Infinite Stratos - General Discussion

[RRW]

Originally Posted by zephyr325

Here's the answer.

Spoiler for Warning!! contains spoiler from novel.:

A1.
The reason why only female can activate IS (and why Ichika is the only male who can activate IS) is currently unknown.

But it is hinted in the novel that Sinonono Tabane, the creator of IS, did not deliberately configure IS to be female-only platform.
She mentions that it was a accidental side-effect, and since she didn't really care about that factor, she didn't see any reason to bother with it.




A2.
I think you are talking about the incident where Ichika was kidnapped.
(the Chinese character for Ichika contains 夏, which also means summer)

He was kidnapped by a unknown organization during the last phase of 2nd Mondo Grosso.
(It is later revealed that the 'unknown organization' was actually 'Fallen Nation Corps'.)

Since Chihuyu was the champion of 1st Mondo Grosso, she was a very high profile personnel.
Chihuyu earned the titled 'The strongest woman in the world' by winning 1st Mondo Grosso, so any direct attack on her would have been suicidal.
So, Ichika(who was just an ordinary boy), being the only blood-relative of Chihuyu, would have been her only weakness and thus a natural target to harm Chihuyu.

He was kidnapped just before the final match of 2nd Mondo Grosso, and Chihuyu was one of the finalist. With her previous record, almost everyone betted on her victory.

Since she was such high-profile figure, her every movement was being monitored by various military/intelligence agencies, and the German military happened to be the first to discover the kidnapping of Ichika, so they immediately notified Chihuyu of the incident.

And Chihuyu ended up forfeiting the match and went to rescue Ichika, literally flying(by using IS) to where he was being held, and succeeded in rescuing him.

In that way, she ended up being in debt to Germans, so she worked as IS instructor for German military for a year.




A3.
Germany possess strong IS force, but not so much to threaten the balance in Europe.
German itself is lagging behind in 3rd Gen. IS development, experiencing some difficulty with pushing 3rd Gen. test-type IS (Schwarz Regen) into production phase.

The part about 'strongest military' is not about Germany as a nation, but it's special force unit, Schwarz Hase (Black Rabbit)
If I'm not mistaken, Gemany has total of 10 ISs, and 3 of them are assigned to this unit. That basically means Schwarz Hase has 30% of the total national military power, making it the most powerful single-unit entity in Germany.




A4
First, correction here.
Live and Cherry -> Kurezakura
Russian IS -> Mysterious Lady
Nobody IS -> Unmanned IS

Kurezakura is Chihuyu's 2nd personal IS.
(The 1st personal IS for Chihuyu was the legendary White Knight)
Since the White Knight was used up as R&D material according to Alaska Treaty, she needed a new IS, and Sinonono Tabane provided a new IS for Chihuyu.

She used Kurezakura for quite a long time, winning the 1st Mondo Grosso and probably until becoming the finalist in 2nd Mondo Grosso.
The current whereabout of Kurezakura (both the frame and the core) is unknown.


Mysterious Lady is a Russian made IS, probably 3rd Gen. type.
It is the personal IS for Sarashiki Tatenashi, the student council president for IS Academy
(In IS Academy, the strongest student earns the title of student council president, so that means she is the strongest among the current students)
It features nanomachine-controlled water molecule stored in various part of fuselage, which allows the IS to practically control any nearby water.
Externally, it has small coverage by physical armor, but the IS can project layers of water and wrap itself around to form effective shield.

In a confined environment, the IS could project the water as thin mist and trigger steam explosion on target that comes in contact with the mist.


Unmanned IS is first show in the last part of vol.1 in novel, appearing as a hostile IS that attacks Ichika.

By its principle, IS must have a human pilot to be active. So the existence of unmanned IS is quite new. It is speculated that either some organization has the advanced technology to activate IS without pilot input (true automation) or has technology to remotely control IS (with pilot placed elsewhere)
It is speculated that the latter theory is more likely, since the former theory would negate the principal setting of IS - that only female could activate it.

You miss last question

for Q 1 i speculate that actually IS can be used Both female AND male. but Tabane configure it to female only (possibly she lie about that she not manually change it) since male tend more dangerous and more likely start the war. Ichika was only one that can use it because he is Chihuyu's bother and "nice guy" arc type.

So What country is most advance in IS technology other than japan?

[zephyr325]

Originally Posted by rrw

You miss last question

for Q 1 i speculate that actually IS can be used Both female AND male. but Tabane configure it to female only (possibly she lie about that she not manually change it) since male tend more dangerous and more likely start the war. Ichika was only one that can use it because he is Chihuyu's bother and "nice guy" arc type.

So What country is most advance in IS technology other than japan?

Answer for your questions.

BTW, I added the answer for last question in the previous post.

