2014-04-07, 19:25 | Link #203 | |
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From what I can understand, the MC broke into a secret facility as a child and ended up being chosen as a pilot by the powers-that-be without the facility owners finding out. This is why people were freaking out when the Earth Engine started moving when both the known pilots were elsewhere. I am curious about the fact that the promo art showed four pilots. I find it unlikely that there would be more than one Earth Engine in the show, as it seems the antagonists themselves can't afford more than one weapon either. So is there going to be multiple pilot seats, or are they going to go the musical chair route and just switch pilots periodically?
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2014-04-07, 19:33 | Link #204 | |
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So while Valvrave was wilder, it also was less mysterious. I'm generally fine with both "wild" and "mysterious", but I can see people liking one but not the other.
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2014-04-07, 19:48 | Link #206 | |
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They like mysterious shows where you uncover layer after layer of schemes/plots/secret truths. Sometimes they go a little overboard too. I didn't fully understand RahXephon until I saw the recap movie. Still one of my top 10 anime along with Darker than Black though. |
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2014-04-07, 20:25 | Link #208 |
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The combination sequence was fucking awesome, but I couldn't help but laugh nervously at how ridiculously easy it would be to kill everyone if someone fucked up.
Which, in all fairness, describes every space launch ever.
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2014-04-07, 21:03 | Link #209 | ||||
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I guess we process information differently, as you were able to follow and you're okay with finding out more as you go. I just need a more stable foundation on the first episode and then have further things revealed as the show goes on. I guess it's sort of like watching a premier and than watching the rest of the series just so you can understand the first episode. That's really not my kind of thing, as I'd rather they set up the premise in the first episode with everything clear, and then as the show goes on they reveal things that expand that world that's been set up and/or change the status quo that had been set up in the beginning. Maybe it's just a matter of preference. I didn't like Star Driver or Eureka 7 either, so maybe Bones' mecha series just don't work well with me I guess... Quote:
It wasn't until later in the series that things started to go crazy, but even then despite the twists, they still pretty much followed a linear storytelling pattern.
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2014-04-07, 22:16 | Link #210 |
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Well, I honestly thought Captain Earth was also a typical Mecha premier .
Daichi is a normal high school student who happens to find a Giant Robot and fights the "bad guys" to protect the world around him. You also have various characters, terminology, and potential sub-plots introduced that will likely be explored over the course of the series. If you don't mind me asking, is it just the non-linear storytelling, with the flashbacks, that's creating the disconnect with you?
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2014-04-07, 23:17 | Link #211 | |
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So in short, it's like GaoGaiGar. |
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2014-04-08, 02:17 | Link #213 |
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I think there is a fine line between introducing some mysteries to stimulate the viewer's curiosity and making an outright confusing premiere. Unfortunately, Bones often errs on the latter side. The combination of obscure lingo, a plethora of barely-introduced characters and mysterious organizations made the first episode a mess.
The fact that the alien faction look very human (especially the mechanics!) only added to the confusion. I have patience, so I will keep following the show, but I cannot fault those who decide to bail out.
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2014-04-08, 03:49 | Link #215 | |
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2014-04-08, 03:59 | Link #216 | |
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A lot of the characters and mysteries of the first episode aren't relevant, and a lot of people are too used to this idea that every anime pilot should introduce everything in the show right off the bat. The reason why we don't know the names of every person on the station is because most of them aren't important, and all of them are irrelevant at this present time. Just as well, half of the lingo is going to be flavor text more than it is relevant. This is a big reason why people seem to have this perception that Captain Earth is more confusing as a pilot than most anime. If I knew why the MC was pulled into this mysterious war between a mysteriously oversized space station that seems to have huge and invisible lateral thrusters and an equally mysterious lunar-based whatever, I would actually be forced to criticize this story for having too much exposition. Also, there would be a lot of us here complaining about Bones dropping infodumps in their pilot. The short version is: A lot of this 'confusing' stuff isn't relevant yet, and most of it will be explained in the second (at most, the third) episode. That's how fiction works. Hell, that's how well-written non-fiction works. A well written newspaper article uses this same principle of leading with a teaser, followed by answers to all your burning questions.
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2014-04-08, 04:06 | Link #217 |
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I don't see how Captain Earth's first episode was anymore confusing than, say, Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei's first episode. The amount of unexplained lingo in that show's episode far exceeded Captain Earth's (...how many "unexplained lingo" where there really?), and the flashback shown at the beginning isn't even coherent compared to the rest of the episode and its progression.
The only thing that I could legitimately consider confusing was the part with the "enemy" faction. At first glace they were communicating with other humans and that made it seem like they were part of the earth protection force. Then next thing we know they launch an attack on Earth. |
2014-04-08, 04:26 | Link #218 | |
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What baffled me the most was everything that happened after that. Especially the part with the MC going from meeting a mysterious loli in the military base to holding some sort of gun thing to being teleported into the robot base to being accepted as a pilot and launched into space. All interspersed with talk about "Avatars" and what the hell I know. It was confusing as hell, at least usually your typical mecha kid just happens to find the giant robot and pilots it in an emergency of his own initiative. I got the feeling that they rushed because they had to show at least SOME action in the first episode (namely, the launch sequence) or they would have had a premiere which was only setup and character establishing moments - thought that would have been much better imho, it doesn't sit well with the need to get viewers engaged asap. I hope it's just that and the next episodes will pick up the story and give us some more clarity. On another note, I didn't even watch Mahouka and from what I've read I don't think I'd especially like it either, so I kind of agree with you there.
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2014-04-08, 05:00 | Link #219 | |
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The loli he meets is quite possibly an alien like Teppei, and after confirming Daichi's resolve in protecting earth (after he was shown the invader), the loli alien/the gun-object teleported him to the base, where he meets the creator of the Earth Engine. Considering le rainbow ring by Teppei, teleportation doesn't seem that farfetched. Whether or not this is considered rushed/bad writing is entirely up to your perspective, because I don't think this was any more nonsensical than how the other mecha animes handle their initial mecha aquiring scenes. |
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