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Old 2007-04-28, 12:53   Link #181
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it sounded to me like Jiraiya was going to be on the 4 man team...that would be cool. I wanna see Jiraiya : ) I also think Itachi and Kisame is going to win and get away.
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Old 2007-04-28, 13:17   Link #182
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He might be trying to finish the akatsuki arc quickly so we move to another arc..but apart from sasuke and possibly madara i dont see any other plausible evil guys.. hope there is some konoha secret.. this manga needs a big twist in my opinion - it is too linear.
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Old 2007-04-28, 14:11   Link #183
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I've seen that someone mentioned how will Naruto find Itachi. He could easily get help from Jiraiya from his info network.

As for Suigetsu collecting blades from the Swordsman of the mist. He probably plans on fusing the blades. Otherwise this could lead to a hidden secret that only the Swordsman of the mist know that Suigetsu stumbled upon.
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Old 2007-04-28, 14:23   Link #184
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and bring back hinata damnit!
QF the fucking T!
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Old 2007-04-28, 14:54   Link #185
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I hope that Sasuke and is team lose to Iatachi and kisame and the only survivor is sasuke. It would be so cool to see Itachi after wiping the floor with Sasuke to tell him he still does not have enough hatred. After that Sasuke should seek Naruto to kill him for MS. After all Itachi said no one without his eyes could kill him.
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:07   Link #186
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It would even more funny if Sasuke had MS had pwn Itachi and he ran off
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:09   Link #187
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QF the fucking T!
Um.....what does QF mean?

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I hope that Sasuke and is team lose to Iatachi and kisame and the only survivor is sasuke. It would be so cool to see Itachi after wiping the floor with Sasuke to tell him he still does not have enough hatred. After that Sasuke should seek Naruto to kill him for MS. After all Itachi said no one without his eyes could kill him.
I think Itachi will die in the upcoming chapters. It would be quite stupid to have Sasuke lose this fight to Itachi again. Because if it does keep happening then Itachi will keep hovering over Sasuke's goal. I mean Sasuke has been holding back some of his jutsu(or should I say Orochimaru's jutsu).
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:14   Link #188
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Um.....what does QF mean?
Quote For "the fucking" Truth
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Old 2007-04-28, 16:09   Link #189
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He might be trying to finish the akatsuki arc quickly so we move to another arc..but apart from sasuke and possibly madara i dont see any other plausible evil guys.. hope there is some konoha secret.. this manga needs a big twist in my opinion - it is too linear.
I think you're right to some degree. I think hes trying to bring the conflict between Itachi and Sasuke and between Naruto and Akatsuki to a head prematurely. I think that this is intentional, and fits the form of a kind of faux resolution which will allow for a temporary deviation from this main conflict, but allow great potential for future development. Also, I speculate that the time when the conflict appears to be nearing resolution is exactly the time when orochimaru will assert his dominance over sasuke's psyche, at least for a marginal amount of time. Naruto and Sasuke will work together and start to reestablish their bond against their common enemies, which will make it that much more disappointing for the readers when sasuke gets snatched away again. However, I can see at least 5 or so akatsuki members walking away from this conflict to lick their wounds and try later, which will let us have some non-akatsuki development for a little while. Just my thoughts...should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 2007-04-28, 16:31   Link #190
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I think they'll need a big team to face God , i hope Itachi beat them all and i mean beat them easily (Team Naruto) , hey maybe Kakashi will die and Naruto gets Obito's Sharingod.
-Are you being honest with this? Wouldn't a Sharingan make Naruto (the chkara and stamina fiend), I don't know, UBER? He wouldn't even heed to cover it with his protector either. Hey since we are on a roll already I predict that Naruto might actually posses Uchiha Blood in him and will awaken his own Sharingan soon (yeah like Kishimoto would ever allow that to happen)...
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Old 2007-04-28, 17:05   Link #191
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I was thinking do we need spiler tags in chapter discussions if there is a [Manga]?
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Old 2007-04-28, 17:15   Link #192
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Old 2007-04-28, 17:45   Link #193
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Well i think we'll see more than 1 team leave konoha to hunt akatsuki, like how it was with the sound 5. When the sand came to help.
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Old 2007-04-28, 17:50   Link #194
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-Are you being honest with this? Wouldn't a Sharingan make Naruto (the chkara and stamina fiend), I don't know, UBER? He wouldn't even heed to cover it with his protector either. Hey since we are on a roll already I predict that Naruto might actually posses Uchiha Blood in him and will awaken his own Sharingan soon (yeah like Kishimoto would ever allow that to happen)...
Yeah, I can see Naruto with the Sharingod and a little bit of the uchiha gene he'd get even more arrogant calling himself to true heir to the Uchiha thrown! defeating everyone with his mean Genjutsu skills of course being Naruto is superior chakra and stamina he would have no equal...Yondaime eat your heart out.

