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Hiss13 · 2014-04-21, 17:49

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Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Well first volume is out this Winter. They are following their every 4 month per release schedule and plan to speed it up.

Winter, huh...
Well, hopefully, it's well-received enough that Yen Press decides to speed it up.

I would love to have all of the volumes of Index in English on my bookshelf.

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Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Anyone that uses religion? Yeah. I mean, if they wanted to start now, it would be really weird.

I have very rarely seen religion portrayed in a positive light in fiction. I almost always see stuff like Tales of Symphonia where religion is portrayed in a pretty negative light. It's barely portrayed positively in Index...well overall, at least Index does give a fair treatment...both positive and negative...

dragon1412 · 2014-04-21, 22:34

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Originally Posted by Hiss13

Winter, huh...
Well, hopefully, it's well-received enough that Yen Press decides to speed it up.

I would love to have all of the volumes of Index in English on my bookshelf.

I have very rarely seen religion portrayed in a positive light in fiction. I almost always see stuff like Tales of Symphonia where religion is portrayed in a pretty negative light. It's barely portrayed positively in Index...well overall, at least Index does give a fair treatment...both positive and negative...

or we might get another Shana like situations.

Hiss13 · 2014-04-21, 22:46

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Originally Posted by dragon1412

or we might get another Shana like situations.

Quoting from the Yen Press Site here:

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A CERTAIN MAGICAL INDEX by Kazuma Kamachi, art by Kiyotaka Haimura – I can’t tell you how thrilled we are to finally be bringing A CERTAIN MAGICAL INDEX to you guys! One of the most popular and acclaimed light novel series in Japan, INDEX is also one of our most requested titles! This winter, science and magic clash in Academy City, when one unlucky young man finds a mysterious nun in his room and gets landed in the middle of a war he never expected!

As much as I would like to avoid another Shakugan no Shana debacle, I have a feeling that this might not end up like that.

Plus, I trust Yen Press's judgement considering that they have licensed other popular light novels (eg Spice & Wolf, Haruhi).

Ravagerblade · 2014-04-21, 22:49

.... how so?

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when one unlucky young man finds a mysterious nun in his room and gets landed in the middle of a war he never expected!

unless that was to save time, they just might get some things wrong.

ACertainStark · 2014-04-21, 22:51

I don't think a quick summary should be the judge of anything, Ravager.

Also, it's not only their site, but you can check the twitter account, too: https://twitter.com/yenpress

Most reactions if not all to the new announcements have been directed to Index.

GDB · 2014-04-22, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Ravagerblade

.... how so?

unless that was to save time, they just might get some things wrong.

How is it wrong? A LOT of people consider their veranda/balcony to be part of their apartment, and when it's basically just a studio apartment, that's the same as "their room".

Seriously, are people just looking for reasons to be pessimistic?

Birdway · 2014-04-22, 10:03

I thought the same, too much nitpick. Did you forget even Kamachi throws amibiguous summaries time to time? And the covers...

Ravagerblade · 2014-04-22, 10:21

to be fair I'm just being critical, I want what's best and quality. I think for both of us shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-04-22, 11:01

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Originally Posted by GDB

How is it wrong? A LOT of people consider their veranda/balcony to be part of their apartment, and when it's basically just a studio apartment, that's the same as "their room".

Seriously, are people just looking for reasons to be pessimistic?

Welcome to the Raildex fanbase

Our common past time is freaking out, stick around and you'll notice it as well

GDB · 2014-04-22, 11:03

Haha so it's not an isolated incident? Good to know. It's similar to the explosion of "emotions" when SAO and Accel World were licensed, so wasn't sure.

Kenju of the Right · 2014-04-22, 11:24

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Originally Posted by GDB

Seriously, are people just looking for reasons to be pessimistic?

Yeah that's how it usually is here

LevelSeven · 2014-04-22, 12:09

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Yeah that's how it usually is here

this is usually the way of humans XD
expect the worst so:
1. the good thing happened: you are even more happy
2. the bad thing happened: you can say "i expected this sh*t" XD

ACertainStark · 2014-04-22, 12:27

I dunno positivity and optimism go a long way in life!

edomaeexa · 2014-04-23, 14:40

Haha... Its over for Yen press. Expect their light novel series "brand" to endlike tokyopop's light novel division. The actual licensing bit is the biggest lie I ever heard and seen in my life. In reality, Yen press have only licensed the first volume of the series as well as in Sword Art Online and accel world. The reason? It's obvious, the licensing of these light novels are very expensive, the Index Series along will cause at least 100 million dollars at least to license (licensing isn't free you know ) .

The licence that Yen press has with Kadokawa Shoten is just a per volume licensing. This is because if the first volume flop, the series will flop as well and cause a loss to Yen press, this kind of licensing is cheaper and more risky at the same time. Even if it's is successful, Yen press will still make a loss. Here's the reasons;

Spoiler for reasons:

If you think Spice and Wolf light novel is successful, you so wrong. It's because of the manga sales that Yen press is still managing to release the light novels and Yen press is barely making any profit from the light novel sales.

Remember, it's a per volume license Yen press have not a master license (Whole series). They may have an agreement with the publisher to licensing the whole series but that's different from licensing the series.

Meaning... Index series is already a flop before the first book is even released, which is just so funny.

