2013-04-02, 21:52 | Link #301 | |
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Edit: Oh, if you maximize the Firefox window, the tabs flush to the top of the window. Silly behavior. Should always be like that. Not that I care. It's going to take a lot for me to switch from Chrome. Edit again: Yes, Chrome doesn't flush to the top in a non-maxi window, but the space isn't nearly as egregious. Third Edit: If I could have Chrome, with Internet Explorer's ability to put the address bar besides the tabs, rather than on separate rows, and Internet Explorer's rendering of fonts, and Safari/Opera's handling of a new tab page (ala Most Visited Sites), I'd be one happy camper.
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2013-04-02, 23:15 | Link #302 |
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One of the things that keeps me using Firefox as my lead browser over IE and Chrome is the amount of add-ons available to customise the browser to suit one's needs (that, and having a clusterf**k amount of tabs open, so Tab Groups come in handy). I remember back when FF 3.6 was still around and installed an add-on pack to make FF look more like the version 4 mockups. There should be an add-on or about:config preference that forces the FF button and tab bar to stay in the same row.
Alas, I consider the main advantage of IE10 (in Windows 8) and Chrome to be the integrated Flash Player, meaning I don't need to install and maintain it separately. On the topic of ad-blocking in Internet Explorer, there is a feature called Tracking Protection that does the job, albeit that it is somewhat rudimentary. I think it requires IE9 as a minimum. To access it, click on the Settings icon (the cog) on the right side of the browser, then hover over "Safety", then click on "Tracking Protection". IE should now open the "Manage Add-Ons" window, and from there you can make your own list, or subscribe to a list à la Adblock Plus by clicking on "Get a Tracking Protection List online..." (which includes EasyList and Fanboy's).
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2013-04-03, 00:37 | Link #303 |
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I guess I will never understand the need to have no title bar or the "wasted space" argument, especially over such small strips as in title bars.
Personally, I don't like things being crowded, especially on laptop and desktop monitors. A little space here and there is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. |
2013-04-03, 05:46 | Link #305 |
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I've been using Firefox since the early days (~2003) as at the time I worked in tech support (callcenter) and frequently had to access many different pages at once. Tabbed browsing was essential for this.
I haven't really found a compelling reason to switch to Chrome, certainly as one of the plugins I use most (Lastpass) doesn't integrate with Chrome as well as it does with Firefox, at least last time I tried. No. Firefox is about 10 years old. Mozilla is 15 years old. |
2013-04-03, 06:31 | Link #307 |
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Well, on my side I'm witnessing a pleasant trend reversal for Opera. Until this early January, I was still using Opera v11.64 because I wasn't impressed at all by the first 12.x builds. Even though I saw 11.64 as the "lesser evil", I still had to put up with its frequent, unidentified crashes (some happened while opening some webpages, others when the browser was idle). I tried deactivating/removing some plugins and still couldn't find the cause behind the instability. The early 12.x builds were still buggy and tended to crash as frequently as 11.64 (if not even more so) and, to add insult to injury, the guys from Opera Software dropped the ability to restore the tabs that were open right before a crash. As I often had 15-25 tabs open at all times, the loss of this "restore all tabs upon restart" functionality was unacceptable.
And so, in January, I tried v12.12 - except this time I didn't perform an upgrade, I installed 12.12 in a different location, next to 11.64. And since then, to my greatest and most exhilarating surprise, I have only suffered two or three browser crashes. Going from four-five crashes a day to almost only one per month is a gigantic leap, wouldn't you agree? 12.12 seems a bit slower in terms of startup and tab opening, compared to 11.64, but I'm definitely appreciating the substantially greater stability. Also upgraded IE to IE10 for W7 and this one caused very minor problems for me. 1°) Some elements on my local HTML files were displaying differently on IE10, especially in response to certain CSS events (:hover, most notably) - turns out I only had to change another CSS parameter to get things back to normal (now that I think of it, the CSS parameter change kind of makes sense now, so I'm not sure I should even be calling it a bug). Not a showstopper or big complaint by any means, but it's quite aggravating when you can't pinpoint what exactly is causing IE10 to render a webpage differently than IE9. Very small details like this can scrape at the back of your mind for days on end. 2°) They changed the DOM Storage option in IE10. For some reason, it played well (while activated, of course) with my Battlelog Web Plugin (as I play BF3) in IE9, but not in IE10. Curious. Oh, and it seems IE10 has finally added auto spell check to its list of features, but it doesn't seem to work everywhere (probably the websites in question not allowing it or interfering with the process).
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2013-04-03, 09:38 | Link #308 | |
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C:\Users\<Your Username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles I don't have any problem with recent FF versions. Previous versions (about a year ago or so) did tend to hang when Flash crashed (kind of often), but I haven't had that problem for a while now. |
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2013-04-03, 20:22 | Link #312 | |
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It is beyond my comprehension why there would be two? three? separate dictionaries maintained by Google. The second aggravating thing about spell check in Chrome is that in some fields, especially in message boards, it'll underline a word as spelled incorrectly, but then sporadically (Chrome is claiming sporadically is misspelled, but google search has no issues, lol), remove the underline and pretend it is spelled correctly, and no amount of highlighting/right clicking will allow you to look up the correct spelling even though you know that Chrome knows it isn't spelled correctly. So, sure, Chrome has always felt like a very beta product, but it has the simplest UI of the major browsers, and for that reason alone I continue to use it. Oh, the dev channel also had a nasty habit of constantly breaking "auto open" for files, which as a torrenter, was annoying. But, I don't think I've run into that issue for at least a year now. One thing I'd love to see in a browser that could cause me to switch is a way to sign in and out of the browser easily, so I can use my synced bookmarks on a public computer and then erase them simply by signing out. You sign out of Chrome, and your bookmarks, etc, stay in the browser.
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2013-04-04, 00:56 | Link #313 |
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Google introduces Blink, a new open source rendering engine based on WebKit:
http://blog.chromium.org/2013/04/bli...-chromium.html In other news... Mozilla is collaborating with Samsung on a web browser engine called Servo, written in Rust, a new, safe systems language developed by Mozilla: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/0...rowser-engine/ |
2013-04-04, 23:49 | Link #315 |
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I've been a Firefox zealot for a long long time. But Thunderbird and Firefox are starting to lumber badly. Chrome is slick but I miss the add-ons and extensions Firefox has.
I end up using both, depending on the need.
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2013-04-05, 00:14 | Link #316 |
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The last time, when I dropped Firefox was when it started hogging GBs of memory (working set or VM I can't remember) after leaving it on for a few days.
Anyway, last time I checked, Chrome was still the most compliant with respect to HTML5. I've never checked Opera's score before though. And interestingly, when I did some site visits to my customers' offices, some of them still have internal pages that can't be read properly by anything other than IE =_=; |
2013-04-05, 06:25 | Link #318 |
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I use many browser all day long for my job. I can tell that they all take crazy amount of resources after a while. They all go over 1.5GB of used ram on my 4GB. Than, even if you close all the tab, it won't go down.
As for web standard, I'm a web developer, I can tell that I do as much browser specific fix for chrome that I do for IE8 in term of CSS. I use firefox for web development because the tool are better. firebug > webkit equivalent = dragonfly (opera) |
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Dragonfly last I checked was still awful, if you call that equivalent to chrome's developer tools you obviously haven't tried any of them. (IE's developer tools are still the most horrible implementation to grace the web)
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