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Old 2016-08-12, 17:52   Link #18221
Strigon 13
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So guys about E-1: For ships equip, you do sonar + dc and gun, or just full ASW?

Currently using FBB-2CL-3DD.
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Old 2016-08-12, 17:55   Link #18222
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Still doing 丙 for farming purposes, but recommend 2 CL and 4 DD with at least three or four first-strike capable ones. Equipment on full ASW aside from a couple of tweaks for LOS.
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Old 2016-08-12, 18:08   Link #18223
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I did it the dumb way and straight out started on Ko totally forgetting that the Submarine drops there - so I gotta farm her on hard now

On another note: YOu can also use a CVL - really helps with the pre nodes too an´d can easily sink the Hime's escorts. - That is if you got enough +6 ASW planes. Other advantage is that you can bring a Saiun which removes the chance of negative T crosses; Disadvantage is you loose a ship that can equip T3 equipment.
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Old 2016-08-12, 18:12   Link #18224
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Interesting suggestion, thanks. Gotta try it after my ships recover their strenght a little (Dammit Shigure, stop eating all of SS-Hime's torps).

Was using FBB mostly because I don't feel confident that my girls can sink the boss in 1 shelling phase (knowing my luck and all).

Also, E-1 is a great place to finish those transport quests.
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Old 2016-08-12, 18:18   Link #18225
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Its of course not a bad plan either, as the boss has loads of Armor and you can attack it double as much this way;
I peronally just prefer bringing a Saiun every time I can;

I also don't really want to waste a FBB this early on considering the fleet lock. Going by my luck Roma or Italia will cause positive routing and those two are rteally the only ones I'd be williung to sacrifice early on

Edit: I played around with the FBB setup a bit and tried 1cvl , 2CL, 2 DD, 1 FBB

So to the advantages: Of course you get more attacks against the boss - while you get only 8 with a non FBB setup (Assuming that both and only the CLs can do Preemptive ASW here) you get a total of 8 attacks on the boss compared to a total of 12 with an FBB and a CVL; Disadvabntage is you go through node C which has both a BB and 2 CVLs as well as the fact that the abyssals get more chances to screw you over. You also need moe fuel and ammo and if the CVL gets shot into major damage its pretty much over as you loose an entire asw dealer.- Of course I could try it without Zuiho and stil get 12 shots at the boss but survability will sink (no pun intended) to a far lower level than with her.

I'll test it without a CVL while having an FBB in the fleet tomorrow - but I am pretty sure it will rain red Ts for me.
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Old 2016-08-12, 20:55   Link #18226
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Well that's the downpoint of using the FBB, you're at the mercy of the feared Red-T. But still that comp so far as worked with no failure (At least for me). So far I only got one Red-T at the boss node.

I'll just finish E-1 tonight and call it a day.
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Old 2016-08-12, 21:42   Link #18227
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Its of course not a bad plan either, as the boss has loads of Armor and you can attack it double as much this way;
I peronally just prefer bringing a Saiun every time I can;

I also don't really want to waste a FBB this early on considering the fleet lock. Going by my luck Roma or Italia will cause positive routing and those two are rteally the only ones I'd be williung to sacrifice early on

Edit: I played around with the FBB setup a bit and tried 1cvl , 2CL, 2 DD, 1 FBB

So to the advantages: Of course you get more attacks against the boss - while you get only 8 with a non FBB setup (Assuming that both and only the CLs can do Preemptive ASW here) you get a total of 8 attacks on the boss compared to a total of 12 with an FBB and a CVL; Disadvabntage is you go through node C which has both a BB and 2 CVLs as well as the fact that the abyssals get more chances to screw you over. You also need moe fuel and ammo and if the CVL gets shot into major damage its pretty much over as you loose an entire asw dealer.- Of course I could try it without Zuiho and stil get 12 shots at the boss but survability will sink (no pun intended) to a far lower level than with her.

I'll test it without a CVL while having an FBB in the fleet tomorrow - but I am pretty sure it will rain red Ts for me.
You should get more OASW ships in the fleet, hence having ships like Asashio K2D and Isuzu helps a lot.

Okay, cleared E2... now planning on tackling E3...
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Old 2016-08-12, 22:43   Link #18228
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Finishing my sparkle stacks on expeditions before attempting to farm the new sub. Then Hard Mode shouldn't be a problem because I have enough OASW ships.
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Old 2016-08-12, 23:10   Link #18229
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Done with E-1
Spoiler for Fleet:

I'm regretting putting Kasumi K2 in, should have put Asashimo instead Must have been half asleep when I started this. Hope it doesn't come back and bite me in the ass later.

Guess I'll try for the new sub a while before moving on to E-2, one of my DDs keep getting red by the subs in node F
(Before anyone comments, Bismarck and Asashio are in there just for training )
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Old 2016-08-13, 00:02   Link #18230
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You should get more OASW ships in the fleet, hence having ships like Asashio K2D and Isuzu helps a lot.

Okay, cleared E2... now planning on tackling E3...
Doubt I'll have the time to level assashio any frther before the end of the event. - I am usually not impressed with the B/D models though.
I also suspect that reversing it laser will make you loose all the modernisations to the ship you already made. - Can't say for sure though since I never tried before

Ironically Yuudachi and some others(Ironically all the ones you don't want to waste on E1) should be able to do it with an upgraded t3 sonar. , its really just one map though. So yeah.
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Old 2016-08-13, 00:05   Link #18231
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Doubt I'll have the time to level assashio any frther before the end of the event. - I am usually not impressed with the B/D models though.
I also suspect that reversing it laser will make you loose all the modernisations to the ship you already made. - Can't say for sure though since I never tried before

Ironically Yuudachi and some others should be able to do it with an upgraded t3 sonar. , its really just one map though. So yeah.
Wanted to save Yuudachi for E3 though... but then you only need high power ships that can hit the land bases well for E3...

