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Old 2010-09-18, 14:48   Link #181
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Same might have to invest. Could do with a game to pass the time. Have to keep an eye out for the steam sales.
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Old 2010-09-18, 14:52   Link #182
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I'm giving free candy for the loli, lolz.
Please don't tell me you want to give them free -chocolate bars- too!

You know, you should be glad that the game doesn't have town sheriffs or police equivalents. Your shop would get closed down for suspicious activity.
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Old 2010-09-18, 15:15   Link #183
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Please don't tell me you want to give them free -chocolate bars- too!

You know, you should be glad that the game doesn't have town sheriffs or police equivalents. Your shop would get closed down for suspicious activity.
Doubtful, they seem to be lacking child labor laws afterall.
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Old 2010-09-18, 15:24   Link #184
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Please don't tell me you want to give them free -chocolate bars- too!

You know, you should be glad that the game doesn't have town sheriffs or police equivalents. Your shop would get closed down for suspicious activity.

this is the middle ages, anything is legal as long as the appropriate people are payoff.
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Old 2010-09-18, 15:38   Link #185
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Please don't tell me you want to give them free -chocolate bars- too!

You know, you should be glad that the game doesn't have town sheriffs or police equivalents. Your shop would get closed down for suspicious activity.
...except it's a loli giving candy to the loli.
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Old 2010-09-18, 18:42   Link #186
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i just had several customer (young man) asking fro weapons and then say it was too much even when i went below 20% markup. That after serveral had purchase weapons above the 25% markup.

am i charging too much or is it they just can afford it.

Same thing with the fairy, several items he ask for i went 15% to 10% and he still i say charge too much.

edit: try it with no markup and they still i say i am too expensive.

so whats going on?

currently 2nd week lvl5.
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Old 2010-09-18, 20:33   Link #187
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Been playing my game since I bought it last night. So far day 16, I beat Tielle last night with Charme not sure why people say Charme is weak against her I didn't have that much problems just used Flame rush thing to dodge if anything was going to hit me. Also ran into Nagi three times so far I have to run into her 4 times right before she'll visit the shop?

Also just a general judge on how I'm doing, day 16 I'm at 57k and next payment is 80 and I still have the whole week before that comes. Going to try to get to 200k before 80k is due.
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Old 2010-09-18, 23:33   Link #188
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I guess I should jump on the bandwagon. Anyone know the how the sales of this game went?
At one point it out-sold Civilization 5 (though that didn't last long, as Steam seems to track revenue generated more than number of actual sales). That's pretty good for an indie game that got most of its exposure through word-of-mouth. It's worth every penny though.
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Old 2010-09-19, 01:37   Link #189
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Yeah it's been fun so far. Quick question and I can't find an answer for it, if I get a true card for nagi and then choose endless mode to get armah's true card too. Would that mean I'd start with both of them in a new game?

Honestly it seems like the biggest trick to get lots of money is to save a lot and then reload if certain things don't sell during inflation periods. Had an inflation on weapons and had 3 of the 25k+ weapons in my window and just was reloading until 2/3 sold, easy 150k for that day...
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Old 2010-09-19, 01:47   Link #190
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i just had several customer (young man) asking fro weapons and then say it was too much even when i went below 20% markup. That after serveral had purchase weapons above the 25% markup.

am i charging too much or is it they just can afford it.

Same thing with the fairy, several items he ask for i went 15% to 10% and he still i say charge too much.

edit: try it with no markup and they still i say i am too expensive.

so whats going on?

currently 2nd week lvl5.
You have to butter up each character over time (build the relationship). So start out selling at whatever price point gives you those blue "near pins" (usually around 108% but varies by character) and then you can slowly ramp up til the handsome man and the guild master are happily paying you 135% and more on normals.

Basically, there's a hidden "relationship" value. You know you're doing really well with them when they start having a "heart" speech bubble on a sale completion. Each character has different comfort levels, both initially and what they'll max out at being willing to pay.

The fairy (she's a girl... just slender) is really tight with her money ... you actually need to start off at 90-100% to win her over.
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Old 2010-09-19, 02:14   Link #191
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You have to butter up each character over time (build the relationship). So start out selling at whatever price point gives you those blue "near pins" (usually around 108% but varies by character) and then you can slowly ramp up til the handsome man and the guild master are happily paying you 135% and more on normals.

