[Gundam 00F/P/V/I/N] Sidestory Discussion

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

Well,Im not used to Jinx either,Im still unable to mentally program myself for that one,but the thing is in the case of the GN-X,the Jinx is sort of close to the actual spelling,you just prnounce the GNX all in one go and you'll get something close to Jinx,so that one has spell based reasons,its just that they forgo the usual "Gee And" pronouciation of the word GN,normally used in this series.

"Gun Archer" on the other hand,has no letter to make it the apparent pronociation.

I still call it the GN Archer, it's that I don't like "Gun Archer", it's just that I can't get use to it.

[JC...]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

No, that one is still called Double 0, because that sounds cool.

"Jinx" on the other hand, does not.

It's like the GMs are called Jims... sorry if it's against the rules to bring up UC in a 00 thread

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by JC...

It's like the GMs are called Jims... sorry if it's against the rules to bring up UC in a 00 thread

It's funny you mention that, because in the english dub of 0080, Bernie calls a "Jim" a GM.

[Spitfire]

Saying GM as "Jim" still makes more sense to me than a GN-X a "Jinx". If it was spelled GNX, then I could see how calling it a "Jinx" would make sense, but there is a deliberate space between the N and the X, so, at least to me, it just doesn't sound right.

And for me, I've always thought saying it as "G-N-X" has a cool "military" feel to it.

[LoweGear]

Well, in actual practice the military does shorten pronunciations that way. I doubt many people will know what sort of vehicle the term High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) refers to, but they will recognize it if it's called by it's shorter name: the Humvee.

Besides, "Jee-En-Ex" requires three syllables to pronounce, while "Jinx" needs only one, and hence more convenient especially over radio communication.

[GundamMeisterLockon]

won't that jinx the pilot into getting killed by saying jinx ? LOL

[Duo Maxwell]

They can just point at Patrick if anyone asks about that.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Well, in actual practice the military does shorten pronunciations that way. I doubt many people will know what sort of vehicle the term High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) refers to, but they will recognize it if it's called by it's shorter name: the Humvee.

Besides, "Jee-En-Ex" requires three syllables to pronounce, while "Jinx" needs only one, and hence more convenient especially over radio communication.

More convenient for laughter among troops.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

I still call it the GN Archer, it's that I don't like "Gun Archer", it's just that I can't get use to it.

That one,for some reason,I had no trouble getting used to,I guess its because it always made sense to me.

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

More convenient for laughter among troops.

Which actually is a good thing,as it gives them more stuff to soften the tension with.

But I guess I sort of see the one syllable thing that Lowegear mentioned now.I guess it is practical.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Though it being the 1.5 Gundam goes to show more differences in the factions of Celestial Being--namely, the Innovades having a different naming philosophy than the humans.

Spoiler for Gundam Weapons Chart:

[Note: If the picture does not appear, use the direct link below]

http://j.imagehost.org/view/0562/chart1b

This is a Gundam Weapons Chart pic that Homeless posted, I'm not sure which book or source its from yet but it looks new considering the inclusion of the Reborns Origins and 1.5 Gundam.

It seems from this chart, the CB-001 is really a retcon and it the 1 Gundam's current model number.....and now "has always been" its model number.

Also, it stated that the 1.5 Gundam is an offshoot variant of 1 Gundam rather than a midpoint between 1 Gundam and Reborns Gundam. I guess its sort of like 0 Gundam Full Armor and Astraea Type F2, a further later upgrade and developement of the suits with later technology but was not used to develop their successors in any way.

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

From the picture, there seems to be a new variation of Gundam Exia, or rather an improvement of Gundam Avalanche Exia in the form of a unit GN-001/hs-A01D.

[helois]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

From the picture, there seems to be a new variation of Gundam Exia, or rather an improvement of Gundam Avalanche Exia in the form of a unit GN-001/hs-A01D.

maybe is the improvement/modification of the Avalanche Exia 1/144...

[Akuma_Blade]

@Sonic SP

0 Gundam and Astraea F line is crappy, please reupload.

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Wait..

