2016-08-03, 16:13 | Link #121 | |
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The Snyderverse DC movies have been getting poorer ratings than the Marvel movies or the Nolanverse Batman movies simply because they're not as good. They're all deeply flawed so far, generally in the writing, which smacks of the "it would be cool if we changed this" without thinking it through mentality that has plagued the Fox movies (particularly with FF, but also somewhat with X-Men) other than Deadpool. There's a reason why these characters have become so iconic and memorable, so when you tweak them at a core level (Superman "forgot to smile", as HISHE so succinctly and brilliantly put it, Batman acts on assumptions rather than researching) versus on a surface level (the Maximoff twins are "mutates" rather than "mutants", Vision/Ultron were created by Stark/Banner rather than Stark/Pym), it all starts to fall apart.
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2016-08-03, 17:11 | Link #123 | |
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2016-08-03, 18:36 | Link #124 |
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Just a quick browse through comment sections of MOS & BvS movie reviews in various sites will give you the strong impression that many (DC) fans think that critics bashed DC movies coz its "darker". I call bullshit on that, like I said before .
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2016-08-03, 19:31 | Link #125 |
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Jack Snyder tends to go for the style rather than the substance, that's speaking as one who watch his movies since the Dawn of the Dead remake. Depending on the original material, it may enhance it (it did, imo, ofr 300) or hollow it (Dawn of the Dead).
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2016-08-03, 22:03 | Link #126 |
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If what I have heard is true Warner Bros should really stop messing with the movies and just let the director themselves edit them properly. I guess I will once again wait to see the Directors' Cut to get a proper view of the movies' real version and to be able to properly review the movie, which I don't mind doing (pretty much the reason I'm not salty and actually love BvS).
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2016-08-03, 22:21 | Link #127 | |
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As for this Suicide Squad, it seems the result is more mixed. Some of the critics that I trusted like it and some don't. But it looks like most of them agreed that the story/narrative is a mess, but there are some fun and good parts in it that make it worth watching. Still, many of them also brought up the "Fant4stic-syndrome" of problematic studio meddling and re-shoots.
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2016-08-03, 23:01 | Link #129 | |
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I like to watch reviews but just because they say not to watch it or play it it doesn't mean I won't or I don't have to, I still do as I please. If you want to watch something then just watch it don't wait for the opinions of someone on the internet or on some paper, you might be missing on stuff that you might end up liking just for following what some other person says or you might not like it, only you will know in the end. Of course it also helps to to not be an elitist when it comes to doing stuff, it makes life so much easier.
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2016-08-03, 23:17 | Link #130 | |
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There’s also the issue of “audiences vote with their wallets”. If I think WB/DC churn out bad movies, I don’t want to support them for it. And I’m glad I didn’t support the ticket sales of MOS & BvS. But I’m considering buying BvS Blu-ray simply because it was a better movie than what they released in theaters. For interesting movies that get trashed by my trusted critics and friends, I will still watch them and form my own opinions on them, but I’ll do it later on when it’s less money-consuming (like when they’re available for stream and rent, or just wait them air on TV ).
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2016-08-03, 23:46 | Link #131 |
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Look guys bottomline is the fact that the buzz is pretty bad almost assures that the movie won't be that level of "special" I think most of us were hoping for...Certainly the trailers fed that impression...
There's always a bad Micheal Bay movie that the common denominator of fandom still likes because of the action, explosions, etc., but rarely are those movies held in critical high regard, generally...So i think a lot of disappointment not only lies in these opening reviews, but in the fact that (even if you think critics are dumb) when it gets trashed this much of the gate some of that ragging is probably justified... Which in-turn, at least for me, dampens my excitment considerably...An adjustment to lower my expectations usually helps a bit.. (It did for BvS)... Additionally, just hearing Leto is barely in the movie is mind-blowing although not unprecedented in Hollywood hijinks...
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2016-08-04, 00:19 | Link #132 |
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Well, if you think about it, you have a huge cast to introduce, a setting and a plot. Add the fact that no villain has had a titular film of their own (see Avengers), the required exposition for every character just becomes too much, so I'd say even if it's not awesome movie of the year, it's what they could work with.
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2016-08-04, 01:11 | Link #133 | |
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2016-08-04, 01:44 | Link #135 |
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Eh, I know how to manage my money too and technically have no financial problem whatsoever if I want to watch whatever movies in theaters every weekend. But I just don’t want to do that for reasons I already explained above. Watching movies in theaters is supposed to be a refreshing activity that should be pleasant. Rather than spend those money on things I have a chance of disliking and dis-enjoying, I’d rather spend it on something I know I will enjoy such as: dinner with my wife, fishing, or buy the newest action figure/kits that I know I will like . All those for the sake of guaranteed entertainment. Watching movies I’ll have a big chance of disliking in theaters is just not an experience I would want to have for my weekend entertainment. I'm okay with watching it later on TV or my PC though.
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2016-08-04, 03:04 | Link #136 |
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Saw this film yesterday.
There are two tones in this film. One is darker tone like in BvS, the other one is happy go lucky tone like the one we see in Guardian of the Galaxy. This is what torn the movie apart cause you clearly see, the happy tone is added there after initial shooting ended. Anyway, Robbie Margot performance is top notch. Last edited by Azuma Denton; 2016-08-04 at 08:42. |
2016-08-04, 13:21 | Link #139 |
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So i just saw the film.
It was a good movie. Unlike Batman V Superman, it wasn't long and there were a lot of funny moments. Best character goes to Harley and her insane behavior. Jared Leto's Joker was also good as this version is more punk-like with mafioso attitude. The final battle wasn't epic like BvS but it wasn't bad. It's clear some scenes were cut from this film so they might release a Director's cut. All and all, a good, funny action DCU movie.
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