(L) Genshiken 2nd Series

[Rhyel]

Thanks relentlessflame.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Eclipze

Like this?

Spoiler for lovely com:

the hell!! :O

havent seen lovely complex but that is pushing me to watch it...TRAP!!!!

Originally Posted by Jaden

This episode was a rather (way too) in-depth answer for why Ogiue doesn't accept any help for selling her books. Surely everyone knew she'd be drawing yaoi, but what the hell are those characters!?!

"those characters"

are you talking about the designs or why she is basing them on the members of genshiken O.O

simple answer 1) bishie 2) she finds them highly valuable subjects for "fanfics"

[blewin]

Originally Posted by Kimichi

I dunno I think it did a fine job of showing not only how ogiue's mind works, but gave abit of insight into yaoi fangirls in general. I kinda like the fact that it's making it clear the shows about otaku culture for both guys and girls ya know.

I think I see what you mean, but I still object to the extent of it. Even with what the guys've been dreaming about, you don't get an entire episode of nothing but sexual suggestions.. in this season and especially 1st season.

But! it does kind of support the later fact that Ogyiue could become a great manga artist. Still, an entire episode... uh! since there's so much more to cover in the manga if they plan to give Genshiken a closure, I can't help but think they've wasted valuable time of this episode emphasising on what we already know.

Originally Posted by Rhyel

At First I smile a lot, but it is going to much serious and explict content. I am not prepared.

The same thing happens on episode 2, but this episode was more time on sexual theme.

season 2 sure has a vastly different (more mature) tone to it, but the manga is just as light as the first season. The producer has gone out of his way to make this show more explicit (more out in the open with all its implications) than sketched in the manga. I wonder why? trying to target any specific groups?

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by blewin

I think I see what you mean, but I still object to the extent of it. Even with what the guys've been dreaming about, you don't get an entire episode of nothing but sexual suggestions.. in this season and especially 1st season.

But! it does kind of support the later fact that Ogyiue could become a great manga artist. Still, an entire episode... uh! since there's so much more to cover in the manga if they plan to give Genshiken a closure, I can't help but think they've wasted valuable time of this episode emphasising on what we already know.

I certainly didn't know what yaoi fans fantasize about. Not in that kind of detail...

[Ashlotte]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I certainly didn't know what yaoi fans fantasize about. Not in that kind of detail...

Your not the only one.

Aside from the rather obvious Madrame x sasahara stuff I never would have guessed how'd she fit everyone else in the club into her little fantasies...It was quite entertaining and enlightening all at once.

[d.sinclair]

Yup, I agree that the ep was actually quite educational for me. Even if S2 has lost the Saki vs. Otaku comedic edge, it's still quite enjoyable to watch the characters we know and love develop.

It was worth enduring the yaoi scenes for Ogiue's accent and Ohno's reaction.

[aboutblue]

Am I the only one thinking "what the hell happened to Genshiken"? I'm pretty disappointed so far. It's hard to put my finger on but I feel like a lot of the charm and quirkiness from the first season is gone.

Maybe because the show is focusing more on individual relationships instead of the club as a whole. Which is okay, I guess, except that the episodes are slower and it's often more dramatic than humorous. I don't feel like I'm watching a lighthearted slice-of-life about otakus anymore, I feel like I'm watching... well, I don't even know. I just know it's not the Genshiken I knew and loved.

And episode 5 was sort of funny but so slow! I can't believe they wasted a whole episode on Ogiue's fantasy. I feel like they could have done so much more with the idea of yaoi fandom rather than make us sit through an entire alternate BL Genshiken.

Ok, I'm done ranting now. =P

[aohige]

Perhaps not the only one, but most definitly in the minority here.
What you consider a "waste" may be "entertainment" to others.

[TougeSil80]

Spoiler for Ep.5:

Although I don't like yaoi, it's still funny to see Ogiue fantasize about all the guys having a relationship. I don't really think this ep is wasted, it's pretty funny stuff.

[guiltygearxt]

now they better yuri the next episode and make it up for us

[Tatsushiro]

Originally Posted by guiltygearxt

now they better yuri the next episode and make it up for us

Spoiler:

Just wait for the bath scene.

[SnEptUne]

Originally Posted by Tatsushiro

Spoiler:

Just wait for the bath scene.

I doubt that can be as dramatic, angust, and depressing as Oguie fantasy. Afterall, yuri is usually about commiting suicide together, right?

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Tatsushiro

Spoiler:

Just wait for the bath scene.

That should be fun to watch as long as my eyes dont start bleeding again

[d.sinclair]

Originally Posted by aboutblue

Am I the only one thinking "what the hell happened to Genshiken"? I'm pretty disappointed so far. It's hard to put my finger on but I feel like a lot of the charm and quirkiness from the first season is gone.

