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2013-06-29, 10:42 | Link #29162 |
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The article about Japan didn't talk about consumers going into debt either. It simply said that people at the top of the income distribution were once again starting to spend on luxury items. If anything the article suggested this consumption was being funded by increased bonuses and the recovery of the Japanese stock market. You're the one who brought up consumer debt.
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Meaning, if the government was to simply ignore the debt and pretend it doesn't exist, only ones hurting are the Japanese people themselves. In fact, if the Japanese government was to try and PAY this debt, which is obviously impossible since it's higher than the GDP, is to tax people. Yeah. That's right. Only way to pay the Japanese people back is to take money from them and then pay the debt. Which obviously accomplishes nothing. America on the other hand.... owes a lot of people money. And I don't mean the Americans.
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2013-06-29, 17:12 | Link #29165 | |
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One reason is that foreign banks and governments prefer to hold US debt over that of other countries. In fact, given the negative real rates currently attached to US debt securities, foreign countries are effectively paying the US to hold their money for them. This has been true for some time.
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2013-06-29, 18:50 | Link #29166 |
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FYI, We Just Won a War in the Philippines
Did you know the U.S. was at war in the Philippines?: "In February this year Aquino visited the rebel stronghold in Mindanao to finalize a peace deal. The treaty promised to finally deprive terrorists of their safe haven in the Philippines. With the signing of the peace deal, America could tentatively claim victory in its Philippines shadow war. And in June, Adm. Bill McRaven, head of Special Operations Command, said the American presence on the archipelago nation could begin to wind down." See: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/3a8b708016d7 |
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U.S. asked Ecuador not to give Snowden asylum: Correa
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95S0CC20130629 Mired in recession, ex-Yugoslav Croatia joins troubled EU http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95S0FT20130629 Thousands march in Istanbul in solidarity with Kurds http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95S0DE20130629
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2013-06-30, 02:31 | Link #29168 | |
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By all means, the billionaires should be spending as much as they can. That's the only part of Trickle Down that mattered. I just made the point that it is wrong to tell the average Japanese/Chinese family to spend more to boost the economy, when it would only end in tears that way.
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2013-06-30, 06:25 | Link #29169 |
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Detroit faces exodus of police, firefighters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95Q0VS20130627 Philippines rebukes China for 'militarization' in South China Sea http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95T03V20130630
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2013-06-30, 08:13 | Link #29170 |
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US may have bugged the European Union
Despite all their claims about how Snowden's revelations have threatened US security, American officials are no doubt a lot more concerned about embarrassing revelations like this one. Outraged reactions from European officials threaten to derail a US-EU trade pact. The Germans seem especially upset, partly because they were a primary target of American snooping, but also because many of those from the former East Germany can remember life under the Stasi. Gay rights demonstrations even in Singapore Homosexuality is officially punishable by imprisonment in Singapore though the law is rarely enforced. That didn't discourage thousands of people from demonstrating for homosexual rights.
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Yup. Gender and sexuality issues trumped the economy and "Internet freedom", in terms of popular support. |
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2013-06-30, 11:17 | Link #29172 |
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An interesting piece of investigative reporting by an Irish independent newspaper lead to the publication of a number of telephone calls between two top bank execs. These men discussed how they would trick the Irish government in to bailing out their bank which in turn almost lead to the bankruptcy of the country.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...ped-recordings Sound clips of the phone calls: http://www.independent.ie/blog/liste...-29367462.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpME...embedded#at=14 Portrait of the ceo : http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-29381731.html The comments lead to anger in both Irish and German political circles. Particularly the arrogance and disdain for savers caused offence. German chancellor Merkel say they damaged democracy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...h-bank-scandal Irish officials consider rogue bankers more dangerous than terrorists: http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-29383299.html This is just one player in the crisis but it's scary if that type of behavior and attitude is common at the top of financials. Last edited by Bri; 2013-06-30 at 11:31. |
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2013-06-30, 11:55 | Link #29176 | ||
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The Guardian must be using a very liberal definition here about which Americans bankers have gone to jail over the crash of 2008. Huffington Post has a slideshow of eleven scalawags, but people like Bernie Madoff don't really count. He ran a Ponzi scheme that defrauded investors but had nothing to do with things like mortgage fraud and credit default swaps. Here's some of the reasons given in an Economist piece on why so few bankers are in prison: Quote:
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