2007-01-01, 21:53 | Link #62 |
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What theory? I don't have a theory. I think theories, especially ones about the events of a fictional story, are idiotic. We don't know if this "Child" she's referring to is the same as the Childs from HiME or not. It could be an older form of technology that the Slaves were made to resemble and were starting to resemble even more. We don't know a thing so we can't make assumptions.
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2007-01-01, 22:29 | Link #63 | |
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Personally I think they are linked, it's more then just plausible and if they aren't meant to be linked then why would they have so many things that DO link the series together in it if they are not meant to be linked, Miyu's existence and how it relates to 'that person' (Alyssa) is pretty much proof unless you consider that the Alyssa like character shown in one of Miyu's flashbacks a completely different person from the MH Alyssa which is highly unlikely as the area in the flashback looks more like an earth town then a place in 'earl' |
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2007-01-01, 22:43 | Link #64 | ||
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2007-01-02, 03:00 | Link #65 | |
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While MO being only an AU, who's to say sunrise won't turn around and make some kind of prequel to connect the two together. Like you said, they do have alot of stuff. All they need is the right explination. |
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2007-01-09, 08:17 | Link #67 |
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ok.. this is how i see it. i do believe they are connected, mostly because of the previous comments regarding Miyu. as for the "returning cast", it could be easily explained via anime logic. remember all those animes or games where, at the end, all the people are reborn again though they dont remember anything? i sort of think its like that, like the "circle of life" i guess you could say. people die but their essence lives on and is attracted to other people who they shared their life with. its the same basic premise as actual beliefs regarding reincarnation. all of the characters have the same basic demeanors but act a bit differently as though they grew up differently.
Miyu is just too much of a giant loophole if the two ARENT connected.. she makes no sense whatsoever if someone had seen Otome but not HiME. |
2007-01-10, 10:24 | Link #68 |
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Well, I'm with Rob. I don't think they are directly connected, Otome just has a lot of references to Hime. Because if they are really connected I need some explanation for the fact that Mikoto is a crystal princess even when it should be Mai since it was her who won the Festival; why Mikoto is the only "genuine materializer" if Mai, Natsuki and the other hime are alive? And even if you say it's some sort of reincarnation then Mikoto shouldn't have the hime mark either; how Fuuka Gakuen is now in a different world and underwater. You also said that some of them act a little different I didn't notice great changes regarding Haruka, Mikoto, Yukino and Mai (though she's a little more clumsy than she used ^_^; ). And yes some there share the same relations they shared like Yukino and Haruka, Midori and Youko, Mai and Mikoto, Natsuki and Shizuru but the relations like Natsuki vs Nao, Shizuru vs Nao don't exist on Otome.
I'm going to continue beleaving that those are only references until Sunrise proves otherwise. |
2007-01-11, 04:48 | Link #70 | |
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i personally think they are connected perhaps its the future like what everyone ere commented... also i think the harmonium they found in Windbloom its the core of the fuuka land>>kokuuyugu (watever...dont know how to spell) |
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2008-12-16, 08:20 | Link #71 |
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Randomly putting out my opinion here:
Mai Otome & Mai HiME are connected. After watching Mai Otome for the second time I picked up more references than I had the first. The same with Zwei & the first two episodes of 0~Sifr pretty much convinced me Im correct. Mai Otome is the same world, but in couple of milleniums time. Allow me to explain. Everything in existence is subject to change. The only thing that will not change is the certainty of change itself. Thousands of years ago earth used to be all one continent & sea, but then earthquakes and such separated it all. Wars and politics lead to countries changing everything, including their names. Who is to say that the same has not happened in the Mai-HiME/Otome world? What was once Japan is now the cat-god Mikoto's mountain (cant for the life of me remember the name) and Fuuka Academy lies at the bottom of the sea beside it. Also Arika's mother (gah why cant i remember the name???>.<) was a HiME. The the tradition that was the main plot in HiME may have changed, which is why her mark is different. She is a new generation HiME (probably genetically for her connection with Alyssa) but the HiME sacrifice is no longer used so many HiME go on without ever knowing of their power. Lena (aha thats it!) became an Otome, which is the only reason she ever found out. Also in OtomeZwei they fight with Childs (Mai vs Katsuchi[sp?] so sad) whos purpose has obviously changed also with no HiME to order them. As for the same characters as Mai HiME, perhaps they are simply reincarnations? (except Miyu who obviously is never going to age or die) Ok thats my theory, you may agree or disagree if you wish. |
