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View Poll Results: No Game No Life - Episode 12 (END) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 65 | 53.72% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 38 | 31.40% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 12.40% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 0.83% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.65% | |
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2014-06-26, 04:50 | Link #81 | |
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after challenging a top rank,.... then we have to wait for several months I'm enjoying NGNL... truly top of the year so far... thanks a lot every casts are awesome... including Steph I wonder if Jibril really told the secret of Warbeast game to Alvangarde already or maybe Alvangarde already part of Elkia Federation? |
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2014-06-26, 05:27 | Link #83 | |
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2014-06-26, 05:56 | Link #84 |
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Fantastic finale to a fantastic season.
Admittedly, I too thought the purpose of the chess-shaped race pieces was to collect them by winning them through games with as high stakes as these. It never occurred to me that you could simply "collect" them by working together with everyone. Such a simple (read as: more favourable) solution. Silly me! Count me in with those who hope to see a 2nd season of this.
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2014-06-26, 08:44 | Link #89 |
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And we're done. That last episode was enjoyable, though 6 & 10 will remain as the best of this cour.
We got the usual over-the-top keikaku-doori, character quirks and humorous fanservice admirably delivered. It's a bit questionnable to introduce a character like Miko in the last episode, but it worked well. To novel readers, is she going to be relevant in the next arc? On the downside, it could have been a bit more conclusive as well, since there's no certitude about a season 2. Overall, an enjoyable closure to a fantastic comedy. Now, let's hope for Madhouse to see the light and give us MOAR |
2014-06-26, 09:27 | Link #90 | |
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Remember those points: -Sora and Shiro are known to be the King and Queen of Imanity, having defeated Kurami who is known to be affiliated with Elven Garde, which means they defeated someone who had access to elf magic. -Ino learned from the get go that Sora has heard about their game due to Steph's grandfather. Therefore the game concept and rules were already known, which is extremely dangerous for them, regardless if their opponent is Imanity or another race (hence why they force a memory wipe for every game). -Miko is said to be the one behind the rise of the Eastern Federation within merely 50 years, despite the warbeasts clans weren't united at all prior that point (which also explain why Sora and Shiro doubted about her identity in the anime). So it is actually logical and refreshing for a character like that to have preparations done in case they lose. Far too often we have almighty characters blind by their powers and advantages to the point they don't consider the worst possible scenario for them, despite they don't commit anything important for a failsafe measure. Anyway, this episode is actually a nice closure for a one cour series, and while it has a decent (albeit very mean) teaser, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't going for a second season either. That said, it is really the one time I believe Sora and Shiro "calculations" were beyond far fetched. Again it is possible, but very very unlikely here. The NPC carrying Steph is a complete unknown factor. Sure, it is a NPC, but there was no guarantee the NPC would make it on time (for instance, what if Steph is clumsy enough to "ride" on it and took something like 10 more seconds? What if Izuna's trashing actions would hinder the NPC path at some point?). Likewise, Steph had to shoot with her eyes shut, forced to shoot "right in front of her", but that's actually another gamble because they don't know beforehand where Steph will be facing, since she can either shoot from the left or right of the NPC head. I certainly think they shouldn't have gone with their own spice and adapt that portion properly instead. If Kukuru's post is accurate on that matter, I would have largely less issue if Shiro and Sora were indeed taken out immediately after Izuna activated Blood Destruction, then Izuna got shot by Steph on the very location they landed (at least, the margin of error is significantly lower than calculating where a NPC would be).
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2014-06-26, 10:58 | Link #91 | ||
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This was a very enjoyable show, Like some other people have said already in this thread, it isn't perfect and there's quite a few things that I could say, but overall I think it's a solid series with pretty interesting characters and exciting storytelling. I'm looking forward for a second season
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I personally don't think that the matter of whether Shiro's calculations are realistically plausible or not are (not just humanly) possible should be even discussed. It's simply not plausible because (by the principles of the chaos theory) that level of prediction would require her to possess a level of knowledge on par to that of a Laplace demon. But as I said on the previous thread I accept that: a) Shiro's calculating abilities or on par or even beyond that of a supercomputer b) This is a universe where said calculating abilities can be used to predict with precision even human (or rather exceed) behavior. This is the same as accepting that "lifters create antigravity", "microwaves are not much different from particle accelerators", "a sex of a baby can be determined by what a woman eats while pregnant" that everyone accepted without much problems while watching Steins;Gate, or "the memories of our ancestors are stored in minute details in our genes" from the "Assassin's creed" franchise. Now reconstructing the whole strategy involving Steph as described in the anime, as far as I understood it went like this: 1) NPCs actively follow PCs when they sense them and try to touch them. When contact happens PCs are slowly drained of their "love power". After the "love power" of a PC reaches zero, the NPCs do not consider him a target anymore and resume their original movement routine on the map. (this was not said, but I guess that NPCs have a set "visual field" and that they can only sense PCs if they enter it) 2) Steph was drained of her love power and jumped on a specific NPC (supposedly in that precise order, so to reduce chances of messing up the NPC's behavior). That means that in said condition she couldn't fire and even if she entered in contact with other NPCs they would ignore her. Supposedly the NPC that she is on cannot sense her anyway because Steph is outside her visual field. 3) Steph was asked to keep her eyes closed all the time from that point onward, likely to prevent Ino from keeping track of her, and even to fall in a sort of "unconscious" state until the right time. 4) During the fall from the skyscraper Sora Shiro (corrected by klash) shoots in a way that his bullet will bounce off Jibril's bullet and then go all the way down and hit Steph who was carried "unconscious" on the roaming NPC whose position could only be known through the precise calculations of Shiro. (No comment ) 5) Steph love power is restored, however since she is touching a NPC, the power immediately starts to drain (this works like a timer for Steph). Also according to what Ino said near the end of episode 11, a PC that has just been shot cannot shoot for a few seconds until it recovers from the "lovestruck effect". Why Steph's behavior isn't overridden by the lovestruck effect or why it doesn't affect her here isn't clear. They never clearly explained how that works. 6) Eventually the NPC carries Steph where Shiro and Sora predicted that Izuna would stand, and at the very exact time that Steph's love power is about reach zero. 7) The order given to Steph was to fire straight ahead exactly when her power was going to run out. Now this wasn't quite shown in the anime, but logically speaking all that was necessary was for the NPC carrying Steph to see Izuna, the correct alignment would therefore occur automatically. So well if you want my opinion, assuming that the NPC's behavior isn't really complex (and in most videogames I played it really isn't), the hardest point to believe is number 4, and number 5 looks like an oversight to me, but of course there's a lot of factors that could have gone wrong. EDIT: corrected point 4
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2014-06-26, 11:13 | Link #92 | |||
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That said, the most critical and random ridden point was indeed point 4, with that bullet aimed for Steph.
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2014-06-26, 11:23 | Link #93 | ||
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Well now, she was ordered to shoot straight ahead, of course "straight ahead" is a bit vague and she could have missed, but not as far as shooting the other way.
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2014-06-26, 11:25 | Link #94 | |
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2014-06-26, 11:28 | Link #95 | |||
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As they landed, Jibril was frantically all over Sora, despite he was hundred meters away.
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2014-06-26, 11:29 | Link #96 | ||
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2014-06-26, 12:09 | Link #97 |
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I suppose the Oath has an absolute effect that can easily override game rules, since God Hax > game Hax.
How would they cheat further with the technology? Isn't Izuna's love slave basically on a permanent effect until he/she is saved by another? |
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