Spoiler for ..:

Well, since the side-effect part is mentioned in narration(directly to reader), not in dialogue(talking to other character), I'd think it is true. She could lie to other character, but it would be rude to lie to the reader directly...

However, she seems to know why Ichika is able to activate IS.
(This part she says to Chihuyu, that she doesn't know why Ichika can activate IS. Because this part is in dialogue, I'd say that she could be liying)


As for which country is the strongest.... I dunno. Not all countries, even the information about all 21 nations of Mondo Grosso is not mentioned here, so information is sketchy at best.

It is hinted that Italia is quite strong since it probably won 2nd Mondo Grosso.
(Actually Chihuyu would have won again, but she resigned in the final match)
the Italian IS - Tempest - in IS-VS is described as a powerful IS.

The members of European Union - UK, German, Italia etc... - are all about equally powerful.
At least UK, German, Italia is field-testing their own 3rd Gen. ISs.

UK has Blue Tears (bits), German has Schwarz Regen (AIC) and Italia has Tempest Mk.II(?)


America(USA) doesn't seem to have independent 3rd Gen. IS yet(no info as of now) but the military grade IS - Silverior Gospel would probably pass as a powerful 3rd Gen. IS
(It's developed jointly with Israel, but it is also undergoing preliminary field test in military, so it could be in the step of entering production phase.)

Russia probably has its own 3rd Gen. IS - It's not confimed whether Mysterious Lady is actually 3rd Gen. IS. But I'd think it is because it is equipped with special weaponry.
(The basic concept of 3rd Gen. IS is application of special weaponry that acts as the basis for IS design)

China also has its own 3rd Gen. IS, Senron, equipped with demension-manupilating Shock Cannon.


Japan has its own 3rd Gen. IS, which is Byakku Shiki.
It is actually a 3rd Gen. IS with 4th Gen. weaponry, but because the weapons became 4th Gen. spec after being modified by Tabane herself, Japan doesn seem to have the technology necessary to develop 4th Gen. IS.

However, it can't stop them from studing Byakku Shiki (because the IS is basically theirs) and learn the concept and knowhow of 4t Gen. technology.
(And other countries can't examine Byakku Shiki because it is inside IS Academy)
So in that sense, Japan is a step ahead of every other nation in the world in terms of technology.


Among the newest ISs, Houki's AkiTsubaki is actually the most powerful IS, because it is the first and only true 4th Gen. IS, built by Sinonono Tabane.

The problem is that Houki dosn't belong to any organization or country
Technically, she is Japanese citizen, but because she received AkiTsubaki from Tabane, not from goverment of Japan, Japanese government can't simply declare the ownership of the only 4th Gen. IS in the world - All other countries and organizations wouldn't allow it.

Also, nobody want to mess with Houki because she is the sister of Tabane.
Who knows what Tabane would do if some countries tried to abduct her or something...

So, the ownership of Houki's AkiTsubaki currently remains vacant (practically belonging to Houki, which is an unprecedented event), and since she is a student of IS Academy, and because IS Academy is immune to any jurisdiction(according to Alaska Treaty) the Academy is currently holding at least a partial responsibility and right to manage the IS.

[RRW]

Originally Posted by zephyr325

Answer for your questions.

BTW, I added the answer for last question in the previous post.

Spoiler for ..:

It is hinted that Italia is quite strong since it probably won 2nd Mondo Grosso.
(Actually Chihuyu would have won again, but she resigned in the final match)
the Italian IS - Tempest - in IS-VS is described as a powerful IS.

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So you have IS/VS video game? it is good?

Or it is fictional?

either THANK YOU SO MUCH for big information

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by rrw

So you have IS/VS video game? it is good?

Or it is fictional?

either THANK YOU SO MUCH for big information

It's fictional silly. But great to see another fan around these parts

[RRW]

i found bit more about the illustrator: okiura

he or she is my favourite mecha musume artist. S/he also seem to be fan of nanoha, Haruhi, and other moe anime along with mecha one like gundam and code geass.

those how want to see his work

here Press hangar to see more illustration

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[Kleeyook]

So women believe that men are the cause to war hmm!? What about the amazons, mama bears, violent women!?
The reason why men cause wars is simply because it's male that dominates the world as of now. Wars will exist as long as there is ...... life in the world.
All living organisms need to struggle for their life, bacteria cause illness to others, predators and preys, male animals fight against each other to claim the female animals to mate, human killing animal to eat (or because they want to, but spiders that don't eat human still kill humans right?) and the stereotypical, hatred.

Gundam pilots are hopeless to eliminate wars. Conflict will always exist, and war is just another form of it. The solutions to end wars? There's two of them.
A: Destroy all lives!
B: Control all life forms with something like mind control like computer. That's a living hell imho though.

