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^ Best opening is included in best credits. The Best Credits category is not solely limited to best ending theme, hence why three of the four nominations are Openings.
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Admittedly I don't pay much attention to Openings and Endings, so you'll have to forgive me for asking but...is there really that much difference between the two? Or rather a big enough difference that means both deserve their own category? I mean I've seen plenty of anime where they end an episode on a theme that they later use as an Opening.
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2013-02-09, 16:08 | Link #24 | |
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I suggesting that we do separate one for ED and OP. my 2 cent
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2013-02-09, 16:46 | Link #25 |
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I usually put OP and ED together since it is the blend of music with the visuals that I rate first when I nominate a ED and OP. I did it with Ohisama because the cheerful and tongue-in-cheek tone of the song goes very well with the rather surreal school play. Feel so Moon also comes in mind. Oldest example I have in mind for what I mean about blend of visuals and music would be Drivers High, the GTO OP. For 2013, expect me to nominate So no Chi no Sadame, the first OP of JoJo's Bizarre Adventures, and Out of Control, the second OP of Psycho Pass.
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2013-02-09, 17:51 | Link #26 | |
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Anyway, again, this is not meant as a slam against those who worked on this project and made it happen, which I think is great... but just a suggestion if we want to help the project gain more traction this year. I guess we have a while to work on it, anyway. (That aside, I personally do think there would be merit in having separate categories for OP and ED. Then again, I'm the sort of person who basically always watches the openings and endings, so they're a big part of shows to me.)
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2013-02-09, 18:08 | Link #28 |
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Looking at past years it seems the vote count is consistent. There was more last year but it could be because of more big profile shows like Madoka & Steins Gate competing against each other.
As for opening and endings, I think there are enough categories as is so combining it as best credits makes sense to me. That being said I expect openings will always have the advantage since usually more effort is put into opening sequences (there are always exceptions of course). Anyways I like how it's done now. I expect this contest attracts those of us who like to make are own yearly favorite lists on blogs, tumblr, etc. It does take effort but I think the contest is more fun that way.
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2013-02-09, 18:21 | Link #29 | |
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And the nomination phase would honestly be worse with such a format.
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Basically the logistics of counting so many is a nightmare, too much for any sane person to do alone (Ansalem at the time) so at least with this method, with it being a press of a button, the show will go on fairly easily. Quote:
(I do like reading people's thoughts on things though, that come along with the votes, especially in nominations)
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2013-02-09, 18:32 | Link #32 | |
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As for the authentication API to validate the participants... it could be possible. Just need to think about how to program it. For example, we could potentially host a script on the forum server that validates your login credentials (based on the auth cookie) and other criteria (post date, post count, whatever), and then generates a unique key that is sent as part of a redirect to the actual vote page (either in the query string or via HTTP POST). Then the logic on the receiving end could lookup that key to see if that user has voted before, etc. We could sign the requests to ensure authenticity, and so on. Anyway, there are probably ways of doing it that aren't so hard.
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2013-02-09, 18:56 | Link #35 | |
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@Seiji
People would just make bogus accounts 1 week before. Honestly though we just need a user id/name and I can just make a script to verfiy if they have posts using the member list (and find posts feature; since profiles can be disabled). And I'm not going to build anything that handles damn passwords (ever!). Trust me nobody wants to build something that handles passwords from another site, that's how stupid shit happens. Quote:
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In the end, it should be written such that the odds of auth forgery are no more or less possible than they are on the forum itself, so I assume there is a procedure in place. But again, this is only my initial stab at the problem in concept.
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2013-02-09, 19:12 | Link #37 |
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Do you mean this: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=173698 ? If so that's an insite auth API. What would be needed is an offsite auth api.
For example on this site: http://stackoverflow.com/users/login you can login/register with your google account. If you say use google, they are sending a request to google (oauth 2.0 protocol I believe), you login via google, then google sends a request back to the site with your credentials (and various security tokens to confirm no funny business is going on), and you're logged in. You generally don't even have to enter username/password nonsense since you might already be logged in google, so as far as you're concerned you pressed a google button and you're logged in on the account associated with your gmail address. Integrating such a feature is fairly easy these days thanks to things like: http://hybridauth.sourceforge.net/ making a server for it though is a little more technical, you can find some server libraries here: http://oauth.net/2/
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2013-02-09, 20:02 | Link #40 |
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Just a suggestion before adding all these new features to change the contest why not just made a general feedback thread with a poll asking why people didn't participate. You can have categories like
*Too much effort * Was confused how to vote * Didn't like any series nominated * Didn't even watch anime this year *Other please explain in comments. Obviously not everyone is going to give written feedback, but just voting on one of our regular polls seems easy enough, and I would also suggest creating a sticky to make it visible.
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