Then you also have the problem of BB summer hime at pre boss node trying to give you taiha galore... heck, I got a feeling they are equipped with Abyssal Surface radar instead of surface radar mk 1(?)... whats with their accuracy?
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Old 2016-08-13, 00:05   Link #18232
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So about I26 and Aquila.... Are they S rank only?
As far as both are concerned (and from searching Japanese tweets about it) Aquila is an S-Rank drop.

The boss node in E-3, I think, generous in regards to the encounter rate of holo drops - provided you can reach it that is.

Joke mode ON: Seriously Akagi? Why were you there (as a drop)? Did you by any chance hear about the news where Pahang (the largest state in the West Malaysian peninsula) has a store of bauxite enough for your serving of an all-you-can-eat?

But getting there by itself is pretty enraging, even on Hei (丙). If you don't get stopped by Takoyaki Wo Kai, you still have Double Bikini Dysons.

It got to the point where I expended all of my LBAS attacks + opening carrier airstrikes just to get rid of them before they can shoot anything. But 4CV(B)s for the map carries me through a long route which also lands into an air battle and a fuel maelstrom so economically that'd be a terrible choice for farming

So right now as I try to recover some I'm waiting for two things: sane routing for E-4, and sane farming compositions for E-3. E-1 is basically a cakewalk with OASW and is a single-fleet map with a light fleet so I'm not so concerned about it. But... yeah I really want Aquila first (probably after getting Warspite).
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Old 2016-08-13, 00:36   Link #18233
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Done with E-1
Spoiler for Fleet:

I'm regretting putting Kasumi K2 in, should have put Asashimo instead Must have been half asleep when I started this. Hope it doesn't come back and bite me in the ass later.

Guess I'll try for the new sub a while before moving on to E-2, one of my DDs keep getting red by the subs in node F
(Before anyone comments, Bismarck and Asashio are in there just for training )
Hmm... What route did you take when you used this fleet? I am curious as you went with a FBB here.

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As far as both are concerned (and from searching Japanese tweets about it) Aquila is an S-Rank drop.

The boss node in E-3, I think, generous in regards to the encounter rate of holo drops - provided you can reach it that is.

But getting there by itself is pretty enraging, even on Hei (丙). If you don't get stopped by Takoyaki Wo Kai, you still have Double Bikini Dysons.

It got to the point where I expended all of my LBAS attacks + opening carrier airstrikes just to get rid of them before they can shoot anything. But 4CV(B)s for the map carries me through a long route which also lands into an air battle and a fuel maelstrom so economically that'd be a terrible choice for farming

So right now as I try to recover some I'm waiting for two things: sane routing for E-4, and sane farming compositions for E-3. E-1 is basically a cakewalk with OASW and is a single-fleet map with a light fleet so I'm not so concerned about it. But... yeah I really want Aquila first (probably after getting Warspite).
Well... Wo kai on one hand is not an issue if she is in Diamond formation, which she can be (I met her in Double Line and Line Ahead in hard, but only once did I see a diamond formation.).

However, the Bikini Dysons on the other hand, is in Double line or Line ahead formation, and any shots they do sure hurts... a lot... heck, I don't think the original dyson is that accurate...
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Old 2016-08-13, 00:54   Link #18234
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Hmm... What route did you take when you used this fleet? I am curious as you went with a FBB here.
BEFGI - I have to go through an extra surface node (node E) and arrive with only 20% fuel, so no night battles. In exchange, I get a 2 strikes of ASW. Night combat against subs don't usually go well anyway
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Old 2016-08-13, 01:00   Link #18235
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So, decided to go into 3 runs in E-2 before going to sleep, and you know what they say about the desire sensor....

Spoiler for Totally wasn't expecting this:


E-2 Boss node Easy (So I think also in Normal-Hard too), S-rank only.
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Old 2016-08-13, 02:36   Link #18236
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So, decided to go into 3 runs in E-2 before going to sleep, and you know what they say about the desire sensor....

Spoiler for Totally wasn't expecting this:


E-2 Boss node Easy (So I think also in Normal-Hard too), S-rank only.
1st pudding? actually can any1 confirm this "a friend heard that you can get extra pudding now"
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Old 2016-08-13, 02:43   Link #18237
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Well... Wo kai on one hand is not an issue if she is in Diamond formation, which she can be (I met her in Double Line and Line Ahead in hard, but only once did I see a diamond formation.).
The Wo Kai in my case is pretty unsympathetic. 1 plane left for shelling? Diamond formation? Doesn't matter, boom there goes a shipgirl in my fleet into Chuuha. And since the next node is pretty bad news, I dread that moment Wo Kai does as much as putting anyone into Minor Damage...
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Old 2016-08-13, 03:35   Link #18238
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Oh, so I-26 also drops on E3 boss node. Switching to clearing mode then at E1.
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Old 2016-08-13, 03:55   Link #18239
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Looking at her stats, Aquila is like a worse Graf Zeppelin, with 10 more planes if it can comfort ppl. She is a cute ponytailed redhead tho.
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Old 2016-08-13, 04:48   Link #18240
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Looking at her stats, Aquila is like a worse Graf Zeppelin, with 10 more planes if it can comfort ppl. She is a cute ponytailed redhead tho.
Not that Graf having ten less planes stopped me from leveling her (Graf) too hard the next thing I realize was that she's my next highest-leveled CV after FirstCarDiv and the cranes

But yeah apart from Graf's night battle gimmick the only thing that she will probably have going for her is her character and probably her Re.2005 plane.
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