Lucky Star - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[~Tsukuyomi]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Poor Kagami..... she *REALLY* needs a hug now

Or more Yaoi... The girl's interested, give her more!!!

[pomps]

Err, I think Kagami enjoyed it, she just too shy to buy the book

[MakubeX2]

Actually this Episode proves that Konata is a strange breed of female anime fan in herself.

Notce that she never gets BL. That proves that she is not a　腐女子. But prefer to go for the normal male oriented doujins.

[WanderingKnight]

Oh, I loved this episode.

High points:

-Nice depiction of Comike. It was hilarious when Konata began preparations (I hear it was music from Doom?).
-BL Kagami was great.
-Tomokazu vs Tomokazu was possibly one of the best ideas that spewed out of this show. Cheers to that!
-The episode kind of slowed down after the first half, and the jokes got a bit low. But it was plenty of good moments, anyways.
-Did anyone notice the 10-15 second budget-saving scene when Konata & dad are watching TV?

[Vexx]

As far as I can tell from the Random Curiosity screen caps, this is an anime-only episode, though many of the individual gags *may* come from the manga (vol1-4). I'll have to wait for the subs to verify that (since I'm not watching raws on this puppy).

So far comments sound like its not a "product placement overloading the plot" but just a lot of background bits for people to play "Where's Waldo" with. I'll wait to see the execution before commenting further, though the Akira gag connecting L*C to the show appears hilarious.

Poor Kagami appears to have jumped into the deep end of the pool. Tsukasa, otoh, appears to be worried but not quite sure why

[angel_wing0]

kagami watching yaoi is soooooooooooooo owned

i was wondering where akira was since she never appeared in person, but when lucky channel came...

10/10

[MakubeX2]

And another thing....

Is Konata and Kagami even allow to make their purchases ? Don't they have rules aganist such a thing at Comike ?

And it's nice that they paid tribute to ZARD with 2 of her songs in the ED for this EP..

[pomps]

Maybe there are rules, but who cares to check their identification in that crowd. Also most of those doujinsh are againt copyrights law (most copyrights holder choose to ignore them though), so those who sell doujinshi wouldn't even mind if some highschool girls buy their stuff.

[dahl_moon]

Hey, I think you guys need to spoiler your posts. This episode just NEEDS to be watched unspoiled.

Spoiler for Episode 12:

OMG, Kagami + BL doujin FTW. The best moment in Lucky*Star since Kagami+SOS Danchou present

I was expecting new years and Kagami-miko, but Comike was an awesome surprise. As for how Comike was depicted, I can totally relate t....I'm not an otaku, I'm not an otaku, I'm not.... I also used to live near where the Korean Comike (Comic World) used to open, and the adults used to complain about the "weird people"(the subway station becomes overflowed with cosplayers)

Tomokazu vs Tomokazu was also awesome.

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

Is Konata and Kagami even allow to make their purchases ? Don't they have rules aganist such a thing at Comike ?

Not sure about Comike (only been to the Korean equivalent), but some of the booths are manned by high school kids, who are probably also the authors, so.......

[krln99]

Funny episode, although as mentioned before, the first half was a lot better than the second. I was kind of miffed a few weeks ago when they didn't show the Summer Comiket (which Kona said she would go to in the summer), but they made up for it by showing the winter one. There were so many KyoAni referrences in the background. I was also surprised to see the Anime Tenchou sequence again.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Oh, I loved this episode.
-Tomokazu vs Tomokazu was possibly one of the best ideas that spewed out of this show. Cheers to that!

Considering how mismatched they were.... I don't know I have my own reasons for liking it.

[dahl_moon]

After rewatching the episode (yeah, I don't feel like working), I really like this episode's Karaoke session. Seems really natural, with everyone (is it everyone?) joining in. Konata jumping in too early is also something that's commonly seen. I wonder if that was Hirano Aya's actual mistake, since the laughs from the others seem so natural. (wooo... has a sudden urge to go back to Seoul:-( )

[AVPlaya]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

And it's nice that they paid tribute to ZARD with 2 of her songs in the ED for this EP..

Haven't watch it yet, but I love this. I was so sad when ZARD's lead singer Sakai Izumi died last month. I almost came to tears. They had a few anime-related hits too. ZARD is one of my all time favorite bands... what a terrible way to go.

Anyone know which 2 songs?

As for Comike rules, there are no age restriction to enter Comike as it's not an adult-only event. Not all doujin are 18-kin, mind you. It's up to the seller of the material to make the age rule stick, but really, most circles will sell to anyone not looking children. No one checks ID. And what really happens is that everyone really ignore these age restriction rules anyway - I mean, the age of consent is 13 in Japan. You mean you can have sex at 13 but can't read adult material until 18? Most people are not up tight about sex (not like Americans) so if a boy reads porn it's totally okay as long as it's in private. Same with girls, as long as you don't talk about it in public. So basically anyone who's old enough to want to go Comiket get to buy anything they want.

