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PzIVf3 · 2012-04-29, 20:21

Make Taiwan Part of the Pivot
Washington can send a strong signal to Beijing if it sells F-16s to Taipei.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...400320772.html

Vexx · 2012-04-29, 20:51

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Originally Posted by PzIVf3

Make Taiwan Part of the Pivot
Washington can send a strong signal to Beijing if it sells F-16s to Taipei.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...400320772.html

An opinion from the WSJ (owner: Rupert Murdoch, opinion: war profiteer cheerleader Hammond-Chambers)... joy....

Opening bullshit statement in the article:

Quote:

Last year, [Obama] imperiled the island nation's deterrent against mainland China by refusing to sell it F-16s, though it did sell it upgrade kits for existing F-16s.

What exact "signal" would this be sending -- or more accurately, how would it be read by the currently frazzled PRC leadership?

SaintessHeart · 2012-04-29, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Haak

I'd love to but considering my ethnicity and religious background, if I was caught doing that it would be a one hell of bitch to explain.

Just say that you are using the infidel radical's weapons against them, now that the Hereford is down strength.

Vexx · 2012-04-29, 22:02

The death of facts in the USA:
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/29/151646...one-believe-it

**Solace** · 2012-04-29, 23:28

I chuckled at this line.

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Originally Posted by article

If there was a greater reputational price to pay for putting falsehoods out there, he says, perhaps there would be fewer of them in the first place.

It has nothing to do with reputational price. It has everything to do with a media that does this:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/aFQFB5YpDZE

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Crossfire was cancelled four months later because of this interview.....but the punditry (sorry, it's partisan hackery) has only gotten worse.

Vexx · 2012-04-29, 23:39

At some point, the braying jackass (like mister "communists!!!") has to be asked this and nothing else til he or she answers:

"Are you lying or are you stupid? There is no other choice."

Seriously - every single reporter should ask no other question til that one gets answered by the likes of these shit sprayers.

Zakoo · 2012-04-30, 00:18

Whether the reporter still have his job the day after this is another question though. Or at least here, he doesn't.

Vexx · 2012-04-30, 00:21

That's the whole fallacy of the "We report! You decide!!" that Fox (or CNN, other for-profit corporate news) utterly fail at ... These assertions and pronouncements are reported in a vacuum. There's no followup questions, no fact checking.

So.... meh.

And in separate news, we're also on the spiral of doom medically...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/he...-children.html

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-04-30, 00:52

Haven't you guys been circling that drainpipe with those conditions for the last... 20 years?

Vexx · 2012-04-30, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Haven't you guys been circling that drainpipe with those conditions for the last... 20 years?

Pretty much, I think the trainwreck is already underway - irreversible.

SaintessHeart · 2012-04-30, 01:05

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Pretty much, I think the trainwreck is already underway - irreversible.

I think Fox News is going to meet their own trainwreck.

GundamFan0083 · 2012-04-30, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Haven't you guys been circling that drainpipe with those conditions for the last... 20 years?

More like 60 years...but hey, who's counting right?

MeoTwister5 · 2012-04-30, 01:37

Good god how fucked up is your diet culture that Metformin and a TZD combination no longer works, and before they hit twenty? That drug combination is practically one of the final steps before you start taking insulin, and insulin is still hella expensive.

SaintessHeart · 2012-04-30, 01:39

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Good god how fucked up is your diet culture that Metformin and a TZD combination no longer works, and before they hit twenty? That drug combination is practically one of the final steps before you start taking insulin, and insulin is still hella expensive.

That, you have to blame :

1. Big Foods - there is so much meat in the American diet that it is so easy to get fat. And not to mention HFCS.....
2. Japan - If they didn't export moe, people wouldn't get diabetes.

Vexx · 2012-04-30, 01:40

I keep wanting to post nice pictures of the secondary complications of type 2 diabetes but it probably runs afoul of the PG-13 forum rules

(they're nasty..... and given the poor delivery of healthcare *and* diet options we're going to see an explosion of secondary complications).

Not meat so much.... but corn syrup, simple carbs, processed foods, and a counter-thrust from general inactivity.

MeoTwister5 · 2012-04-30, 01:42

It's not so much the meat as it is the saturated fats, cholesterol, processed polysaccharides and whatever other food additives added into fast food.

