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Old 2018-04-11, 11:30   Link #3501
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I took the explanation, from the manga, as the muscle form was his natural look before he got gravely injured by AfO. As he atrophied he used OfA too pump himself up to his muscle form kind of like when you flex from a relaxed position which is why Deku when he uses his the power he only slightly looks more muscular and the real power is the augmented abilities.
That's what I think too. However, that doesn't explain why he can still go into muscle form now that he's lost OFA, even if it's only for a few seconds now. Probably just a comedic effect and not something we should think about.
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Old 2018-04-11, 11:58   Link #3502
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That's what I think too. However, that doesn't explain why he can still go into muscle form now that he's lost OFA, even if it's only for a few seconds now. Probably just a comedic effect and not something we should think about.
Yeah..just like Deku's waterfall cry.
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Old 2018-04-11, 14:57   Link #3503
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That's what I think too. However, that doesn't explain why he can still go into muscle form now that he's lost OFA, even if it's only for a few seconds now. Probably just a comedic effect and not something we should think about.
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Yeah..just like Deku's waterfall cry.
it might be a comedic effect, or maybe remnants of the power or a real world effect used for comedy. Kind of like if you were buff then lose the muscle your muscles still swell up, no where near as much as they were, more than the average person. I say this because my younger half sister was a gymnast but her twin sister wasn't, now that we're grown up and she's lost her physique when both flex you could tell which one was a gymnast by the way their muscles tighten, or maybe I'm just crazy.
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Old 2018-04-12, 11:21   Link #3504
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I took the explanation, from the manga, as the muscle form was his natural look before he got gravely injured by AfO. As he atrophied he used OfA too pump himself up to his muscle form kind of like when you flex from a relaxed position which is why Deku when he uses his the power he only slightly looks more muscular and the real power is the augmented abilities.
and there is my biggest question

how or why does OFA have anything to do with muscle mass?
We know that having more muscles and strong build is crucial in using the stockpiled power of OFA, that's why Izuku had to train his body to keep up with the quirk.

But OFA itself doesn't really impact or have any effect on muscle, right?

For me it's like this:

Strong body & big muscle => more capability to use OFA

but the other way around: "OFA => strong body & big muscle" seems to applies only to All Might, because Deku is still relatively small
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Old 2018-04-13, 00:49   Link #3505
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and there is my biggest question

how or why does OFA have anything to do with muscle mass?
We know that having more muscles and strong build is crucial in using the stockpiled power of OFA, that's why Izuku had to train his body to keep up with the quirk.

But OFA itself doesn't really impact or have any effect on muscle, right?

For me it's like this:

Strong body & big muscle => more capability to use OFA

but the other way around: "OFA => strong body & big muscle" seems to applies only to All Might, because Deku is still relatively small
And there in lies the problem. What I think OfA does, and why you need a strong body, is that as the power courses through you it turns your body to the peak of human potential as well as giving you the extraordinary power. If your body isn't ready then it'll explode but with a body suited for it it fills you up swelling your veins, muscles, tendons etc; now the remnants of power inside Almight, let's say .005% OFA, is enough to pump him up but thats it.
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Old 2018-04-13, 14:18   Link #3506
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New chapter is out. Another hero candidate turned villain. Though I have to think that the graffiti on his wall was excessive. This... has really been a problem for them a long time.
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Old 2018-04-13, 15:41   Link #3507
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why did Gentle want to disturb the school festival again?

to prove a point? to make a name for himself?
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Old 2018-04-13, 16:01   Link #3508
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Got to love the parallels Gentle draws with early Deku.Both were driven to become heroes, both came across a wall when it came to that dream, and both jumped in when they saw someone in need. However while Deku jumping in was the start of his path as a hero, Gentle jumping in resulted in the end of his dream.
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why did Gentle want to disturb the school festival again?

to prove a point? to make a name for himself?
Basically the latter choice. Infiltrating the school when it's supposed to be at it's most guarded would break headlines and secure Gentle and La Brava their infamy.
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Old 2018-04-13, 18:32   Link #3509
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Ah I see now. Big difference between the Vigilantes that we know in the setting and Gentle is that the former acknowledges they will always be in the shadow of official heroes while Gentle is obsessed to be famous.

