2008-09-23, 20:48 | Link #13641 | |
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Suzaku is fighting for his promise Kallen is fighting to end Lulu Suzaku advantages -Live Geass -Fightning with protaganist (Pretty Much his last line of defense) -Latest Model Mech -Better Win Record Vs Aces -His mech is more promoted -Fighting to Protect -Kinda Lost the Battle -Spin Kick -In on the master plan -Has a deeper relationship Lulu -Less likely to kill anyone since the 0/5 last episode Kallen advantages -Berserker -Radiation Arm -Gino Support? -Gum Line? -Fan Service -Could be considered the Underdog Suzaku disadvantages -Defensive Fightning -Had to Fight too many opponents leading up to this fight -Too many reasons for him to win this fight -The protaganist is all shades of grey Kallen disadvantages -Fighting against protaganist -Rushes in too much not to big on Strategy -Shooting down CC -Not in on the master plan |
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While in Tvtrops, I saw that Kallen have been labelled in a whole of new sections, and I particulary like those two :
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Opps I didn't saw this. Suzaku is fighting for his promise = For his ZR ? yeah, but is he really necessary to the plan ? Right now he is fighting to keep kallen away from lelouch. Kallen is fighting to end Lulu = She is fighting toreach Lelouch. No one knows what she will do really when this will happen. Suzaku advantages -Live Geass = Granted -Fightning with protaganist (Pretty Much his last line of defense) = When the protagonist is to the whole world the antagonist, hard to give this as an advantage. -Latest Model Mech = Well SEITEN is.... -Better Win Record Vs Aces = Kallen can defeat an army alone, I think they are pretty equal right now. -His mech is more promoted = Huh ? -Fighting to Protect = To stop Kallen, his point isn't ā la Kira yamato "I'm fighting to protect the world"; at this state, he isn't really a good guy since we know nothing about ZR. -Kinda Lost the Battle = ? -Spin Kick = Kallen already defeat it once, it's no more a problem :P -In on the master plan = One more time, we don't know if his presence is required -Has a deeper relationship Lulu = On a different level I'll tell, and since he knows him since his childhood... -Less likely to kill anyone since the 0/5 last episode = ? Kallen advantages -Berserker = Badass. I prefer. -Radiation Arm =This is only an arm... -Gino Support? = Are you kidding ? Gino can't do anything in his state. -Gum Line = No need of the "?" this line is a very fact. -Fan Service = LOL -Could be considered the Underdog = LOLē Suzaku disadvantages -Defensive Fightning = Not all the time... -Had to Fight too many opponents leading up to this fight = And Kallen was drinking some tea. -Too many reasons for him to win this fight =Same for Kallen maybe ? -The protaganist is all shades of grey = And ? Kallen disadvantages -Fighting against protaganist = Not from everyone's point of view, she is actually fighting for what she is seeing as the justice. The Protagonist is an anti hero...hard to use this as an advantage to him. -Rushes in too much not to big on Strategy = This has never been a problem to her and well...Suzaku isn't really the type of guy who is using his brain in fight. -Shooting down CC = And so ? CC admit her defeat (but about what..;?) -Not in on the master plan = Push away by Lelouch to her own good and is ready to everything to reach him. So some of your advantages are disavantages to me and vice versa...nothing is really coming out of this.
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2008-09-23, 21:02 | Link #13643 | |
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As for Kallen winning last time, she had the vastly superior mech, and Suzaku needed to nuke Tokyo. It doesn't mean anything to an even fight. You forget that Suzaku got to Hadron blast her into the ocean in Turn 6.