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Old 2007-04-28, 19:56   Link #195
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Juugo's strength level

Something just occured to me. Juugo claims that Kimimaro was the only person who could control his rampages (through force obviously).

That implies that they are at the same level or Kimi was slightly stronger since he was able to neutralize him while leaving him in one piece.

If that is the case, unless Juugo has gotten alot stronger since then, that would imply that he is at best, equal to Kimimaro who was effectively challenged by Gaara and Lee pre-timeskip.

Both of those characters are much stronger than they used to be while Sasuke is leaps and bounds stronger than that.

So how strong could Juugo be? He has aged along with everyone else but he has been caged up, without evidence that he did any training. Well since they have been experimented on, it would not be a stretch to believe that Oro allowed Juugo and Suigetsu to get some exercize while being monitored, in order to insure that they progressed in power.

I'm guessing that the subordinates in Team Snake are meant to be on the Jounin level, perhaps equal to the likes the strongest characters Naruto's age, such as Lee, Neji and Sai.

They ought to be able to give Kisame trouble 3 on 1 while Sasuke seeks his revenge against Itachi.
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Old 2007-04-28, 22:17   Link #196
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Naruto and Sakura going after Itachi doesn't make any sense for them unless they have Jiraya and Kakashi with them. How can Naruto fight him when all he has done now is getting trapped in Itachi's Genjutsu ?!! There has got to be something he can learn to get out of genjutsu. For me the best scenario is that neithor naruto nor sasuke will be able to kill him, this arc is going to be really great if sakura is the one who kills him cause she wants to repay both of them for always saving her and she wants to end their suffering and help them for once (sakura is originally a genjutsu type) but from her level now i see that is an impossible dream but would have been nice. Also i can smell Orochimaru in this part lol .
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Old 2007-04-28, 23:15   Link #197
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Naruto and Sakura going after Itachi doesn't make any sense for them unless they have Jiraya and Kakashi with them.
Indeed. I think Kakashi going is a given, but if they are smart they will bring along Jiraiya, I mean he is the one that was viewed as being a match for Itachi, infact I think that Kakashi and Jiraiya alone would be a handful for Itachi and Kisame to deal with.



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How can Naruto fight him when all he has done now is getting trapped in Itachi's Genjutsu ?!! There has got to be something he can learn to get out of genjutsu.
Don't forget that Jiraiya taught him how to escape, it's just that he was not strong enough to escape Itachi. And this makes sense, I mean Itachi defeated Orochimaru with one genjutsu. That's the risk any ninja takes in dealing with him.

I think Naruto has done the best he can do to resist an Itachi level genjutsu for now.

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For me the best scenario is that neithor naruto nor sasuke will be able to kill him, this arc is going to be really great if sakura is the one who kills him cause she wants to repay both of them for always saving her and she wants to end their suffering and help them for once (sakura is originally a genjutsu type) but from her level now i see that is an impossible dream but would have been nice.
I think that is just a kind feminine sentiment on her part. We saw how much "help" she was against Sasuke. There is no way she can beat Itachi unless it is a one in a millon fluke and he was softened up by someone else.

I can only hope for Sakura that she is shown to be a legitimate help to the effort and not just the tag along she has always been (the only time she truly played a factor in an important fight she was a human puppet for the ninja doing the real work).

Personally I do not think anyone will beat Itachi in this encounter. People were making predictions for how he would lose in the forest yet it was a total fake out.

Infact my prediction is that:

1. Sasuke's teammates will all die trying to defeat Kisame

2. Sasuke will be beaten by Itachi

3. Some revelation about Sharingan's "secret purpose" will be made

4. Naruto and Co. will interrupt but Itachi and Kisame will leave to conduct Akatsuki business that results in a new arc

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Also i can smell Orochimaru in this part lol .
We can only hope.
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Old 2007-04-29, 00:40   Link #198
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Something just occured to me. Juugo claims that Kimimaro was the only person who could control his rampages (through force obviously).