2008-12-16, 21:31 | Link #72 | |
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2010-07-07, 16:04 | Link #73 | |
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Since the whole HiME/Otome connection was a real turnout back in 2005-2008 and everybody was interested on how this would go out but apparently no one haven't figure it out or just seems farfetched in the first place. I think for us anime fans entirely that a lot of originals shows that have sequels entirely is a result of sometimes pressures by fans and even peer decisions by people who expect a great franchise. To me I think it's just the hype can get this franchise sidetracked and really it has been sidetracked since the last episodes of HiME and possible that PR decision played a role heading on making Otome including "The Big Bang Project" that everyone though this would benefit the franchise but apparently failed big time. Now I don't want to be negative on this but franchise/saga has great potential indeed. HiME EXA's manga is out and sales have been gone good lately and I hope it will be long manga series including the saga for the anime soon. But I think they should start anew story for original HiME saga and make it more awesome than a interesting storyline without the Otome connection. In my evaluation in understand HiME/Otome connection, in reality it's not happening but since Otome blu-ray picture drama special, it already seen it. Spoiler for For all those that did not seen Otome blu-ray speical:
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2010-07-12, 11:01 | Link #74 |
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the picture drama's pretty interesting, haven't seen these girls for ages. blah no ShizNat!
and most likely the storyline would be intertwining the two worlds though I had considered that they are actually two different Universe. but just maybe this blu ray would answer the fans queries. |
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2010-07-16, 12:49 | Link #77 | |
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Damn, I miss the goodness of HiME and awesomeness. |
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2010-07-18, 08:39 | Link #78 |
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I was thinking how such a thing could be a plot device, for example was the history of otome based on the manga. I don't even remember when it all started a millenia perhaps. and for that I could only link the anime and their respective mangas to be connected though with different plot lines of course anyone knows that.
yeah I missed it too. I could only gasps when I hear Shizuru's kyoto-ben on this vid: Spoiler for poor Reitou:
LOL missed it heaps! I dunno why it got a lot of impact with me. I think I haven't heard that accent on someone else's seiyuu. |
2010-07-18, 14:49 | Link #79 | |
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It's Sunrise, they rehash stuff but apparently I kinda though we may have a new original story instead of the Otome references. I don't know why they did Otome in the first place, crap like this doesn't make any sense, "it does not make any sense". Still it's AU, not even connected until the fact that you had alot of good plot holes in the beginning. I've looked more on first series and to me had continuation all over it though when it ended and I wonder Otome was the sequel apparently it wasn't, mediocre overall even the sequel and AU stuff as well. Still it doesn't make any sense! Also HiME blu-ray was out on January 31st, so you came late to the party. I frickin love sub in HiME blu-ray, they still have that voice range back when the first series started. I do like the dub for HiME but I wonder they should change for the upcoming saga, but still it does not make any sense. Speaking of sense, maybe this will clear things up! Chewbacca defense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhvAs5GsMPw |
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2010-07-29, 15:46 | Link #80 |
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Watched Mai Hime a long time ago, and finally got around to watching Mai Otome, which I didn't think I'd like, but I really did, heh. May even write a fanfic.
Anyway, to add something to this discussion, if the Harmonium can warp time and space, then it might explain how Fuuka Garden ended up on the planet. Someone in the war of the Twelve Kings (Fumi?) used it to bring Fuuka there, either intentionally or unintentionally. If I do get around to writing my fanfic, I'll try to answer questions about the way the society evolved on that planet, and how it connects back to Mai Hime. Still got Nanoha fanfics to finish writing first, though, heh. |
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