Have you guys ever joined in a real conversation with a bunch of Japanese friends? Man the topic goes down hill really fast. All I can say is that in front of close friends, Japanese man and woman talks about sex openly and candidly. And then once everyone is drunk crying and accidental nudity will ensue. Ah good times.

[NeruNeru]

When Konata and Kagami are talking about kagamimochi, and Konata spreads her arms wide and says, "Kon~na no!", is anyone else reminded of Tonari no Totoro where Mei is talking about the Totoros she meets? Aya-sama's voice is so cute there! This episode was really awesome, but that was my favorite part. (^ω^)

[dahl_moon]

Originally Posted by AVPlaya

Haven't watch it yet, but I love this. I was so sad when ZARD's lead singer Sakai Izumi died last month. I almost came to tears. They had a few anime-related hits too. ZARD is one of my all time favorite bands... what a terrible way to go.

Anyone know which 2 songs?

1 is the incredible 負けないで, but I have no idea what the other ZARD song is. I feel so nostagic. I was introduced to ZARD songs during highschool by my highschool buddies. Another ending is 行け！ゴッドマン, an opening for a identically named tokusatsu.

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by dahl_moon

1 is the incredible 負けないで, but I have no idea what the other ZARD song is. I feel so nostagic. I was introduced to ZARD songs during highschool by my highschool buddies. Another ending is 行け！ゴッドマン, an opening for a identically named tokusatsu.

"Ike! Godman" isn't a song by ZARD, that was sung by Mizuki Ichiro. Besides, how on earth could ZARD sing a theme to a tokusatsu that aired back in 1972, when their first single was released in 1991? Sakai Izumi would've been only 5 years old!! wwww

Originally Posted by AVPlaya

Have you guys ever joined in a real conversation with a bunch of Japanese friends? Man the topic goes down hill really fast. All I can say is that in front of close friends, Japanese man and woman talks about sex openly and candidly. And then once everyone is drunk crying and accidental nudity will ensue. Ah good times.

Just join in on any university circle nomikai or goukon and you have instant openness which most Americans would consider to be sexual harrassment. Well from my point of view, Americans are just too Puritanical when it comes down to sex. I mean seriously, the years I've spent on this board surprised me as my initial thought of Americans were to be much more open than we were. Boy, was I wrong.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by kj1980

"Ike! Godman" isn't a song by ZARD, that was sung by Mizuki Ichiro. Besides, how on earth could ZARD sing a theme to a tokusatsu that aired back in 1972, when their first single was released in 1991? Sakai Izumi would've been only 5 years old!! wwww

Probably in the same way Aya Hirano was thought to be in SPT Layzner, which aired years before she was even born. A misunderstanding. Actually that error is still rife throughout the internet.

[lyric]

http://www.lucky-ch.com/info/info_aniten.html
Awesome, the card of this episode is already on sale...

Spoiler for otaku:

Oh my god, what a visual screenshot of OTAKU...
Hmm, now I can understand why OTAKU does not have girlfriend ALWAYS.

[AVPlaya]

Originally Posted by kj1980

"Ike! Godman" isn't a song by ZARD, that was sung by Mizuki Ichiro. Besides, how on earth could ZARD sing a theme to a tokusatsu that aired back in 1972, when their first single was released in 1991? Sakai Izumi would've been only 5 years old!! wwww

Yeah, "Go Godman!" was pretty bad. Glad I've never watched it as a child. I've posted my usual ED music post in the Music Video thread for those of you who had no idea how cool ZARD was. I was a HUGE ZARD fan. I even had her swimsuit photos in her pre-ZARD days....

Just join in on any university circle nomikai or goukon and you have instant openness which most Americans would consider to be sexual harrassment. Well from my point of view, Americans are just too Puritanical when it comes down to sex. I mean seriously, the years I've spent on this board surprised me as my initial thought of Americans were to be much more open than we were. Boy, was I wrong.

Yeah Americans are prudes. The board is nothing, wait until you actually spend time with them in a party. But there are another side... the college parties are pretty wild, but drunken teens are crazy everywhere. Nothing beats a Japanese party I must say.

[Vexx]

You have to remember the first european settlers to New World were, to a fair degree, religious fanatics who'd been thrown out of Europe because they got tired of them or missionaries bent on "fixing" the people there. Granted a lot of other people showed up later, but "puritanical" means something for a reason.

Oh, there's a lot of ribald perverse crap here, but there's also a huge streak of "GUILT" that results in some bizarro behavior at the individual and societal level. The funny thing is that I can trip across the border to Canada and can just feel and see the difference in attitude (not that they don't have some looney tune rules on comic porn). Go to western Europe and then its light years of difference.