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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 791 | 63.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 163 | 13.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 95 | 7.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 67 | 5.40% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 17 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 18 | 1.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 7 | 0.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 0.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.32% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 72 | 5.80% | |
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2008-09-28, 13:14 | Link #1061 |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Having watched the sub, I couldn't help it but give this a 1/10. Several plot elements were conveniently forgotten, some issues weren't resolved. I'm not going to go over those since that's already been done, but they're still there.
The number one issue was Zero Requiem itself. It was nothing more than a simplistic suicide plan, which in the end turns out to be the easy way out for the protagonist and in no way makes him atone for his sins. The only redeeming qualities this episode had were the fact that a select group of people realized what was happening, so that in their hearts he wasn't the monster he made himself appear. Despite this though, the end was unsatisfactory, rushed, a true train wreck. There must be a follow up OVA or movie where this ending is expanded on, and the ambiguity is done away with. After all the shit Nunnaly, and Suzaku have gone through it's inconceivable that they receive such a train wreck of a conclusion. Nunnaly gets to understand her brother only to see him pass away in front of her. Why the fuck even restore her vision? Ah the cruelty! I don't care anymore if his shitty plan was for the sake of the world and making his sister happy is selfish of him. The least they deserve is to be together. Oh well, at least there's Gundam 00 to look forward to now =/ |
2008-09-28, 13:14 | Link #1062 | |
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The death scene was Awesome ! really well done .. no argue about that ! I actually give 100/100 and sunrise making an OVA or a Movie would totally ruin everything ! but still with everything happened I can't simply believe hes dead ! I mean... the evidence are showing sth else... ( not meaning that fan made picture ! ) |
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2008-09-28, 13:18 | Link #1064 |
Aboard Kallen's Bandwagon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: California
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I am going to say that Kallen did figure out what Lelouch was doing as early as when she was a prisoner on that parade. She knew that, after seeing zero pop out, lelouch was sacrificing himself. And of course, when todo was about to identify the new zero, she insists its just zero and cries. Also at the end when she is going back to school, she sees lelouch's picture and smiles and says that what he's done has helped the world, by explaining the results of what he has done. I don't know if nunally has told kallen at this point yet, but i'm sure kallen has figured it out.
And yes, based on the ending with CC, I do believe Lelouch is the wagon driver and he is in fact alive. CC cocking her head seals the deal for me and she says it in a way where he is nearby (driver). So there you have it. My other thoughts: Ogi alive = fail. I feel very bad for suzaku because he can no longer come out in public at all and only nunally knows him (which will help maintain suzaku's sanity haha..) I hope they do an ova and talk about the lives of the other main characters, like cornelia, todo, nunally, and more of kallen (HELL YAH!).
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2008-09-28, 13:18 | Link #1065 |
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Technically, they could easily resolve if Lelouch is alive or dead with C.C. in an additional picture book... 25.25 or something LOL.
But, honestly. Why would Suzaku be willing to wear the mask of the symbol that killed Euphie? That bugs me to no end. |
2008-09-28, 13:19 | Link #1066 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Someone in Sunrise must have read the Dune sci-fi series by Frank Herbert.
In that series, an Emperor called Leto II seized the throne and knowingly becomes a tyrant, killing a whole load of people for the good of humanity in the long run, something he calls the "Golden Path". He dies willingly and with full knowledge of his death, knowing precisely how he was going to die and with knowledge that his death would provide the best chance for the future of humanity. In this series, an Emperor called Lelouch seized the throne and knowingly becomes a tyrant, killing a whole load of people for the good of humanity in the long run, something he calls the "Zero Requiem". He dies willingly and with full knowledge of his death, knowing precisely how he was going to die and with knowledge that his death would provide the best chance for the future of humanity. Coincidence? Perhaps! Actually it does not matter. At the end of the day, Lelouch died for our sins. ALL HAIL LELOUCH!
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2008-09-28, 13:19 | Link #1067 | |
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I really hope this is true, and after thinking about it he probably is immortal because he has a ton of power that seems to be equal to Charles. |
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2008-09-28, 13:19 | Link #1068 | |
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2008-09-28, 13:19 | Link #1069 | |
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At any rate, Lelouch died for our sins! Oh shi-, he must be Jesu- XD |
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2008-09-28, 13:23 | Link #1070 |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Lelouch isn't dead. Notice how the scene focus on the pink crane at the end...a crane in Japanese usually means a wish has been made. That wish I guess was fulfilled when CC was in the Church praying for LULU to NOT die...Lulu is the cart driver.
This ending was made for all POV. People who wanted Lulu to die are satisfied, and people who didn't want Lulu to die are also satisfied because we have enough evidence to believe that LUlu is still alive and indeed...riding that cart. |
2008-09-28, 13:23 | Link #1071 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County
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The wagon driver at the end was
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Meh, I knew they were going to forget about C.C.'s name or not bother mentioning it...blah. I hope there would be a picture drama or sound drama that tells us her real name. Seriously though, I so wanted a CC/Lelouch ending and I get this? WTF....
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2008-09-28, 13:24 | Link #1072 | |
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I believe Suzaku cried for him because The action of him had to kill his best friend was simply sad ! wouldnt you cry if you were supposed to kill your best friend ?! and if tht doesn't satisfy you... other reason... he simply didn't know about Lulu's code and him being Immortal... I'm sure even Lulu didnt know it himself till the moment he died ! Because code only activates when the Holder of the code actually dies ! Same thing with C.C ... And same thing with Lulu's mother when hers was activated the moment she was dying... but since her physical body was already shot all she could do was transferring herself ( her memories / virtual self ) to that pinky hair girl ( forgot her name XD ) using her just activated Geass power ! |
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2008-09-28, 13:26 | Link #1075 |
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You know what is really ironic? If Lelouch had merely agreed to the terms that Kaguya provided in the UFN meeting (Lelouch cutting his vote in the UFN), it would have brought about peace too. One of the requirements for entering the UFN is the country ridding itself of its own army and accepting the BK's as the army for the entire UFN. If Lelouch had simply agreed, the Britannian army would have been stripped, the BK's would have been the army for Britannia as well... and then there would be no way for the UFN and Britannia to fight amongst eachother anymore because they would be sharing the same army.
Easy way to a peaceful ending and no one has to get FLEIA-ed or die! And with Lelouch's mental capabilities... he would do more good for the world alive than dead or missing. |
2008-09-28, 13:27 | Link #1077 | |
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2008-09-28, 13:27 | Link #1078 | |
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There's one problem with that - Don't forget: at that time Schenizel was still out and about with Damacles. No way he's gonna accept Lelouch's decision. And I'm not worried about Lelouch's strategic genius - he's Geass Schenizel into working for Nunally - and he's plenty smart. One think that bothered me as pointed out by other is, looks like Schenizel is still Geassed? How does that work? Or did he break out of his Geass and decides to help Nunally anyway? Or does it mean....anyway, I'm going to stop speculating because we're not gonna get a definite answer anyway. |
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2008-09-28, 13:28 | Link #1079 | ||
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