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View Poll Results: Ore no Imouto - Episode 6 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 60 | 45.80% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 25 | 19.08% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 26 | 19.85% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 6.11% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 9 | 6.87% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 1.53% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2010-11-09, 03:49 | Link #141 | ||
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You want to share it with someone and brag The closest person is not here instead spending a night away from home. You want to brag on it so bad That person is still not home yet. You still want to show the prized possession = Tsun tsun action? I love how many people here got trolled by the scriptwriter. Agreed it can be interpreted as jealousy, but with that ecstatic dakimakura arrival scene earlier, a completely new possibility has raised. ================================= Edit: Quote:
**** it, ninja'd :P read the whole 7 pages in one go, started typing since page 4 or something.
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2010-11-09, 04:20 | Link #142 | |
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For otaku healthcare trends relating to Oreimo; going by some 50ish doujinshi covers from retailers, ~75-80% of the current 18+ Oreimo doujins have to do with Kirino and Kyousuke. The other portion is almost all Kuroneko with Ayase usually appearing with Kirino. I think you'd have to hit pixiv for poor Manami .
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2010-11-09, 05:32 | Link #143 | |
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2010-11-09, 09:48 | Link #145 | |||||
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I hope you won't be irritated to have me poke on a bit more, but IMHO there are some parts which are about to leave the "agree to disagree" area and bordering "objectively wrong".
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This is what bothers me, and why I simply can't feel this happy-fuzzy "it's only a matter of time until they tie the knot" feeling. Instead, I feel that Manami is headed for a major disappointment, and Kyousuke is an ass for keeping her hanging on like this by intentionally leaving this asymmetry unaddressed. Quote:
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So, no. He's not oblivious. His rejections to Manami's overtures are firm, consistent and without a trace of wavering. He confirms that he likes it the way it is, and he likes the idea to carry on like this, but he does NOT give any confirmation or expectation to leave the current friendzone. Or, what would be better, he shows no initiative to get closer to Manami on his own volition. It's intentional. He's keeping her at arm's length, and not by coincidence, but by design. Quote:
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2010-11-09, 09:55 | Link #146 |
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I'm don't believe that Kyousuke intends to completely friendzone Manami in perpetua, at least if he does he's essentially content in keeping the status quo for now. If anything, their final conversation before going to bed suggests Kyousuke is willing to consider the possibility of being more than friends, despite his insistence to keep this where they are now. That at least tells me that while he's content with things as they are now and prefers to keep it that way, he's not going to reject the possibility of change in the future if he thinks it's coming. He may not like her that way right now, but he seems willing to accept a change in himself if it does happen, even if it isn't happening right now.
If he's being an ass, it's because he's circling the issue rather than telling her straight, though I suppose it's because he thinks he needs to be delicate about it and think of her feelings if he were to reject her then and there.
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2010-11-09, 09:59 | Link #147 | |
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2010-11-09, 11:07 | Link #148 |
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"I wonder how things'll be if we graduate and go to the same college."
This line signifies that he has put some thought into moving past the friendship. He just doesn't want to commit now. It's plausible. Sometimes people want to live a carefree life without responsiblities in high school while they still can. College is the period where everything changes. More independance, more responsibilities, more room for a love life. To me, Kyousuke believes he isn't ready for a relationship yet and who can blame him? His parents don't particularly treat him favorably, instead giving special treatment to his sibling. His sibling nags him for every little thing. Simply put, he feels restricted at home. He even said this, albeit not as explicit, during the episode. When he graduates from college and moves out of the house, his environment, his demeanor, his way of life will change, for better or worse. And who will be there for him? Manami. |
2010-11-09, 13:43 | Link #149 | |
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And no, I'm not into gay incest. Her actions don't seem that weird to me. Last edited by Clarste; 2010-11-09 at 16:05. |
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2010-11-09, 14:29 | Link #150 |
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Just a couple of things:
I still feel that this series is still going the "bonding" route, I mean, there's a little something extra in ep5 that might lead to wincest, but I'm not going to hold that against the writers yet. If anything else comes up then that might change my opinion. As for Kyosuke, it's pretty clear in this episode that he does not want Manami yet, and not that he was oblivious. The lap-pillow incident could've been interpreted either way, but on hindsight the camera panted towards her lap and back up, signifying that Kyosuke knows whats going on and choose to play dumb. In this episode, his constant and firm rebuttal, couple with attempting to turn the bath thing into a joke is pretty clear to me that he knows what's going on, and choose to "remain" the same. Of course, at the end he pretty said to Manami: "I'm going to be single till college, so when the time comes I'll be all good." Also, I love the grandpa in this episode, he's one of those energetic grandparent that is both loving and has way too much time on their hands, which usually breeds pretty good comedy. Overall, this episode is completely different from the first five, but enjoyable nevertheless.