Hell I've seen an 18 year old diabetic with an amputated foot, and he had Type I. I imagine orthopedic surgeons will have a field day with the probable rise on diabetic feet requiring amputations. And those feet smell horrid.

Diabetic foot is one of those smells you'll never forget, like the smell of Stage 3+ cervical cancer. I can smell a diabetic foot from 8 feet.

ganbaru · 2012-04-30, 04:50

U.S. eyes testy China talks, Chen backer expects Chinese decision
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83S01V20120430

China mulls guarantees for ships carrying Iran oil
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83T03Y20120430

PzIVf3 · 2012-04-30, 07:57

South Korea arrests Chinese sailors in the Yellow Sea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17890929

Mr. DJ · 2012-04-30, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

That, you have to blame :

1. Big Foods - there is so much meat in the American diet that it is so easy to get fat. And not to mention HFCS.....
2. Japan - If they didn't export moe, people wouldn't get diabetes.

3. Fucktons of salt

MrTerrorist · 2012-04-30, 08:33

Australian billionaire Clive Palmer to build Titanic II

Let's just hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as it's predecessor.

2012-04-29, 22:02	Link #21124
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	The death of facts in the USA: http://www.npr.org/2012/04/29/151646...one-believe-it __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-04-29, 23:39	Link #21126
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	At some point, the braying jackass (like mister "communists!!!") has to be asked this and nothing else til he or she answers: "Are you lying or are you stupid? There is no other choice." Seriously - every single reporter should ask no other question til that one gets answered by the likes of these shit sprayers. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-04-30, 00:21	Link #21128
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	That's the whole fallacy of the "We report! You decide!!" that Fox (or CNN, other for-profit corporate news) utterly fail at ... These assertions and pronouncements are reported in a vacuum. There's no followup questions, no fact checking. So.... meh. And in separate news, we're also on the spiral of doom medically... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/he...-children.html __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories! Last edited by Vexx; 2012-04-30 at 00:41.

2012-04-30, 00:52	Link #21129
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Haven't you guys been circling that drainpipe with those conditions for the last... 20 years? __________________

2012-04-30, 01:37	Link #21133
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Good god how fucked up is your diet culture that Metformin and a TZD combination no longer works, and before they hit twenty? That drug combination is practically one of the final steps before you start taking insulin, and insulin is still hella expensive. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2012-04-29, 20:21	Link #21121
PzIVf3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somewhere at Earth	Make Taiwan Part of the Pivot Washington can send a strong signal to Beijing if it sells F-16s to Taipei. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...400320772.html

2012-04-30, 00:18	Link #21127
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	Whether the reporter still have his job the day after this is another question though. Or at least here, he doesn't.

2012-04-30, 01:40	Link #21135
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	I keep wanting to post nice pictures of the secondary complications of type 2 diabetes but it probably runs afoul of the PG-13 forum rules (they're nasty..... and given the poor delivery of healthcare and diet options we're going to see an explosion of secondary complications). Not meat so much.... but corn syrup, simple carbs, processed foods, and a counter-thrust from general inactivity. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2012-04-30, 01:42	Link #21136
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	It's not so much the meat as it is the saturated fats, cholesterol, processed polysaccharides and whatever other food additives added into fast food. Hell I've seen an 18 year old diabetic with an amputated foot, and he had Type I. I imagine orthopedic surgeons will have a field day with the probable rise on diabetic feet requiring amputations. And those feet smell horrid. Diabetic foot is one of those smells you'll never forget, like the smell of Stage 3+ cervical cancer. I can smell a diabetic foot from 8 feet. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2012-04-30, 04:50	Link #21137
ganbaru books-eater youkai Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Betweem wisdom and insanity	U.S. eyes testy China talks, Chen backer expects Chinese decision http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83S01V20120430 China mulls guarantees for ships carrying Iran oil http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83T03Y20120430 __________________ Last edited by ganbaru; 2012-04-30 at 05:05.

2012-04-30, 07:57	Link #21138
PzIVf3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somewhere at Earth	South Korea arrests Chinese sailors in the Yellow Sea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17890929

2012-04-30, 08:33	Link #21140
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Australian billionaire Clive Palmer to build Titanic II Let's just hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as it's predecessor. __________________