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2008-09-23, 21:10 | Link #13645 | |
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2008-09-23, 21:24 | Link #13647 | |
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(JD = Keeping BK from raping Lulu before the plan has been executed So until Gino and Kallen are not longer a threat the mission still stands) From a show stand point Suzaku and Kallen main purpose now is to put on an awesome final mech battle show a draw is the most likely outcome. Either way Lulu and Nunnally conversation cannot be interrupted and will probably reach a conclusion before Kallen or Suzaku can intervene Also unless Suzaku says or does something to calm her down or make have to reach him on foot Lulu is a dead man. Time for asking questions seemed to expired back in episode 22. Either that or Nunnally begs her to spare her brother if she's there |
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2008-09-23, 21:49 | Link #13648 | |
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-Takes away any assurance that he had ever given her by saying that the WHOLE time he has been playing a game with her. (Delibrate) -Tells her to 'Live On,' but then is unexpectedly rescued by Rolo. Kallen has no way of knowing that wasn't planned. (Not Delibrate) -Kallen's other source of assurance, C.C., takes off on her own. (Not Delibrate). -After a month long absense, Lelouch appears as the new Emperor of the power he always swore he would destroy w/ the person that tried to use Refrain on Kallen taking over her position (Delibrate). -At this point, Kallen's faith is very delicate, being held together by the fact that he told her to 'live on.' However, w/ everything that's happened, it could have very well been a mind screw. She tries to get answers from Lelouch, but he (presumably because he can't lie to her) says nothing. (Delibrate) -Her faith is shattered when Lelouch's typical double intention becomes 'known' where he attacks a peace summit and takes hostages. Kallen, of course, has no way to know that this particular plan has a triple intention. (Delibrate) -During the battle he uses pretty underhanded techniques such as blowing up a mountain, destroying BKs and his own troops. The fact that all his troops follow him because their Geassed can't help much either (Delibrate). Why did Lelouch do it? I'm thinking a combination of things: his feeling for her (romantic or friendship), not wanting her to have to make the decision of fighting him or her friends in the BKs, not wanting her to be villified w/ the rest of them so she can return to a normal life, to offer her some degree of protection, to not have someone not committed to the 'Demon's Path' on his side and be a potential liability, etc. Here's hoping there's an answer for this in the last episode. Otherwise, I'll be pissed. It's not like it would take that long. youngde, signing off.
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2008-09-23, 21:53 | Link #13650 | |
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We don't know if she really would have pulled that trigger in the hanger. C.C. had her pinned real quick.
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2008-09-23, 21:58 | Link #13651 | |||||
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The two have a promise to keep and that is to enact Zero Requiem. Summary for episode 25 states that specifically. Nunnally and Kallen are therefore Lelouch's and Suzaku's last obstacle before this plan comes to fruition. I'm guessing Damacoles is their instrument to do it (or not). I don't see any parallels to S1 ending because it was a mexican stand-off. Here each man has his own obstacle to defeat. I'm hoping for the fight to go this way. -They fight in the air -Albion damages Guren's arm (but not completely disable it) -Guren tackles Albion into the fortress -Lancelot loses its gun and sword -Brutal hand to hand combat results (Remember S1 where Suzaku completely smashed Lelouch's mech when he killed those JFL? Let's see that between Albion and Guren, THEN it'll be a fair fight) Quote:
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Not that I don't want to label Kallen an idiot (cause even the BK's dont' realize it) but I don't see why she can be pissed at his actions when he's been doing the same thing when she was on his side. (On the outside it looked evil, but on the inside he had a hidden motive) Quote:
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2008-09-23, 22:05 | Link #13652 | |
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Hmm, perhaps + her being a handicap to his plan. Fighting her friends=>hesitation Plus, he should've cared less. Diethard: partiality! |
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2008-09-23, 22:05 | Link #13653 | ||
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As for their promise, Knightmare combat is not going to be an issue much longer. Whatever their plan, this is the crux of it. Worst-case, Suzaku ejects back into Damocles and takes the elevator. Quote:
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2008-09-23, 22:09 | Link #13656 | |
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In Episode 24 she is the first person rushing to Kill him Xingke seem more concerned about the hostages than Lulu |
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2008-09-23, 22:17 | Link #13658 |
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Which, begs the question, how did she get into her KMF so damn quick? She was on the floor w/ Lelouch when Kallen busted, Kallen said Sayonara, and then went after him. Then Bam, C.C. cold-cocks her. She got into the pink Lancelot and had it running in like 4 seconds. I can't get into my car and get it started that fast.
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2008-09-23, 22:20 | Link #13659 | |
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