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2010-11-09, 16:51 | Link #152 | |
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The only one who wouldn't like this, and who might try to sabotage it, is Kirino - out of jealousy
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2010-11-09, 19:08 | Link #155 | |
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2010-11-09, 19:28 | Link #156 | ||
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However, you're right that she has complete subservient devotion to Kyousuke. This is something that I'm not entirely comfortable with myself. While I do like Manami and her character a lot, I would prefer it if we saw her have a side to herself that's not tied up with Kyousuke (like, say, we saw a few scenes of her chatting with female friends that she likes). Quote:
This is more or less as I see it as well. Like yourself, I think that this one specific line makes it very clear that Kyousuke is open to a romantic relationship with Manami once they're both in College, but simply doesn't want the possible drama or complication of one right now. Which, as you alluded to, makes a lot of sense, given the drama and complication that exists in his life right now due to his family. He simply doesn't want to have to balance an actual romance on top of that. So, I don't see where there is a "firm, consistent rejection" here, or anything of the sort. Kyousuke is just trying to slow things down, and put romance off until he's in a better position to handle one.
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2010-11-09, 19:34 | Link #157 |
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Urgh..hate Manami as a possible love interest. Why are these type of girls even attractive? Know someone in real life that's exactly like that. The result? A terrible brat of a son, totally useless at any meaningful discussions and I shudder at the thought of having a person like that as a wife..But this not about my preference..
For Kyosuke, is Manami the life-solutions? So far he's been using her as the safe harbour, recuperating for his next sacrifice for his sister. Manami has a role, but not the role she wants. |
2010-11-09, 20:06 | Link #158 |
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I think the whole issue comes down to whether you take Kyousuke's claim that he just wants to live a normal life totally seriously. Considering his position in his family relative to his go-getter do-anything sister, I think he had sort of resolved himself that the simple, easy-going life was for him. He contented himself with that, and even found comfort in that because it was such a contrast to the high-tension lives of his father and sister. So when Minami lays out the prospect of going to college together, this is the ultimate "my destiny in life is to continue down this moderate path" and at least a part of him thinks that's for the best. But I don't think that he's actually totally sold on it yet, and that's why he's very non-committal towards Minami. I think part of the awkwardness towards Minami in this episode is a sort of a realization that not only could he content himself with this life, he could probably learn to like it as well (as Minami is not without charm). But... he files it under the "decide later" category because he's just not sold, and right now he prefers to have a "safe refuge" to protect him from -- among other things -- having to make big decisions.
Personally, I think there is a strong and almost irresistible attraction to opposites, so though he complains about the sort of life his sister his putting him through, there's something about it that he finds a bit exciting and daring. It's sort of like when they showed him finally beating a round in the Sispocalype game and for a brief moment he was super pumped-up... and then he realized that's not like him and it's stupid. He gets similar "fired up" when he has to rush to his sister's defense... even though he also finds it to be annoying and a pain in another sense. There's this small glimpse of something more he can reach for that he had never fully considered before. So, basically, I think there's a tension in Kyousuke between two possible futures: the common life he had resolved himself to, or a more risky adventurous life full of unknowns. And right now he really doesn't want to decide; he just wants to see what happens. My personal feeling is that Kyousuke won't be able to go back to the simple life he espoused in the first episode, because his character has to change over the course of the story. I don't see Minami picking up the pace and being able to run at the speed he's starting to move, and, if he gets too deep into this stuff, Kyousuke may even think that Minami deserves a calmer happier life than he'll be able to give her. I think he's naturally taking himself down a different path in life, though he doesn't realize it quite yet. That being said, I'm not convinced that this story will take things that far anyway; we'll have to wait and see.
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2010-11-09, 20:36 | Link #159 | |
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Kyousuke playing eroges = complicated life that Manami would find unhappy and lacking in calmness? Kyousuke isn't going to have to cover for his sister forever. At least, I certainly hope not, for his sake. That would be an obstacle to a relationship with almost any potential girlfriend, not just Manami. What wife would want her husband always busy helping out his sister? However, if Kyousuke simply develops a liking for the otaku lifestyle, then I don't see how that rules out a romance between him and Manami. A couple reasons why: 1. Do we even know what Manami thinks about eroges, otakus, etc...? Unless I missed or forgot something, Manami seems to be the only major character in this anime who hasn't taken a firm position on it either way. Such neutrality could actually be a big benefit if Kyousuke gets into the otaku lifestyle. If Manami and Kyousuke become a couple, Manami may simply see her boyfriend has having his own interests, and while not holding all of them herself, would simply let him partake in it without her interference. While couples frequently have shared interests, its far from uncommon for each partner to have his or her own separate interest and the other partner simply learns to let it be. Classic example: The husband is into pro sports, and the wife is not. In fact, it's probably healthy for each partner to have his or her own separate interest, so that they can get a break from one another from time to time. 2. Manami's grandparents really don't strike me as the sort of people who would make a big deal about Kyousuke playing eroges, or watching anime, or reading manga.
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2010-11-09, 21:19 | Link #160 | |
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I'm not saying that Manami isn't potentially compatible, but I think that the show is setting up a contrast between the type of life he originally said he wanted in the first episode, and the sort of life he is moving towards. That is why episode 6 is such a stark contrast and doesn't exactly feel like it fits in to the rest of Kyousuke's now-current life. Of course no matter what he decides to do, he could fall in love with Manami, but what will draw him to her? Where is the pull -- the appeal? I think he will find him self pulled in directions that take him further away from Manami, as we have seen thus far. For him to then go back to Manami takes a deliberate effort/choice on his part, and so far he seems resistant to making that sort of choice. Not saying it can't happen. But, I don't see anything in the story so far that suggests that is what's happening, yet. I don't think it's enough for Kyousuke to end up with Manami as a sort of "consolation prize".
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