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Though yes, Thunderbird 2 is my favorite of the machines, even if 1 looks better. And I don't think they'd want to change the machines much. They might modernize the designs so they don't look so obviously 60's, but their designs are so iconic to the series that changing them too much or replacing them outright would be cause for much outrage.
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2013-02-05, 05:09 | Link #22 |
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I just realised that in the Hobbit thread, I discussed the possibility that Weta has a relatively weak CGI department compared to their cutting edge physical props and miniature departments. So I hope I am wrong there. Still, it is amusing that Weta's miniatures skill (would have been perfect in a puppetry series) and their physical props skills (perfect for live-action) are not used here.
I saw a cartoon series with a CGI friendly dragon that was animated by WETA. It wasn't bad. But now I do wonder if they really are the best people for the job now. Funny, I was sure I was more optimistic back when the thread started...
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2013-02-05, 09:59 | Link #24 | |
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Of course it is terribly mean to do that. Weta isn't a CGI specialist. But we can't help it.
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2013-02-05, 11:43 | Link #26 | |
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Thus when the Western company got hold of it, they simply changed the name to Thunderbirds 2086. Kind of like Voltron, the original title was Go Lion. Space battleship yamato became Starblazers. Gatchaman became "Battle of the Planets." Mazinger Z being turned into Tranzor Z. American companies in the 1980s had a tendency to change the names of anime shows back then for the Western market since all animation was treated like "kids" shows.
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2013-02-05, 19:02 | Link #28 | |
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You get money from those people by re-releasing Blu Ray or making film versions, like they have already done. In this case I doubt the sponsors want to attract only old fans; I expect this new show to be like how Sunrise wanted to capture the youth market with new AU Gundam series.
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2013-02-06, 16:39 | Link #29 |
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Star Fleet (X Bomber) could almost be crossover between Anime & Gerry Anderson's puppet shows, with a little dash of Star Wars to spice things up.
Me & my brother had a good reason to be up early on Sunday mornings to watch it, creepy yet thrilling at the same time. IIRC The original Japanese screening of Stingray had a "bonus" episode mostly of clips (clip shows seem popular on Japanese TV) with some specially shot footage to link it all. |
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That way, 'dads' won't be inclined to take junior to the cinema or give them money for it The charm of thunderbirds made it survive all the cartoons and CGI that have come and gone the past 50 years
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Again, the charm and legacy of Thunderbirds was that it was a puppetshow Redoing the muppet show in CGI would recieve the same criticism
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2013-02-08, 13:02 | Link #35 | |
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As I said earlier, there was a reason he refused to make another puppetry series once he could afford hiring actors. He used puppets because that was all he could have at the time. It was not an artistic choice, and he hated it.
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2013-02-08, 14:25 | Link #36 | |
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puppets". If Thunderbirds had been done in live-action back then, would still have been as memorable? Last edited by AnimeFan188; 2013-02-08 at 14:47. |
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2013-02-08, 20:26 | Link #39 | |
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And guess who's opinion counts most to make something "Iconic"? This is just another show riding on the coattails of its famous predecessor for money Nothing grand like "honoring the original" about it And as AnimeFan188 stated, would Thunderbirds have survived if it was just another cartoon or real life series?
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The likes of UFO did matter though. Anno was a fan, and that's why he put UFO references in the Evangelion TV series. Including the opening, where you have quick flashing scenes just like the UFO opening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvURidpkCY Quote:
The paradox is that NOW, it is actually more expensive to use puppets, as there isn't a puppetry industry anymore. The only reason to use puppets now is to attract the older crowd, not the kids they have in mind.
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