from sea-based missiles, but even that seems remote at the moment. Despite my general abhorrence of nuclear weaponry, I do believe that mutual assured destruction, as horrible as it sounds, proved an effective strategy for deterring attacks by the Soviet Union against the US. I also haven't seen a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. I suppose you could argue that the DPRK has little to lose, but what precisely would it have to gain by initiating a nuclear attack on a target like Tokyo, or even Seoul? Especially if its leaders think, probably rightly, that any such attack would inevitably mean the destruction of North Korea itself?
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2009-09-13, 14:06 | Link #3930 | ||
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The fact that North Korea is a third-world nation in which its civilians suffer famine and poverty generally indicates that most people would not support the actions of nuking these people when most likely, the brainwashed individuals are actually being deceived by their dictatorship regime. And nuking Pyongyang is generally the same thing as nuking all these people as opposed to nuking the source of the threat and thus, a nuclear deterrence is unnecessary. All the United States need are long-range missiles, as well as air raids. For that matter, how are those sort of retaliation considered as the nuclear umbrella as nukes are not involved? Quote:
More certainly, the North Korean leaders do not believe nuking any parts of Japan would lead to their own destruction as that it is common knowledge that the United States are only good at bluffs and will most likely do nothing when the time truly comes. The invasion of Iraq was a special exception as that the Bush oil company was on the verge of bankruptcy when the opportunity revealed itself whereas defending Japan from North Korea or any other rogue states will not gain oil or any type of benefits. It is all for goodwill and also to strengthen the meaning of an alliance, as well as the bilateral relationship itself. However, will the United States actually take action after Japan gets nuked by North Korea or any other rogue states remains questionable. The nuclear umbrella also comes with quite an expense, the sympathy budget which taxpayers have to dish out for the occupying American soldiers whose presence poses as a deterrence against possible invaders but of course, this is just in theory as that North Korea and other rogue states have no intentions to invade in the first place. If they truly seek to do so, the presence of American soldiers would deem to be ineffective at all, just take a look at the recent elections in Afghanistan. Knowing that American soldiers as well as allied troops were protecting the voters yet did the Talibans backed off? The Talibans don't even have nukes.. |
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2009-09-13, 15:42 | Link #3931 | ||
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Also, Japan is one of the US' largest trading partners. There is an incentive to make sure your trading partners aren't being attacked by a hostile power. It tends to not be good for your economy. Japan might not have oil, but that doesn't mean helping to defend Japan isn't in the interests of the US. even if the US didn't get involved directly, the US would most certainly give Japan a lot of military aid. (Note that this is also why it's unlikely China will come to North Korea's aid if North Korea attacks first. China's trade relations with Japan and the US are worth more than they could ever be with North Korea, even if North Korea somehow turned things around and began to develop their economy.) Quote:
Also your comparison to soldiers in Afganistan protecting civilians not deterring the Taliban there isn't the same thing at all. I shouldn't have to explain why a "we nuke you if you nuke our allies" policy is a bit different than troops on the ground conducting peacekeeping and COIN operations.
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Space Shuttle Discovery Lands in California
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2009-09-14, 08:58 | Link #3933 | |
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It seems that this Christmas, presents may be fewer and/or smaller than previous years'...
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2009-09-14, 11:29 | Link #3934 | |
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Why don't we turn these ships into floating farms, or install wave-motion cannons and ion thrusters for space journeys?
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Late Crocodile Hunter's Family Urges China Not to Eat Australia's Kangaroos
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2009-09-14, 17:51 | Link #3936 | |
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