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Old 2017-12-24, 17:13   Link #181
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For me to want to compile an analysis on what's likely to happen... Well, there's a huge amount of motivation because this series is now strands ahead of my all time fave (PMMM)... Which makes YuYuYu my #1!

That and I don't want to see any of the heroes die... I have little empathy for most humans, but geez, the other 95% I have reserved goes towards fictional characters, where the Hero Club takes a huge chunk on its own.



Flower: Red Geranium.
Symbolism: I've found multiple sources which indicate "stupidity" and "folly"...

Which to me suggests that something, or someone, will do something stupid... Which with where we are points to someone making a critical decision which could be considered stupid, in this case, a decision which would doom the world... Yuna deciding against sacrificing herself fits the bill perfectly and would mean that she's finally doing something for herself and look out for "everyone", as the other members suggest she needed to do in ep 5.



Preview lines:
1: "Don't mess with us!"
2: "I can't forgive this!"
3: "For Yuna's happiness!"
4: "Please believe in humanity."
5: "We want to live"

1 and 2 are pretty straightforward.
3: Suggests to me that the Hero club will fight until the bitter end to save Yuna and make her happy, somewhat straightforward but we won't know if this is possible until Ep 6 airs.
4: This comes across as begging, as in begging to give humanity another chance... Which comes across as very Persona-final-boss-ish where the protagonists would confront, converse with, battle the big bad and defeat the big bad and prove that humanity deserves another said chance.
5: Said by both Togo and Yuna, which reinforces the idea that Yuna will go against her initial decision of sacrificing herself. Togo saying this with Yuna suggests that this will occur when Yuna is with the rest of the club whilst confronting Amaterasu.



Update: Itsuki's Tarot reading and Yuna's arcana.

Back in the first (second) episode of the second half of S2 Itsuki drew a tarot card, just like how she did back in S1. This arcana was the wheel of fortune. As Itsuki described it as providing a "fateful encounter" (Sonoko) and meeting an unavoidable situation (What appears to be the end of the world).

Now for Yuna's arcana. If we have a look at the year that Yuna is situated in, it is apparently set 300 years AFTER the events in NoWaYu, which is set in 2015. This makes the year that YuYuYu is set in as 2315. Yuna's birthday is 03/21... But what is her birthyear? According to numerous places of data, they suggest she's 14 years old which would make her birth year... 2301... So her birthdate is set at 03/21/2301... Spooky to look at because of the doubles, 2 0's, 2 1's, 2 2's and 2 3's... Which brings us to her Arcana...

The Hanged Man: This arcana is described as the following.

"The Hanged Man generally shows that you are at a crossroads - one with only two options i.e. in or out, up or down, yes or no. You may find yourself very much wanting to do "something" but having no idea what it is or how to do it. If that happens, that's a clear sign that you should stop, relax, and look at ways that you might need to let go of attempts to control life/situations/people/things."

Considering what will happen in the final episode and what has happened since Yuna received the curse mark... This is really spooky stuff, yet, very insightful.
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Old 2017-12-26, 03:28   Link #182
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So now im done with playing catch up.
And im tired of all hearing these "Taisha again!" jokes, no whether they are kidding or not.

So yes, not all people actually enjoyed Christmas.
Actually Yuuna's is actually more serious than the usual fevers.
And to think she is forbidden to talk about the topic.

I feel like this year's Christmas is the worst dont you think? Of course aside from this show.

Anyway, Merry Christmas.
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Old 2017-12-26, 10:25   Link #183
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So did Gendou Ikari got brought in to think up that final Shinkou plan?
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Old 2017-12-26, 21:41   Link #184
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Now for Yuna's arcana. If we have a look at the year that Yuna is situated in, it is apparently set 300 years AFTER the events in NoWaYu, which is set in 2015. This makes the year that YuYuYu is set in as 2315. Yuna's birthday is 03/21... But what is her birthyear? According to numerous places of data, they suggest she's 14 years old which would make her birth year... 2301... So her birthdate is set at 03/21/2301... Spooky to look at because of the doubles, 2 0's, 2 1's, 2 2's and 2 3's... Which brings us to her Arcana...
I think you might be missing something but the set for YuYuYu might actually be in 2318-2319 since the 1st Generation Heroes back in 2015 were fighting the Vertex for 3-4 years before the Vertex destroyed the earth which started a new Divine Era
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Old 2017-12-27, 04:50   Link #185
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I think you might be missing something but the set for YuYuYu might actually be in 2318-2319 since the 1st Generation Heroes back in 2015 were fighting the Vertex for 3-4 years before the Vertex destroyed the earth which started a new Divine Era
Hmm, I wasn't exactly sure of when I should have started counting forward, either from when the Divine Era began or when the whole story began.

Let's see then... 14 years backward from both 2318 and 2319... 2304 and/or 2305

2304: Devil; card represents: Being seduced by the material world and physical pleasures; lust for and an obsession with money and power. Also: Living in fear, domination and bondage; being caged by an overabundance of luxury; discretion should be used in personal and business matters.

