Chapter 363 Discussion

[hidantheimmortal]

Originally Posted by 0TaKu0

Ah man, looks like my self and Hunter saw this around the same time. I don’t know if its the fact that its 4:30 A.M., or all the “crap” that spilled out in the up and coming chapter, that’s making me feel all.. “ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!1111”

Where to start . . ., ok aside from how Sasuke survives the blast being utter and total bull shit, I wont even go in to that till the actual chapter comes out and we see how it really played out, also because we pretty much have to believe anything that Kishimoto throws at us. Tobi is dead? WHAT!?!? "The Real / Fake Akatsuki Leader" and the Unknown Member revealed ?!?!? WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!? I suspected that guy wasn’t the real leader, I always thought it was the Unknown Member, it looks like I was only half right!

The only thing that comes to mind is Naruto manga is going to be ending very soon, also I feel like Kishimoto ditched Tobi. I think originally Tobi was meant for something but it feels like Kishimoto is trying to pack things up and quit while he is ahead, I mean face it lately there's been allot of “hoo, haa” about his writing so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s trying to "cop out" its just so hard to believe that Tobi was a useless character, placed there for burst moments of comedic humor, and mindless entertainment? Its not just the Tobi thing its the whole revelation of "The Higher Power" (Makes you wonder if the AL is really the AL) and the Unknown Member, and orders from a higher power being "You must be the one to kill Naruto" all this, one cant help but get the feeling Kishimoto is trying to pack it up and end the Manga as soon as possible.

What’s going on Kishi!!! What is going on! Then again, maybe Kishimoto is just trying to make his Manga "interesting" again, kind of like a kick start I mean who the hell saw this coming? Seriously. Also, this revelation of the "the higher power pulling strings", it might not end with Akatsuki, its possible for there to be more arc's after Akatsuki, so maybe the Manga is not ending anytime soon, its expanding! Ahh can't wait for the chapter! Considering it should be a double issue, the spoiler doesn’t disclose much information, there is most likely allot more. Blah~ More comments later to come once I'm actually awake and not half dead. (Tobi can't be dead its a ploy I tell ya! A PLOY!)

Edit:

On a good note (if you consider this a good note) Some of the mind numbing theories about "Who is the Akatsuki Leader?", "Who is the Unknown Member?" and finally "Who is Tobi?" can finally stop! Sort of, cause he is not even the leader, however now a new generation of theories will be born about the higher power. >_<, I'll laugh if some one claims the higher power is Tobi LOL! (I don’t see the Tobi one as a good thing, Grrrr *wants to bite kishimoto* I can't believe Kishimoto blew away all three of those in one shot!!!!!!!!! OMG)

P.S. Her name is prounced Payne... but spelled Pein. . .? What is this Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2? Are we going to see Yuna and Rikku too >_>?

Well when Sasuke cut Tobi in half he was still alive right? An explosion is sometimes less effective depending on where you are near it. So Tobi has a slim chance of living through that explosion and Sasuke I don't know how he live through a blast that big being closer to deidara then Tobi so that is a mystery till Masashi tells us right?

[Sasuke_Bateman]

I don't think team Hebi are gonna be fighting right now anyways, they need a break for awhile plus Naruto needs some screen time.

[othafa]

Also, where the hell do you get your numbers from neoeagle? We don't know how much stamina Sasuke has at all post-timeskip. Furthermore, 4-8% per second for sharingan? I think not...he'd only be able to have it on for < half a minute. That makes no sense at all. Sharingan doesn't drain chakra on Uchihas nearly as fast as it does on Kakashi. Also, the sending of him and Manda takes no chakra at all, since hes just dispelling the summoning. All I get out of this is that we've seen the results of Sasuke's training, and they're good. This fight did, however, demonstrate that Sasuke's combat style lacks subtlety. As a result, this gives Naruto at least a small advantage despite the obvious difference in power and versatility, because tricks are always the difference makers in Naruto's best battles.

[Nintendo]

Spoiler:

read the raw.......damn good chapter.

manda is dead...poor snake. sasuke went inside of manda and then used a space jujitsu to fly into a different space.

they seem pretty set on tobi is dead and talked about how his power level is low and easy to get a member like him. Kisame talked about how tobi is able to cheer anyone up in a gloomy mood.

itachi looks sad, and the AK leader or fake leader tells him to cheer up since his problem is now dead.

[ghstwrld]

Originally Posted by neoeagle

Taken from someone else btw
1)Sasuke went cursed seal, and lost his wing
2)he used chidori more times than he SHOULD have been able to use(although he did have the cs activated)
3)he chidori'd himself.
4)used chidori senbon
5)chidori extendo-sword
6)chidori nagashi TWICE if I'm corect
7)and summoned a large snake (near the beginning, waaay before manda)

but even after all of that, which should have depleted 175% of his Chakra, even with CS activated, he manages to turn on his Sharingan (taking up, what I guess would be about 4-8% of his chakra every second), summons Manda (lets rememmber that NARUTO, who had a gargantuan chakra reserve [before TS] WITHOUT Kyuubi, had problems summoning Gamabunta with full chakra) with what should actually be realistically(remembering that Kakashi explains that CS constantly eats away at your chakra when you activate it) -75% of his chakra even though he has been tossed around and squandered his chakra with waste-of-time tactics basically the entire fight, and to top it all off he manages to send himself and giant fecking snake to another dimension(apparently) and then get brought back, either by Suigetsu or himself. either way he should be dead a minimum of 2x over.