ACertainStark · 2014-04-23, 14:59

..... what?

Miraluka · 2014-04-23, 15:03

We need an specialist. Time to summon TJR.

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-04-23, 15:19

...Source? Otherwise I'm just going to see this as spreading FUD.

edomaeexa · 2014-04-23, 15:28

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...Source? Otherwise I'm just going to see this as spreading FUD.

No source, unfortunately but it's a analysis. The index series is popular that licensing it is so expensive. You may not believe me but I won't be surprised if Yen press just canned it after a few releases.

My best proof would be the licensing of hidan no aria. Only one volume then it's was canned and was reported by be a per volume licensing.

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-04-23, 15:32

Hidan no Aria isn't what I would think of as a title to succeed in the west to begin with.

More importantly I would also like confirmation about the pricing of the license, how do you know it's 1 million dollars?

If every volume license cost 1 million dollar and need half a million in sales then all the niche mangas would be considered a failure, yet we still have volumes after volumes coming out.

edomaeexa · 2014-04-23, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Hidan no Aria isn't what I would think of as a title to succeed in the west to begin with.

More importantly I would also like confirmation about the pricing of the license, how do you know it's 1 million dollars?

It's an estimate unfortunately but I will visit bet on it that it is near that figure considering the popularity of the series plus its sales power. Also, it's worth to note that with the launch of the Comic walker app, a similar app for light novels is already imminent and it will likely feature the index series.

Also, many manga publishers like viz media, Kodansha, etc are subsidiaries of the Japanese publishers, meaning they don't really require licensing in reality. Explains wihy Naruto and Co. is a profit makers.

Let's note that success doesn't always mean profit. Check out what happened to the Reborn! manga series.

2014-04-22, 10:03	Link #87
Birdway Banned Join Date: Jul 2012	I thought the same, too much nitpick. Did you forget even Kamachi throws amibiguous summaries time to time? And the covers... Last edited by Birdway; 2014-04-22 at 11:18.

2014-04-22, 10:21	Link #88
Ravagerblade The Fearless Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: "United" States	to be fair I'm just being critical, I want what's best and quality. I think for both of us shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. __________________ “No, I don’t get it at all. I may claim to ‘understand’ Othinus, but I only know her as a girl. I don’t understand anything when it comes to her being a Magic God.” - Touma NT13

2014-04-23, 14:40	Link #94
edomaeexa Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014	Haha... Its over for Yen press. Expect their light novel series "brand" to endlike tokyopop's light novel division. The actual licensing bit is the biggest lie I ever heard and seen in my life. In reality, Yen press have only licensed the first volume of the series as well as in Sword Art Online and accel world. The reason? It's obvious, the licensing of these light novels are very expensive, the Index Series along will cause at least 100 million dollars at least to license (licensing isn't free you know ) . The licence that Yen press has with Kadokawa Shoten is just a per volume licensing. This is because if the first volume flop, the series will flop as well and cause a loss to Yen press, this kind of licensing is cheaper and more risky at the same time. Even if it's is successful, Yen press will still make a loss. Here's the reasons; Spoiler for reasons: - in a per volume licensing, the Japanese publisher will have at least 50 percent takings in the profits of each volume. This means Yen press will only have 50 percent profits and even if the series or volume sell well, they were are likely to still make a lose. Assuming the per volume licensing stands at 1 million dollars at the moment, Each Index volume must sell beyond 500,000 copies for Yen press to profit and consider it as success. - Also in a per volume licensing, the publisher can easily increase the licensing fee if the novels are successful which will be very unlikely. If you think Spice and Wolf light novel is successful, you so wrong. It's because of the manga sales that Yen press is still managing to release the light novels and Yen press is barely making any profit from the light novel sales. Remember, it's a per volume license Yen press have not a master license (Whole series). They may have an agreement with the publisher to licensing the whole series but that's different from licensing the series. Meaning... Index series is already a flop before the first book is even released, which is just so funny. Last edited by edomaeexa; 2014-04-23 at 15:08.

2014-04-21, 22:51	Link #85
ACertainStark お姉さん☆ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 31	I don't think a quick summary should be the judge of anything, Ravager. Also, it's not only their site, but you can check the twitter account, too: https://twitter.com/yenpress Most reactions if not all to the new announcements have been directed to Index.

2014-04-22, 11:03	Link #90
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Haha so it's not an isolated incident? Good to know. It's similar to the explosion of "emotions" when SAO and Accel World were licensed, so wasn't sure.

2014-04-22, 12:27	Link #93
ACertainStark お姉さん☆ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 31	I dunno positivity and optimism go a long way in life!

2014-04-23, 14:59	Link #95
ACertainStark お姉さん☆ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 31	..... what?

2014-04-23, 15:03	Link #96
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	We need an specialist. Time to summon TJR.

2014-04-23, 15:19	Link #97
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	...Source? Otherwise I'm just going to see this as spreading FUD.

2014-04-23, 15:32	Link #99
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Hidan no Aria isn't what I would think of as a title to succeed in the west to begin with. More importantly I would also like confirmation about the pricing of the license, how do you know it's 1 million dollars? If every volume license cost 1 million dollar and need half a million in sales then all the niche mangas would be considered a failure, yet we still have volumes after volumes coming out.