2305: Tower; The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, sudden change, destruction, higher learning, and liberation."



Definitely not the Devil... But the Tower? The Tower is actually rather suitable for Yuna.
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Old 2017-12-27, 10:29   Link #186
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So now im done with playing catch up.
And im tired of all hearing these "Taisha again!" jokes, no whether they are kidding or not.

So yes, not all people actually enjoyed Christmas.
Actually Yuuna's is actually more serious than the usual fevers.
And to think she is forbidden to talk about the topic.

I feel like this year's Christmas is the worst dont you think? Of course aside from this show.

Anyway, Merry Christmas.
For me, it definitely had more trials to overcome than last year. (Or maybe I was so stressed last year that I didn't notice the trials. However, I am noticing this year so it's actually better. Less travel for work and school.) Hope it goes better for you in the New Year!
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Old 2017-12-27, 15:19   Link #187
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I had to give up on S1 episode 05. It's just too standard magical girl fare, obviously they are not going the Madoka route.
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Old 2017-12-27, 15:21   Link #188
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It's after that point that things start getting even more serious. Try again, if you can.
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Old 2017-12-27, 15:23   Link #189
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It's after that point that things start getting even more serious. Try again, if you can.
Except they have the stupid reset ending in episode 12. What's the point with that, other than to not 'go dark'?
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Old 2017-12-27, 15:48   Link #190
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And I actually felt glad, at the time, that reset happened.
I'm not much of a fan of stories that get edgier with time.
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Old 2017-12-27, 23:15   Link #191
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Well, isn't the worst case scenario? Yuuna cursed her friends several times by accident during the heated arguments .. and then the final boss is coming too lol

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Except they have the stupid reset ending in episode 12. What's the point with that, other than to not 'go dark'?
i still don't quite get it either but it seems the reason is that taisha think that all of these sange stuff disheartened the heroes, create distrust towards the taisha , and one of them even decided to rebel. So the taisha decided to change the system, pretty logical since the sange system can only works if the heroes dodn't know anything about it. I do agree that it's the weakest part of the show (or something that is not properly explained yet). Overall the show is still very good and i have no problem overlooking this part.

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2304: Devil; card represents: Being seduced by the material world and physical pleasures; lust for and an obsession with money and power. Also: Living in fear, domination and bondage; being caged by an overabundance of luxury; discretion should be used in personal and business matters.

2305: Tower; The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, sudden change, destruction, higher learning, and liberation."

Definitely not the Devil... But the Tower? The Tower is actually rather suitable for Yuna.
Very useful info for people who don't understand the cards like me, thanks XD !!
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Old 2017-12-28, 00:50   Link #192
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Except they have the stupid reset ending in episode 12. What's the point with that, other than to not 'go dark'?
To pull an EVA 3.33 and show us that the happy ending may not be the best ending.

Sure, we saved Yuna....only to have her be sacrificed in the next series.
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Old 2018-01-05, 14:23   Link #193
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Old 2018-01-05, 14:51   Link #194
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Old 2018-01-05, 16:24   Link #195
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Shinjuu-sama sacrificed itself to kill the heavenly gods and restore the rest of the world to normal. Simple enough.

And they all lived happily ever after. The end.
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Old 2018-01-05, 16:25   Link #196
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Determine Shinju & Taisha (the role of each parties') to be good or bad can tell how much you understand the series surrounding I guess. Many has exacerbate both because their method is "evil" to the human eye(us), but their role was actually clear in one purpose.
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Old 2018-01-05, 16:58   Link #197
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Shinjuu-sama sacrificed itself to kill the heavenly gods and restore the rest of the world to normal. Simple enough.

And they all lived happily ever after. The end.
That will suffice. Then again, I suppose it's only natural for people to count an action as evil if it causes us suffering owing to our egos: if a gamma ray burst took us out tomorrow, the universe wouldn't care any about how we feel about it. I think this will be satisfactory for me to properly consider what Hero Chapter accomplished.
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Old 2018-01-05, 17:18   Link #198
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Soooo... talking about sacrifice, why didn't Shinjuu-sama do it in the first place to restore the world ? Because if they're willing to give Yuna away, why not the deity ? XD
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Soooo... talking about sacrifice, why didn't Shinjuu-sama do it in the first place to restore the world ? Because if they're willing to give Yuna away, why not the deity ? XD
Apparently it didn't do that because it didn't have nay faith in humanity to take care of themselves without any gods around. It's why in the finale Tougou is basically pleading with Shinjuu to believe in humanity and it's ability to persist without gods. Tougou's speech and all the souls coming forward got through to it, hence Shinjuu sacrificing itself at the end to take out the heavenly gods and restore the world.
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Apparently it didn't do that because it didn't have nay faith in humanity to take care of themselves without any gods around. It's why in the finale Tougou is basically pleading with Shinjuu to believe in humanity and it's ability to persist without gods. Tougou's speech and all the souls coming forward got through to it, hence Shinjuu sacrificing itself at the end to take out the heavenly gods and restore the world.
Thanks for making it clearer !
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