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Ami in particular adds an interesting dynamic to the story. She plays Satsuki's role in a lot of ways, but in other she's nearly the opposite of her. She's absolutely fascinating. |
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2008-12-04, 05:09 | Link #122 | |
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I think she'll end up quite like Satsuki, too. She's the first who truly realized that there were more than merely fleeting emotions about Ryuuji, and I think she'll also be the first one to do something about it (as if she hasn't started already).
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2008-12-04, 05:27 | Link #123 | |
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At this point though, I'm still wondering how much Ami likes Ryuuji. I think she's still falling for him, but not quite there. She isn't nearly as close to him as Satsuki was to Junpei, and that fake personality of hers makes her a bit hard to read for the viewer, even if we get more insight than Ryuuji does. |
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2008-12-04, 17:27 | Link #125 | |
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2008-12-04, 18:30 | Link #126 |
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On the subject of cowardice in choosing the main heroine in anime adaptations, that's why I really appreciated Shuffle!, despite the fact that it was in some ways kinda formulaic in setup and tropes. Not only could you not determine who the guy would ultimately end up with from the early plot/the first character he bumps into whom he hadn't already met, you couldn't figure it out from the OP or ED, either. (It didn't hurt that Asa was one of the two characters I was rooting for, the other being Sia.) Actually having suspense makes things much more interesting, but Shuffle! and True Tears are about the only series I can think of that actually pulled that off. When you prefer a certain character, but it's blatantly obvious that they're destined to get their heart broken, a show can get to be a bit of a downer.
Which is a roundabout way of saying that I really would like it if JC staff would do something genuinely surprising and have a RyuujiXAmi ending. But I won't hold my breath, because the odds of that happening are much less than 1%. |
2008-12-04, 18:46 | Link #127 |
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Actually since Toradora! is based on a light novel and *not* an date-sim game, it will probably lead where the novel leads... This simply isn't a "choose the girl" story. I'm a bit mystified why people keep comparing series based on light novels to series based on "choose the girl" adventures.
You also might want to view Shuffle! again and watch the first few episodes more closely. Nerine gives it away quite early, along with a few comments and moments from Asa, followed by Asa submarining in quite clearly when that trip/fall into bed happened.
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2008-12-05, 00:15 | Link #128 | |
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So, our interest in a unique ending in a different medium (anime) from the light novel automatically downgrades us to Dating Sim fanboys/girls? |
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2008-12-05, 00:33 | Link #129 |
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I just really don't understand why one would want an anime adaptation of a novel to deviate from the novel that severely.
Did you watch LOTR hoping that Frodo would decide to team up with Sauron? In date-sim games, all paths are viable and it makes some sense to "root for your favorite character" to some extent (though I prefer it be arrived at in some interestingly written way whatever the outcome). yeah, I'd love it if Taiga couples up with Ryuuji, I'd also find it fascinating if each one actually gets what they think they want (Minorin, Kitamura). It'd be intriguing to see how an AmixRyuuji played out. But mostly I want the anime to be an adaptation of the novel - because that's where all the great material comes from.
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2008-12-05, 01:33 | Link #130 | |
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But I guess it's really up to people's stance on whether they want to see the same thing play out (albeit in a different medium) or watch an entirely new thing altogether. A unique experience on one medium will be interesting because it's new. The GREAT thing about Toradora is that the characters are all great on their own, that I could see the story play out in different ways and each be just as amazing as the original. So if there were different paths explored it wouldn't feel like any of the characters were done a disservice to them. |
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2008-12-05, 01:50 | Link #131 |
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I would find "alternate histories" to be interesting --- sometimes I'll come across a doujinshi that equals (or betters) the original mangaka's work. Haven't seen the equivalent in light novels, though with the manga and anime out now - I sure "alternate path" stories are in the works.
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I'm following both the novel and the anime for the first time. It'd be extremely interesting to see both play out in different ways watching them at more or less the same time. I suspect the anime is going to vastly outpace the novels being translated though, considering they've already caught up.
I don't really expect Ami or Minori to end up with Ryuuji, nor do I think the anime will deviate from the novels, aside from the changes JC staff needs to do to make the adaptation from novel to anime. I just think its an interesting possibility if it happened, but I'll be happy with whatever turns out as long as the story and characters continue to be as enertaining as they have been up to this point. |
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2008-12-05, 02:07 | Link #134 |
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There is that problem... JC Staff does not have a good track record when deviating from the source material. However, these days its more instructive to look at the names on the team and what they've done before. I'll admit ignorance on the director and writing staff and what their resumes look like.
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2008-12-05, 02:09 | Link #135 | |
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I'm actually a little bit of both. But with Toradora, it feels like any outcome is legitimate due to the strength of the characters. |
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2008-12-05, 02:19 | Link #136 |
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Well we all saw what happened with the filler episode in the beginning where Taiga totally became Louise. So lets just say that JC Staff will not make it totally original based on their own writing skills. Though the team seems pretty good (no ZnT anime scriptwriters or directors) so far, we already had the taste what they do when being left with their own 'creativity' and it didn't look very good.
But...how is the current point of discussion connected with Ami? |
2008-12-05, 02:23 | Link #137 | |
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2008-12-05, 02:24 | Link #138 |
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None.. .we're offtopic though it went along the track Voitan described ..... back to Ami - she's cuter anyway
The end of ep 10 was full of portent and potential as to whether Ami has conceded the round or the entire match and moves on to a different sort of game (why am I suddenly thinking of Miho in Megatokyo?). And now I lock the novels away so I won't read ahead
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Of course, I've avoided ZnT entirely. Probably because I hate Kugimiya's tsunderes. Yay rabid fandom. So much fun. So much fun. Sunshine lollipops and rainbows. |
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