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EDIT: Page claimed for annoying Anti-Magic inconsistency xDU.
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2011-02-04, 13:18 | Link #62 |
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Eh, I've found the anti-magic to be pretty consistent. It's seems quite clear to me that de-linking a spell takes focus, and when it happens, it forces the magic particles apart.
That fits with everything seen so far, including the ice berg. Hayate has a lot of power, so it's interesting that with enough power, you can begin to counter an Eclipse person; it's simply a matter of power vs. power. Who is stronger? Also, who is smarter? The big iceberg may have been broken apart, but Hayate quickly forced the magic particles back and reorganized it into many pieces, making it much, much harder to deal with. That apparently forced Karen to attack Hayate and break her concentration. The only thing that bothers me, is that Hayate should have had time to have the pieces attack the Huck's ship. After Karen breaks up the big one, she goes after Erio and Vita first, and then Hayate. While Karen was going after Erio and Vita, Hayate should have time to have the pieces attack, unless Karen is really freakin' fast. Then again, it is hard to tell time in a manga, heh. |
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--- Regarding Heimdall, I think Hayate should've used the force her magic to gather nearby rocks and other solid object before reaching the ocean and fling them on the enemy ship; she won't have to worry about the Hucks AMF-ing the projectiles, while using Heimdall she must also maintain her magically generated iceberg.
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2011-02-04, 13:36 | Link #64 | |
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Carim also mentioned that RF6 would have to succeed in cases after the Relics case to survive, back during the Train incident. Though she might have been referring to the prophecy. Back to the previous discussion Quote:
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Assuming ten years service in the US Army, it isn't unusual to have reached Major. So she's only one rank high. British Army I understand has different limits and Lt Colonel might be theoretically possible in 10 years. It might be better if she was a Major but it isn't more than a grade out. And the Imperial Japanese Military [to name an example that might have influenced the writers] had a policy that officers decorated for conspicuous gallantry could be excused a time in grade requirement and end up a rank [or possibly more] ahead of where the usual restrictions would place them. Of course TSAB as we know has a rule that limits recognition of that sort to units. |
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2011-02-04, 15:22 | Link #66 | |
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I KNEW she'd get in the way somehow. And if I was Karen, I'd just have ignored Vita and Erio altogether and stabbed Hayate in a way that'd make sure she'd die unless she received treatment immediately. If they want to keep firing uselessly while their CO bleeds out, then that's their business. |
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2011-02-04, 15:23 | Link #67 | |
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Plus, like I said Signum set her sword on fire. That's pretty much screams "I'm gonna attack you now." Who attacked first isn't clear and not really relevant anyways. And it's Cypha, not Cypher.
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2011-02-05, 09:30 | Link #69 | |
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Hayate herself decided to disband it when she admitted she wasn't ready. |
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2011-02-05, 12:09 | Link #71 | |
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Because Hayate herself discloses the real reason for RF6 to Nanoha and Fate, when carim's powers are explained: it was to deal with her prophecy, which sees things that happen up to a year into the future. 1 year; sound familiar? Exactly how long RF6 was scheduled to last. At the beginning of StrikerS with the airport fire and the girls are laying in bed, Hayate gives her speech about wanting a command of her own, one that can rapidly respond to incidents. By this point, they had several encounters with gadget drones seeking relics, and so officially, she was allowed her experimental unit (which had an unbelievable amount of mage power) to be formed with the official purpose of dealing with the Relic Lost Logia cases. Hayate figured it was interconnected with Carim's prophecy and the cyborg incident, and the fact that they had found abandoned labs. Something was going on, and Hayate made a lot of educated guesses to get her official reason for RF6 to exist. As Genya said, "That's one smart little girl." |
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2011-02-05, 13:11 | Link #72 |
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I think the '1 year' time limit isn't important, since Riot Force 6 was in the making for 4 years before it was actually put together.
It was only meant to deal with the Relic Case/Carim's prophesy, but the Admirals were backing it as a trial basis to see how an elite unit outside the chain of command would function.
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2011-02-05, 13:12 | Link #73 | |
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It's also not a reason that was possible when hayate talked about it to nanoha/fate earlier on, nor is it the reason she had the support of the harlaown. When Hayate gives briefing about the goals of RF6, it is not just about Jail, but about the need for a fast moving team to go against LL in many different places. Hayate canonically managed to do that with the help of the prophecy coming just at the right time, but she tried from a while before, and it's *also* Canon that it was her choice, and only her choice, to have RF6 disband. |
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2011-02-05, 22:59 | Link #79 |
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I might be wrong, but could it have to be with the StrikerS manga, second(or third)-to-last chapter? I remember Hayate "going racoon" when she was told by... someone she was being a headache because of her actions (first getting to command RF6 and now, after eveything happened and having proved herself, wanted to stop too get more experience).
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