As such the former seek to help people even if it is illegal and not hindrance of official heroes. In fact act as support at times.

For Gentle it was no longer helping people but all about me. As such I see more of a parallel with Bakugou only talentless at the beginning.

No wonder he clashes with Deku.
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Old 2018-04-13, 19:01   Link #3510
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That last panel though.... who's the villain again ?

But this was a pretty great chapter. Didn't take too much to make Gentle into a relatable character, but just simply the not-so-big stakes in all of this outside its core coupled with the very climatic feeling of the fight as if something grandiose is at stake makes for such a wonderful contrast =03.
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Old 2018-04-13, 19:07   Link #3511
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Its really fun seeing Deku being in one of these extended fights and more than holding his own. And ironic that Gentle now makes great use of his quirk but couldn't even graduate from high school originally (but his quirk probably wasn't the problem). He's definitely not a supervillain but rather is just selfish (wanting fame and glory).

Too bad Deku's missing out on the festival, I wonder if Hound Dog has noticed yet, after those big attacks Deku and Gentle are throwing at each other.
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Old 2018-04-13, 19:59   Link #3512
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I'm going to be pissed if deku wins ;A;
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Old 2018-04-13, 20:02   Link #3513
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But, if he loses, the festival will definitely be canceled since Gentle and Lovelover will crash it. It still might if he's unlucky.
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Old 2018-04-13, 22:38   Link #3514
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- Ignore other feeling, Only himself matter
- Ignore surrounding, Only his possible goal matter
- Overestimated himself a lot
- Do not understand what really going on and why he is in this situation in the first place

I can see why he got hated a lot in social media and he seem to dug this hole further.
Unless he redeem himself and start from 0 I don't think he will have his good end
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Old 2018-04-13, 23:47   Link #3515
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OK. Gentle is the 2nd best villain after Stain. His goal may be small and selfish but he was really put his effort into it, after all he has nothing left in his life except his former dream, and that is why Deku and Gentle refused to step away because both of them have something that they need to fight for.

This arc alone > loloverhaul arc.
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Old 2018-04-14, 13:12   Link #3516
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I felt bad for Gentle. His life went down the drain because he tried to help somebody and screwed up. He's really selfish, but he's not a bad guy.
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Old 2018-04-14, 14:42   Link #3517
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And ultimately he acted when he didn't see a hero coming. He could've done it better by possibly using his Quirk on the ground so that the dude bounced instead of in the air where the flying hero ran into it, but his act was to stop someone who was falling to his death. It reminds me of that situation in Tiger and Bunny with the sand guy who tried to help and got a woman shot, so he got sent to prison.
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Old 2018-04-14, 15:04   Link #3518
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I'm glad we got to see more of Gentle's past. Still, I gotta wonder exactly how he sucked so much at hero school (a crappy one at that), considering how well he can control his quirk in the present time? I guess it was due more to his academic prowess rather than his physical? I mean, even the case with him injuring that hero looks like something he rectified since the mishap occurred (going to the trouble of committing non-violent crimes, even informing Deku during their fight that he was careful to not harm that old man who was watching), so I find it kind of a mystery how he was such an awful student (he doesn't really strike me as being dumb, either). Selfishness aside, I think he could've made a more decent pro than that bamboo dude who forgot him (speaking of him, I wonder if we'll see him again in the present time?). He'd be a sort of Endeavor-lite, so to speak... obsessed with fame and prestige, sure, but at least he wouldn't be an asshole about it, lol.

Anyway, as for my prediction of how the fight will end.... most likely, the fight will get interrupted by Hound Dog. He clearly caught a whiff of something early in the chapter, so I've no doubt he's now on the hunt. My guess is that the confusion caused by an outside interference will give Gentle and La Brava a chance to escape. But even then, I'm really more curious as to what the aftermath of this situation will be.....
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Old 2018-04-14, 19:24   Link #3519
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Is it just me or did the latest episode of the anime confirm the traitor is not among the students? They had a scene showing Shigaraki saying he heard about the location of the training camp from AFO and making preparations for the attack before the students even departed for it. I don't remember that in the manga.
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Old 2018-04-14, 19:51   Link #3520
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The adults themselves pointed out it had to be one of the staff in the aftermath.
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