Basically, there's a hidden "relationship" value. You know you're doing really well with them when they start having a "heart" speech bubble on a sale completion. Each character has different comfort levels, both initially and what they'll max out at being willing to pay.

The fairy (she's a girl... just slender) is really tight with her money ... you actually need to start off at 90-100% to win her over.
Here is the rank of the characters who are willing to pay $$ :

1. Alouette (YEAH, rich girl!)
2. Guildmaster
3. Young Man
4. Obaa-chan
5. Loli
6. Prime

Adventurers are arbitary, Louie once bought a $46,800 demonbane from me, marked up 130%.

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Doubtful, they seem to be lacking child labor laws afterall.
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this is the middle ages, anything is legal as long as the appropriate people are payoff.
Child labour does not include entrepreneurship I think. It is called self-employment.

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...except it's a loli giving candy to the loli.
I was hoping it would go further than that, with Recette going, "Come! Let onee-chan give you a bath!"

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i just had several customer (young man) asking fro weapons and then say it was too much even when i went below 20% markup. That after serveral had purchase weapons above the 25% markup.

am i charging too much or is it they just can afford it.

Same thing with the fairy, several items he ask for i went 15% to 10% and he still i say charge too much.

edit: try it with no markup and they still i say i am too expensive.

so whats going on?

currently 2nd week lvl5.
Each NPC has a spending limit, supposedly the highest is the Obaa-san who can spend up to $3,500 at the start. The loli has the lowest budget at $600.

You can increase your percentage profit as long as it stays within their budget. Sell cheaper goods to them when they make pre-orders so as to mark up your relationships, I still have not tested how much increase in budget per relationship level for each NPC.

Your adventurers are different. Once you get their True cards, they seem to have over $10k budget each.
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2010-09-19, 03:08   Link #192
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i just had several customer (young man) asking fro weapons and then say it was too much even when i went below 20% markup. That after serveral had purchase weapons above the 25% markup.

am i charging too much or is it they just can afford it.

Same thing with the fairy, several items he ask for i went 15% to 10% and he still i say charge too much.

edit: try it with no markup and they still i say i am too expensive.

so whats going on?

currently 2nd week lvl5.
When they choose the item on their own, they are able to afford it, but when they ask for your opinion (like, need a book, weapon, etc.), then you'll have to estimate their budget and choose appropriated item within their budget. As the relationship (or reputation toward them) raise, their budget also increases, so keep that in mind and always stock cheap stuffs in your shop just in case.
I learned it the hard way through our precious loli .

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Same thing with the fairy, several items he ask for i went 15% to 10% and he still i say charge too much.
Is there any male fairy in the game?
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Old 2010-09-19, 10:01   Link #193
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Oddly enough, I've never EVER found any kind of drop related to Arma yet. I know she's only accessible after one finishes the Lapis Ruins, but it's still odd, especially since you pretty have to make her equippable parts on your own.

Also LOL. I was expecting some sort of tie-in with fellow EasyGameStation game Chantelise, but nothing spotted so far.
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Old 2010-09-19, 10:05   Link #194
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Is there any male fairy in the game?
He is referring to Prime.
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2010-09-19, 11:07   Link #195
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It's a strange name for a female fairy, but given the fact that the setting is based on France, it's probably pronounced 'pree-meh'.
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Old 2010-09-19, 14:29   Link #196
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finally, made last payment and have 774k left over time to spend some on the shop.
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Old 2010-09-19, 14:42   Link #197
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Capitalism, ho!

Game is huge fun. I was kicked back to Day 1 because I couldn't make the 80,000 payment, but merchant xp and perks stay, along with all the equipment found in the dungeon, so it'll be a lot easier to earn it this time around.
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Old 2010-09-19, 14:53   Link #198
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Is there any actual benefit to not having more then one loop or is it just a bragging right's thing.
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Old 2010-09-19, 14:57   Link #199
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Just a self-imposed challenge, like low-level runs of RPGs or 1CCs of danmaku games.
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Old 2010-09-19, 15:48   Link #200
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Griff's boss fight is really annoying. I think I mgiht have to get Nagi better equipment because he was doing 40-50 damage each attack...
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