Maybe because the show is focusing more on individual relationships instead of the club as a whole. Which is okay, I guess, except that the episodes are slower and it's often more dramatic than humorous. I don't feel like I'm watching a lighthearted slice-of-life about otakus anymore, I feel like I'm watching... well, I don't even know. I just know it's not the Genshiken I knew and loved.

And episode 5 was sort of funny but so slow! I can't believe they wasted a whole episode on Ogiue's fantasy. I feel like they could have done so much more with the idea of yaoi fandom rather than make us sit through an entire alternate BL Genshiken.

Ok, I'm done ranting now. =P

I think you might not be enjoying this season as much because a big element from S1 is missing: Saki vs. the otakus, or the clash between otaku and "normal" life. That was the meat of the show last season - it was the driving force for the majority of the comedy and was what made the show so edgy and interesting. Now that's pretty much gone, to be replaced with character development and more insights into otaku life.

S1 really did run on the shoulders of Saki and Madarame. Now that they aren't playing as big a role, it makes sense that the series feels different, so I understand where you're coming from, but I'm still liking the show. Now that S1 set up the premise and the characters, it's a good time to start developing the characters that we have become attached to. That was actually something that was missing for me in S1 - the lack of development for some of the characters.

More Ogiue please. Her cosplay shot in the intro is just too much win.

[aboutblue]

Originally Posted by aohige

Perhaps not the only one, but most definitly in the minority here.
What you consider a "waste" may be "entertainment" to others.

I never said it was a waste. I still think the show is much better than a lot of other anime and worth watching. It's just that when you love the first season it's easy to find flaws with the second when it doesn't quite live up to your expectations.

Originally Posted by d.sinclair

I think you might not be enjoying this season as much because a big element from S1 is missing: Saki vs. the otakus, or the clash between otaku and "normal" life. That was the meat of the show last season - it was the driving force for the majority of the comedy and was what made the show so edgy and interesting. Now that's pretty much gone, to be replaced with character development and more insights into otaku life.

S1 really did run on the shoulders of Saki and Madarame. Now that they aren't playing as big a role, it makes sense that the series feels different, so I understand where you're coming from, but I'm still liking the show. Now that S1 set up the premise and the characters, it's a good time to start developing the characters that we have become attached to. That was actually something that was missing for me in S1 - the lack of development for some of the characters.

More Ogiue please. Her cosplay shot in the intro is just too much win.

Thanks for pointing that out. I think you're exactly right. The focus of the show has dramatically shifted. I mean we couldn't go with the Saki vs Genshiken forever so I guess I shall just have to get used to it.

How is this lining up with the manga so far? I'd like to avoid any spoilers but in general terms what volume are we on?

[Deathkillz]

ep 6 ~

Spoiler:

well...if ep 5 was about ogiue mind raping everyone else...this week is the opposite XD
ogiue can deny her otaku urges but the pile of dropped yaoi doujin's really betrayed her this time at comifest

you usual genshiken ep

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by SnEptUne

Afterall, yuri is usually about commiting suicide together, right?

No. Definitely NOT.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by SnEptUne

I doubt that can be as dramatic, angust, and depressing as Oguie fantasy. Afterall, yuri is usually about commiting suicide together, right?

Only if your a heterosexual homophobic female,

but for everyone else,

it means FUN.

[Messerschmitt_Bf-109]

Yuri is fun for males. I have watched most of the yuri animes out there /

[blewin]

Originally Posted by d.sinclair

I think you might not be enjoying this season as much because a big element from S1 is missing: Saki vs. the otakus, or the clash between otaku and "normal" life. That was the meat of the show last season - it was the driving force for the majority of the comedy and was what made the show so edgy and interesting. Now that's pretty much gone, to be replaced with character development and more insights into otaku life.

S1 really did run on the shoulders of Saki and Madarame. Now that they aren't playing as big a role, it makes sense that the series feels different, so I understand where you're coming from, but I'm still liking the show. Now that S1 set up the premise and the characters, it's a good time to start developing the characters that we have become attached to. That was actually something that was missing for me in S1 - the lack of development for some of the characters.

More Ogiue please. Her cosplay shot in the intro is just too much win.

yeah, the focus of the two seasons are surely different. Season 2 is centred more around the romance between Sasahara and Oygiue, as well as Oygiue's personal conflict with her otaku interest. I think it's great, as it explores another main human shade of otakuness - how to resolve her embarrassment of having an otaku interest, whether to accept or reject it.

However, like I've said before, I don't quite like the fact that they spent an entire episode on her imagination, as opposed to the manga.