That implies that they are at the same level or Kimi was slightly stronger since he was able to neutralize him while leaving him in one piece.

If that is the case, unless Juugo has gotten alot stronger since then, that would imply that he is at best, equal to Kimimaro who was effectively challenged by Gaara and Lee pre-timeskip.

Both of those characters are much stronger than they used to be while Sasuke is leaps and bounds stronger than that.

So how strong could Juugo be? He has aged along with everyone else but he has been caged up, without evidence that he did any training. Well since they have been experimented on, it would not be a stretch to believe that Oro allowed Juugo and Suigetsu to get some exercize while being monitored, in order to insure that they progressed in power.

I'm guessing that the subordinates in Team Snake are meant to be on the Jounin level, perhaps equal to the likes the strongest characters Naruto's age, such as Lee, Neji and Sai.

They ought to be able to give Kisame trouble 3 on 1 while Sasuke seeks his revenge against Itachi.
Few things to keep in mind...
First off, Kimimaro's illness... by the time Kimimaro fought with Garra and Lee, he was in the late stages of his illness and thus was suffering from a sever handicap in those fights...(also, it's unknown how long kimimaro has had his illness; since he once a container, it may be rather recent... so most of his encounters with juugo may predate the illness)

Second, while he was challanged garra and lee, garra never actually won that fight... kimimaro died from his illness, had it not been for the illness, kimimaro would have not only killed garra but could have fought some more... right up to his death he showed no signs of slowing down

third, "stopping" juugo's rampages does not nessasarily mean beating Juugo into submission; it may just mean snapping Juugo out of it... One thing we can note about Kimimaro is that his bloodline limit gives him an extremely powerful skeletonal structure, one that is not easy to break and, as we saw agaisnt garra, makes for a great defence... basciall, kimimaro's bloodline, makes it hard to deal any real damage or injury to him; thus how he can go against someone who may be stronger than him, and yet come out of it unharmed
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Old 2007-04-29, 01:25   Link #199
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yeah i also think that sasuke's team mates will die and that sasuke will lose to itachi unless somehow he activated MS and he hasn't revealed it yet, in this arc if Sasuke is not back to his senses and really appreciate what naruto and sakura have been trying to do to him all that time, it is really time for them to give up on him and if he gets in the way Naruto shall fight him to death. I think he will lose and feel worthless that he seeked Orochimaru and did all of this and yet he lost, this is supposed to happen IMO to ensure the path he has taken was wrong, hope Naruto shows a new move or learn to be more skillfull in breaking Genjutsu or he is just gonna be an observer in that fight lol
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Old 2007-04-29, 02:11   Link #200
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Food for thought.

Sai - Has been trained under root and basically brainwashed, has no real emotion.

Purpose - We know he was told to kill Sasuke once...... While he claims he wants to help bring him back, well who knows

Kakashi - Remember his last talk before Sasuke set out with the sounds four.

Purpose - Will be interesting to see they're first confrontation in 2.5 years, he was like a father to Sasuke imo, he took him under his wing, and provided quality training. I'm curios as to how Kakashi feels about everything, his character is awesome as he is often very aloof.

Kabuto - Orochimaru's main man.

Purpose - No one really knows WHY he was so close to orochimaru, but if everything is as we know it to be, then there is perfect reason for him to seek out Akatsuki and Itachi if it will bring him closer to Sasuke and Orochimaru.

Honestly I disllike evey single one of the characters Sasuke has rounded up, espieically Suigetsu. There is no way in hell that he should ever defeat Kisame. Sasuke's group have no real character development and I really think it's about time we see Itachi and Kisame really lay a beat down on this pathetic group. I think they were rounded up just as cannon fodder, so we can really see what Itachi and Kisame are capable of.

Sasuke does not posses the MS sharigan and that is his downfall, while he obtained power in his own way, what good are his jutsu against a fellow copycay ninja. MS is what seperates the two, this 'new found power' of the CS should not be a trumph to MS, espieically since we've seen many shinobi with the CS fall to unlikely opponents. Hell Sasuke killed 50+ on his way to Juuga in less than one caption. I think CS is false advertisment.
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