Why can't anyone just understand something as easy as this anyway!? War and conflict are the same. People (and same to non-humans) will always suffer because of conflict. The thing is that the damage from conflicts can be reduced to naught (not with some though). That's the best thing we can do.

So screw the thinking that men cause wars!

[SoFarGone]

so how many episodes are there going to be? I'm guessing 24-26.

[Midonin]

You might want to cut that number in half.

[SoFarGone]

12 or 13? Well thats a disappointment. Mecha series with harem cast with only 12 or 13 episodes seem short to me.

[Midonin]

There's only five light novels' worth of material, and ~13 episodes isn't necessarily bad. There's still a lot that can be accomplished in that span of time.

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Kleeyook

So women believe that men are the cause to war hmm!? What about the amazons, mama bears, violent women!?
The reason why men cause wars is simply because it's male that dominates the world as of now. Wars will exist as long as there is ...... life in the world.
All living organisms need to struggle for their life, bacteria cause illness to others, predators and preys, male animals fight against each other to claim the female animals to mate, human killing animal to eat (or because they want to, but spiders that don't eat human still kill humans right?) and the stereotypical, hatred.

Gundam pilots are hopeless to eliminate wars. Conflict will always exist, and war is just another form of it. The solutions to end wars? There's two of them.
A: Destroy all lives!
B: Control all life forms with something like mind control like computer. That's a living hell imho though.

Why can't anyone just understand something as easy as this anyway!? War and conflict are the same. People (and same to non-humans) will always suffer because of conflict. The thing is that the damage from conflicts can be reduced to naught (not with some though). That's the best thing we can do.

So screw the thinking that men cause wars!

As I said, this series at heart is published by MF Bunko J, so it has a certain "Fighting Bishoujo" feel when it allows it, remember the serialization also published Kampfer and Zero no Tsukaima. IS isn't any different from other MF Bunko J series really, just one of the few with a strong mecha theme to it.

[Kleeyook]

I guess the reason why there are less male is because most MALE audience in Japan prefer ecchi theme and afraid of shounen-ai possibility so they cut off. We don't have to worry about those rotten fujoushi but instead we got a crappy show with almost no substance.
But Zero no Tsukaima still has much more important male figures. Kämpfer is another thing though, pure fan-service.

[Kagura89]

Originally Posted by Kleeyook

I guess the reason why there are less male is because most MALE audience in Japan prefer ecchi theme and afraid of shounen-ai possibility so they cut off. We don't have to worry about those rotten fujoushi but instead we got a crappy show with almost no substance.
But Zero no Tsukaima still has much more important male figures. Kämpfer is another thing though, pure fan-service.

>Less male audience
>Japan prefer ecchi theme and afraid of shounen-ai
>Rotten fujoushi
>Zero no Tsukaima still has much more important male figures

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN.JPG

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Kagura89

>Less male audience
>Japan prefer ecchi theme and afraid of shounen-ai
>Rotten fujoushi
>Zero no Tsukaima still has much more important male figures

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN.JPG

I sorta agree, but I do find it odd that the casts in Light Novels for boys (At least MF Bunko J) is so lopsided that it is not funny at all. I want more light novels to be about mecha (not just mecha musume which uses cute girls to drive the concept foward) or adventures without a huge harem of girls. Maybe I am just stuck in the 90's or something when the main character didnt had more girls as their friends than guys

[Mizuno]

It's totally ok. That's a trend I can live with.

[asaqe]

And a taste of Crimrose Lin Yin Version. Also, Zephyr, is this illustration supposed to show Lin Yin's openess to skinship with Ichika?

Somewhat NSFW

Spoiler for NSFW:

[SoFarGone]

^Is she taking a bath with the main character or is that just the shadow of herself?

[asaqe]

That's Ichika

[Kagura89]

Originally Posted by asaqe

I sorta agree, but I do find it odd that the casts in Light Novels for boys (At least MF Bunko J) is so lopsided that it is not funny at all. I want more light novels to be about mecha (not just mecha musume which uses cute girls to drive the concept foward) or adventures without a huge harem of girls. Maybe I am just stuck in the 90's or something when the main character didnt had more girls as their friends than guys

Frankly what i mean in my last post is my reaction of Kleeyook immature response

But yeah need more mecha/action-oriented light novel that not having huge harem of girls & more balanced number of cast (Also male casts aren't so retard or look like an idiot). Durarara,Densetsu Yuusha no Densetsu,BakaTest and etc. is one of few light novels that have balanced casts.
Personally i don't mind harem as long as it well done but i more prefer a story that lead character have one or two love interests and one of the male lead friend/secondary lead have his own love interests.

[MisaoFan]

Because there's a moe boom crisis, there's many manga/anime/light novels featuring females as main characters like Queen's Blade, so there's less male audience, the sub characters have less importants moments than heroines.