According to the new information, the GN Cannon has the model number "CBY-0077".

Queries:

1. Why the extra zero? Is this a retcon?

2. Unlike 1 Gundam, it retains its "CBY" designation. Why and does it make much of a difference?

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

From the picture, there seems to be a new variation of Gundam Exia, or rather an improvement of Gundam Avalanche Exia in the form of a unit GN-001/hs-A01D.

We were shown additional leg-mounted equipment for the Avalanche Exia earlier. This designation is likely for it, similar to how the Seven Sword equipment + the GN-Sword II Blaster gave the 00 Gundam its own GNHW designation.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Wait..

According to the new information, the GN Cannon has the model number "CBY-0077".

Queries:

1. Why the extra zero? Is this a retcon?

2. Unlike 1 Gundam, it retains its "CBY" designation. Why and does it make much of a difference?

Why does Sunrise retcon anything?

Who the hell knows.

[Hellbore]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Wait..

According to the new information, the GN Cannon has the model number "CBY-0077".

Queries:

1. Why the extra zero? Is this a retcon?

2. Unlike 1 Gundam, it retains its "CBY" designation. Why and does it make much of a difference?

My personal guess is a typo. These Gundam info books are notorious for poor editting, so something like this slipping through is common.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

It's just an extra zero. I doubt it's anything but a small typo.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Wait..

According to the new information, the GN Cannon has the model number "CBY-0077".

Queries:

1. Why the extra zero? Is this a retcon?

Originally Posted by Hellbore

My personal guess is a typo. These Gundam info books are notorious for poor editting, so something like this slipping through is common.

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

It's just an extra zero. I doubt it's anything but a small typo.

Usually yes, but this "typo" was repeated twice. Once in the developement chart, and once more in the Reborns Origin profile.

It should also be noted that these 2 sources also happened to confirm the CB-001 retcon for 1 Gundam, and this CB-001 retcon for the normal 1 Gundam is further supported by an ad of the upcoming 1.5 Gundam kit [which is CB-001.5].

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

2. Unlike 1 Gundam, it retains its "CBY" designation. Why and does it make much of a difference?

I think it may be because they're considered different type of machines, probably a bit like how the GN Archer is a support machine.

For me, I think it may be because the GN Cannon may be deemed by the Innovator faction as "prototypish" in nature. The Y designation as I recall is usually used [someone told me in real life too] by Ptolemaos and even the AEU to usually indicate a prototype-like machine. Either that, or they just want it as a another separate non-Gundam line thats different in some way. [I mean there's already like......a possible 76+ others in there in that same line]

Plus, there is also the fact that the GN Cannon is not a Gundam like 1 Gundam is. So they may find it necessary to classify it with a much different classification. If you think about it, relative to the 1 Gundam's model number, the GN Cannon is in a much more different category. Even before the 1 Gundam's Y got retconned, it had a large digit on it.

The addition of the extra 0 seems fitting here in my opinion, as it further differentiates how the 2 as separate categories of machines. The erasure of the 1 Gundams "Y" and the addition of GN Cannons "0" digit

Compare:

Initial:
CBY-001
CBY-077

Retcon:
CB-001
CBY-0077


See the difference visually? The initial model number looks as if the machines are in the same category, like 1 Gundam is the first in a line while GN Cannon was the 77th of the same line.

But the new retcon seems to make them seem different, category wise. This is because GN Cannon no longer shares the same starter letters and has an extra 0 digit added. Its like a different category so to speak. I'm guessing that the series handlers just wants them to feel more different in category in each other than before, it also sort of fits the fact that one of them is a Gundam and one of them is not.

For the moment, all the "CB" designation seems to be only been used in Gundams, they probably wanted to include 1 Gundam and 1.5 Gundam in that mix while further differentiating with GN Cannon at the same time. [CB-0000G/C Reborns Gundam, CB-001 1 Gundam, CB-001.5 1.5 Gundam and CB-002 Raphael Gundam]

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Thank you all for your feedback,

Another query,

Why "77" for GN Cannon?