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Perfect 10 | 25 | 36.76% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 24 | 35.29% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 22.06% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 5.88% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-01, 00:32 | Link #21 | |
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2013-02-01, 01:46 | Link #23 | |
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And we probably know which Urobuchi character was also a devoted utilitarian. (Makishima of course also shares that character's "ends justify the means" philosophy.) I guess Gen has a bit of a beef with utilitarianism. |
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2013-02-01, 05:39 | Link #24 | |
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You don't need a large police force, just a small one for the odd rare event. It's down to financial considerations, I reckon. Good to see a Philip K. Dick reference. |
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2013-02-01, 06:01 | Link #25 | |
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Well it doesn't really... uh... fulfill the exact definition, but considering how the people are aware that they're every move and emotion is observed by some pseudo-omniscient observer based on an unknown location, it's similar to the Panopticon in that respect. But it's this similarity that really brings to light one of the darker themes of the show: that it's entirely possible that the entire reason that crime and malevolent intentions in the society are eliminated entirely through fear anf not by trust in the system. It becomes increasingly clear that the dark intentions that can easily spring forth from the hearts of men are merely suppressed in the human heart due to fear of an ever present power that can exact its justice by its ability to see into your... mind, and you don't know where or how to fight back. But when the mighty observer, judge, jury and executioner loses its ability to observe and to judge, it can no longer be the jury and the executioner. Thus the fear is gone, and the hearts of darkness are unleashed.
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2013-02-01, 07:06 | Link #26 | |
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But that's not saying much, seeing most things that happens in this show so far can be boil down to those 2 purposes... |
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2013-02-01, 08:56 | Link #27 |
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Makishima and Gu Seung are fantastic antagonists. I agree with Vicious108 on their dialogue and chemistry - Very compelling. Listening in on the conversations of those two was honestly my favorite part of the episode. I loved how Gen made the two chaos-creating revolutionaries sound like two of the most normal and well-adjusted people in the world!
And Makishima's overall plan here is very good and very impressive. The "helmet people" causing a riot, and the police responding to that by sending everyone out to stop the riots, were reasonable educated guesses on Makishima's part. Then in the midst of such chaos, he takes aim at his true target - Very smart strategy, tactics, and plan. The episode as a whole was gripping and intense. Very exciting and enjoyable to watch. And an awesome cliffhanger to end it all off on! However, I do have some quibbles with this arc. Those I'll get into once I have more time to spare than I do right now. But for now, I simply applaud this episode and the people behind it (BGM and visuals were very smooth and effective here too).
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2013-02-01, 09:18 | Link #28 |
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Sibyl has a throughput & computing power not possible with their current technology,...and the heart of sibyl is concentrated on one place, which is really bad security wise... wahhh is the DIRECTOR Sibyl !!! ....and Akane is the next in line, if the director dies.... whew what a thought...wonder if it 's true.
soi guess Makishima's not really that perfect it's the partner who's the genius, makishima's talent(?) just made it possible to do their plan. Philip K. Dick! yeah sci-fi ! lot's of his work been turned to film too, Blade Runner's my fave... NO wonder episode 1 felt like Blade Runner when I watched it way back William Gibson ! cyberspace!> that's even before the great Internet of today Neuromancer was a good book. of course most literate people knows George Orwell and his 1984... whew nice reference..
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2013-02-01, 09:18 | Link #29 | |
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He is a perfectly expendable character if Gen wants to torture our heroes again. I hope not because Kagari is a funny guy to have around.
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2013-02-01, 10:35 | Link #30 | |
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2013-02-01, 10:43 | Link #31 |
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Gu sung and Makishima's conversation was the best scene in this episode. It was very compelling. Nice to see some intellectual villains.
Makishima's plan to take down Sibyl was well thought-out. Too bad for him Kogami managed to see thought it. I cannot help but root for Makishima on some level this time, since I am not a big proponent of the Sibyl system. Everything fell apart so easily this week.
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2013-02-01, 11:28 | Link #32 | ||
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On one hand, yeah, but on the other hand I also imagine that Makishima will be pleased to see his new prospect can continue to think like him with such ease and efficiency. All the more potential for him to try and bring out Kougami's own heart of darkness. |
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2013-02-01, 11:33 | Link #33 |
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Based on the quick Makishima smirk at the end of the ep, he might have already devised that Kogami would have perceived his plan, as the 1st ep show he was waiting for him...
And for the fun theory, if Sibyl is linked to the director and the latter die, I guess "someone with a stable mind" might take the lead at the end madoka-style... |
2013-02-01, 11:38 | Link #34 |
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So, the Sybil-System is crumbling away, ahahaha so surprising...considering that huge flaw that only device that masks your brain is enough to bypass it and the fact that there are no police force anymore.
As i said before, you can't deny the true nature of the majority of human, which is violent. |
2013-02-01, 12:31 | Link #35 |
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The helmet trend is spreading...
Once again criminals are taking over the streets. So much for their precious Sybil system. Makishima is truly a genius, too bad he's so evil.. Wonder is he wants just chaos, of the removal of Sybil system as well. Looks like it's the latter. Great episode!
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2013-02-01, 15:23 | Link #37 |
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So it seems like this whole helmet thing has been less a part of some kinda master plan on Makishima's part, and more of him indulging in the * interests* of one of his killers. The only difference is that this has been on a larger scale than his previous engagements. The main goal of the helmet riots has largely been as a distraction to get the apparently EXTREMELY paltry law enforcement manpower* away from the building that they believe ins housing Sybill. One certainly must wonder what reasons went behind building a blatant integrated super compute in one place.
*I'm not entirely sure that the crisis that unfolded with the riots is really a sign that average person under the Sybill system is a sheep. It certainly didn't take long at all for common citizens to start fighting back against the spree killers...FAR sooner than the police. And frankly I don't think the reason for that is because of the helmets. Not when you have facial recognition software that could identify groups of helmeted people, along with citizens growing recognition of the threat and calling the police. Frankly it looks like they just didn't have enough security personnel to go in and knock heads. Which brings a question to mind. What if instead of helmets, Makishima had outfitted all these people with guns (very simple mechanical tools compared to the electronic helmets)? The CID lacks the manpower or tactical organization and training to deal with protracted shootouts. Frankly I'm a bit amazed that a state security apparatus this weak hasn't fallen apart yet. Makishima is less of a genius, and more of a wizard. He's kinda like the Joker, in that he can materialize expendable homicidal maniacs out of nowhere.
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2013-02-01, 15:47 | Link #40 | ||
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Makishima is kinda right in calling the Sybil system a bit of a parody dystopia. It's totalitarian in nature, but has virtually no effective means of internal security/suppression. A dozen criminals with rifles or shotguns running around in the open would represent a near existential threat to society. Quote:
If nothing else, stronger internal security capable of actually getting into fights would be a national security issue. There's not much point to having an army if a dozen infiltrating terrorist commandos are essentially an unstoppable force.
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