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One Piece - Chapter 1013 [manga]
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As usual, credit goes to AP's Redon and co. for initial info: -Chapter title is "Anarchy in the Big Mom". Splash features Sanji and Zoro. -Ulti recovers from Nami's attack. The navigator follows up with a Tornado Tempo, but the enemy pirate dodges, and prepares to counterattack! However, before her blow can land, Big Mom suddenly steps in, and launches a combo attack using Prometheus, Napoleon, and her newest homie, Hera!!! The Maser Cannon (apparently based on this weapon from Godzilla films) blasts a hole through Ulti, instantly taking her down!!! -After the attack, Napoleon and Prometheus praise Hera's usefulness. We also learn that Prometheus requested Hera's creation for one reason only: To have a girlfriend. ![]() -Back on the roof, Kaidou (in human form) is alone again. He says the end result of the battle was obvious, but his excitement made him careless. He should have ended things sooner by beheading Luffy, so that there would have been no lingering doubts as to who would emerge victorious. But now, an unconscious Luffy has fallen off the island, plummeting towards the sea below.....!!!!! Last edited by marvelB; 2021-05-13 at 10:28. |
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So, to add my two cents on the spoiler: While it sucks that it looks like Oda blue balled us on Nami vs. Ulti, I think I can see what he's going for here: It's looking like we'll see Nami and Usopp team up with some supernovas to take on BM in another team battle. Kid's already there, and don't forget we learned just last chapter that Law was hunting down the empress, as well. Perhaps if Tama also succeeds in rallying all the Gifters together, we may have a formidable enough force to topple Linlin once and for all..... oh, and of course, Zeus shouldn't be denied some payback, as well!
![]() As for Luffy, no doubt he'll eventually be saved, probably by Marco, I guess (I already pointed out before that these "time-outs" between rounds are a pretty consistent pattern throughout the series). Anyway, I think it's pretty much guaranteed that Yamato will be Kaidou's next challenger until Luffy recovers. She specifically asked about his condition last chapter, so there's no doubt she's headed for the roof. Now it's time for her to prove to her old man how much she's grown..... |
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Yeah, Nami being denied a proper battle against Ulti is disappointing. But if it leads to her going up against Big Mom with the help of Zeus, it might be for the best. As for Usopp, I think he's more likely to escort Tama to the performance floor than to go up against an Emperor. Honestly, he's not strong enough to make a difference there.
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Frustrating spoilers.
The 5th time Luffy ended up losing vs a yonko in just this arc alone. It's just tiring and a waste of panel time at this point. This arc is already longer than the whole of East Blue and there's still no sign of it ending anytime soon. Nami setup from last chapter already nullified again. The flying 6 are down to 50% and none of it was the SHPs doing. This arc is like watching Windows XP copying a folder with the progress bar contantly setting back. |
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Five losses? This should be the THIRD time Kaidou's KO'd Luffy by my count (no, I don't count his G4 cool down as a "loss"). But hey, maybe our rubber friend really will break his record this arc for number of rounds, eh?
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![]() Oh, and it's kinda funny to think that Big Mom basically allows incest between her homies, heh. I mean, isn't Hera technically Prometheus's sister? But then again, inbreeding actually was a pretty common occurrence among the Greek/Roman deities, so maybe this isn't so weird, after all. Nonetheless, it still sucks that Linlin threw away Zeus in favor of Prometheus's horniness. ![]() |
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While I agree that Ulti and Page One have had the most panel time, they still haven't done anything substantial. Until they get a climactic 1v1 or 2v2 against the Straw Hats, I'm not counting them out. Right now, the Wano Arc is in its most chaotic and unpredictable phase. There's still some major events yet to occur before Act 3 ends and the battle shifts towards it climax in Act 4 (hell, remember that the Big Mom Pirates are lying in wait). Its either there are focused fights between the Straw Hats and the All-Stars/Tobi Roppo leading up to Act 4; or from the start of Act 4 onwards.
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BTW, out of curiosity.... do you count Luffy's G4 cool down against Doflamingo and Katakuri as 'losses", too? Because I don't think I've seen anyone else who has.... |
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Only provided insight on how I got to 5 defeats ince 2 people addressed it. I'm not trying to convince anyone.
As for your question I'll go by memory without looking through the chapters, I'ld say no vs Doflamingo. Iirc Luffy said something like he could have run from Doffy on his own while recharging. No loss vs Katakuri either as far as I remember. He was just trapped before the face reveal and freed himself. When he took Brulee and hid outside, he also did it to let Katakuri recharge his Haki to beat him at his best. The scene at the roof top with G4 running out was different compared to Doflamingo. Here he needed help directly, otherwise BMs attack would have connected. Also the running at Udon was a different situation. here he avoided the fight by running after the first clash. I don't remember a panel in Udon in which it was shown that he had the intention to defeat BM at that point. unlike with the Katakuri break. |
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Summary updated! Damn, Ulti may really be out of action at this point if she got a freaking hole blasted through her guts.
![]() Actually, it was Oda himself who confirmed in an SBS that Luffy could have toppled Dofla without outside help. Still, that always did make me curious as to whether or not he could have handled Burgess without Sabo's intervention.....? |
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Not to mention if the war drags out, Marines probably could be dispatched sooner than expected. This is just the opening war, after all, and I don't expect it will end in just a single day. |
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