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2011-06-28, 22:19 | Link #14502 |
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Venezuela's Chavez shown walking with Cuba's Castro
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75R4JH20110629 Los Alamos nuclear lab under siege from wildfire http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-28-22-59-15
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2011-06-28, 23:20 | Link #14503 | |
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2011-06-28, 23:24 | Link #14504 |
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I recall that Teddy Roosevelt won the Noble Peace Prize for negotiating the treaty between Russia and Japan in 1905...he didn't want it really. He wanted to get the American into a war with one of them (probably Japan since the later Great White Fleet was a show of force to Japan in some ways).
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2011-06-29, 00:19 | Link #14505 | |
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That is shocking Ithekro, I had thought he had done something great, but it wasn't his intentions? Either a strange stroke of luck or utter incompetence with that one. It's a shame that North America is so war hungry. |
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2011-06-29, 00:46 | Link #14506 |
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The Western World as a whole was more imperialistic at the time. The horrors of war were not all the thought of at the time. War was "glorious". It wasn't until the First World War that the concept of war changed for Europeans and Americans.
The war Teddy had been in had lasted only a few months and gained the United States a bunch of territories and freed Cuba from Spain. Also both Japan and Russia were practical broke at that point, so if either of them had gotten into a war with the United States, they would likely lose quickly, thus gaining the Americans more prestige, maybe trade rights (doubt there was any territory other than maybe a Port and "sphere of influence" that the United States would want around there. Maybe take Japan's stake in China to complete the trade line from California, to Hawaii, to the Philippines, to China. Or Port Arthur) Teddy wanted balance in the region, but I don't think we was afraid to get the countries hands bloody to do so. (The big stick remember). he did favor the Japanese more than the Russians, but didn't want either side to be more powerful than the other (the Great White Fleet being the warning to not get too big for Japan I suppose). At least that is how my history professor spun the idea. He could have been completely wrong. http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/lif...Stickessay.htm
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2011-06-29, 00:55 | Link #14508 |
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Whoa, thank you for sharing all of that with me. I love history and this side of the story I find very interesting. I do recall his saying of "Speak softly yet carry a big stick." Definitely war was much different when he was fighting it than what we'd face after First World War. One thing I was told was war then was very impersonal, and long. How Teddy was painted in our school was a bit different, but I could see this idea being plausible. Especially so with how things are now. When I see modern history unfold it reminds me of Eisenhower's military industrial complex warning.
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2011-06-29, 02:10 | Link #14510 | |
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But you can count on these idiots going to court if this law gets all the way to the Queen, because "It goes against religious freedom" (which is utter bullshit of course, as nothing prevents them from believing in their Invisible Magic Man in the sky).
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2011-06-29, 02:17 | Link #14512 |
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I wonder if they will go attempt to prove the methods are less painful than stunning, or if they will attempt to go with the meat being healther using their methods. The whole deal is about religious laws and "clean" foods if I recall.
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2011-06-29, 02:23 | Link #14513 |
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Muslims tend to argue that Halal meat is healthier because it drains the meat entirely of the blood and thus the impurities within it, for instance. I'm not gonna argue that particular point, like what they consider as impurities, but what I think people are concerned about are the methods they use to drain the meat. But whether they pass the law or not, I'm calling it now that people will continue doing it in secret.
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2011-06-29, 04:03 | Link #14514 | |
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China welcomes Sudanese president, wanted on war crimes warrant
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2011-06-29, 08:00 | Link #14515 | |
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Slaughter is slaughter, I don't think you can really say any form of killing is humane. Besides that, I'm not convinced that Kosher/halal slaughter is considerably more painful then stunning, how do we know how much pain the animals feel when stunned, people usually feel extremely high levels of pain when stunned. Meanwhile getting the throat sliced cleanly is far from the worst that could happen to an animal. For one thing, once the original cut is done, it's not really painful, the animal just goes unconcious due to the blood loss. And anyway, animals do far worse to each other then we do to them. Never watch a cat kill a mouse. Do you think the cat cares about the mouse's feelings? Anyway, to get around the Halal restrictions they'll probably just do it in Belgium or Germany and import it back in. I would have thought the meat industry would also be against such a move. Imagine the regulational bureaucracy that would go with enforcing it, would it be worth it? |
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2011-06-29, 11:16 | Link #14517 | |
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The initiative for this law was taken by the animal welfare party and it was backed by the greens, labor and libertarians and the far right. The religious left and right (mainly christian parties) opposed it. They fear that this is yet another step that will lead to the end of special privileges and government grants for religious education, organisations and media. |
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2011-06-29, 13:30 | Link #14519 |
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goood news for those with degree in finance living in singapore
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2011-06-29, 14:55 | Link #14520 | |
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What they are looking for is low-cost analysts for the EA market and some market control - the Singapore government isn't going to give that up so easily.
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