It's been stated in the manga that you can increase your chakra capacity so I think this is a non-issue.

[shaselai]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

Ok i've seen the chapter...

Sasuke used Manda and transported with him into his own world right before the blast. Suigetsu summons Manda...judging from the scroll he had to wait till Manda could be summoned again. (which is why the picture of manda was shown and then disappeared)

The fact that this person is interested in Sasuke & Naruto makes me strongly believe that this real leader (who probably was unrevealed so far) is none other then Uchiha Madara.

And it seems that Boss creatures CAN die. (I thought these things would somehow return to life since Orochimaru had so many snakes that died)

Suigetsu seemed to have used Orochimaru's/Sasuke's blood to summon Manda.
But i wonder if Suigetsu had that much chakra or just that it takes less chakra if you do it with a scroll.

Even if a battle royal would be upcomming then team Hebi is already in bad shape.
- Sasuke is hurt and probably has little power left.
- Suigetsu seemed to have used quite a bit of chakra to summon Manda.

The battal royale will most definitely not happen... since when sakura/naruto sees sasuke in his injured state they will no doubt let team hebi leave to tend to sasuke's wounds. It would be awesome that there is a big fight coming up though since we havent seen shino/hinata and shiga's new moves..

[Zek]

By the way, it seems like Suigetsu summoned Manda quite a distance away from the source of the blast, so Konoha probably won't find them at all.

[EfrainMan]

Hmm...one of the translations seem to indicate that the AL is "Pein," not the Akatsuki girl. It seems to coincide with the pics and bubbles on the Chinese scan floating about, as no one seems to be talking to her. Hopefully I'm wrong, but that would be sumfin, eh?

[That Other Ninja]

OoOo wow "pein" for the man with multiple piercings. Alright, its established... Kishimoto's sealed stamp of approval for originality DONE.

[Soulnin]

Not a bad chapter if only for the ending alone.

Just a random thought, I'm sure that earlier in part two the AL had less rings in his eyes. All of a sudden he has an awful lot of them like a hypno coin or something.

Tobi has to have survived or else the whole coming back to life after Sasuke slashed him stint was pointless.

[othafa]

Originally Posted by Soulnin

Not a bad chapter if only for the ending alone.

Just a random thought, I'm sure that earlier in part two the AL had less rings in his eyes. All of a sudden he has an awful lot of them like a hypno coin or something.

Tobi has to have survived or else the whole coming back to life after Sasuke slashed him stint was pointless.

Not necessarily true. He still laid the land mines. However, I agree with you, hes so not dead.

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Zek

By the way, it seems like Suigetsu summoned Manda quite a distance away from the source of the blast, so Konoha probably won't find them at all.

That's right....Kakashi will probably think about something like Hiraishin since it has the same effects as what Sasuke did...only if Suigetsu got killed he'd be trapped...till someone would summon Manda WITH a snake contract (and only Orochimaru & Sasuke would be able to do so...using their blood)

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

OoOo wow "pein" for the man with multiple piercings. Alright, its established... Kishimoto's sealed stamp of approval for originality DONE.

It probably sounds more exotic to the Japanese-speaking/reading audience who make up most of the readers.

[othafa]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

That's right....Kakashi will probably think about something like Hiraishin since it has the same effects as what Sasuke did...only if Suigetsu got killed he'd be trapped...till someone would summon Manda WITH a snake contract (and only Orochimaru & Sasuke would be able to do so...using their blood)

Kabuto may be able to pull it off now, since he shares part of Orochimaru's genetic makeup.

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

It probably sounds more exotic to the Japanese-speaking/reading audience who make up most of the readers.

I don't think "pain" sounds any different slurred by a Japanese tongue, or for any other tongue for that matter.

[tramadrama]

So Pein is the name of the leader LOL. If originality is out of the window, the female's name is Joy.

[Sazelyt]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

only if Suigetsu got killed he'd be trapped...till someone would summon Manda WITH a snake contract

Are you sure? If it is Sasuke, Kishi will most likely transfer him to another summon. If you can believe him what he did, anything related to the summon world is currently a possibility. As long as he is in the summon's world, he can do whatever he likes. Since, it seems, there is currently no rule that suggests, no human can go or live in the summon's dimension. I wonder, if the story will get even more stupid. Actually, I am sure, as long as Sasuke and Itachi are alive, the story will only get worse: summon from the third dimension - Sharingan summon (before it was beyond our reach, now it is within the reach)

[Sarugaki]

Originally Posted by Zek

By the way, it seems like Suigetsu summoned Manda quite a distance away from the source of the blast, so Konoha probably won't find them at all.

So how does the Akatsuki leaders know about Sasuke being alive ? ( while Zetsu and Itachi don't ???)

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by tramadrama

So Pein is the name of the leader LOL. If originality is out of the window, the female's name is Joy.

The emo's have spread across the pacific... RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!@>!!!J*(

[nightengale5385]

Very interesting chapter and It seems Pein and this woman are already in Konoha(more battles yay). Also this new "leader" spoke highly of Sasuke, does it mean the akatsuki have no more use for Itachi? If naruto was suppose to be Itachi's catch, then why didn't him and Kisame get sent out?