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I can't really recall much right now, I'm still to watch Traumend again. But I really wanted to know more about this. I thought something like "The dolls wake up and make up those calls to be "adopted" in order to get energy for a bigger life-span", but it wouldn't make sense, as they aren't awakened unless someone uses their key to make them "work". Laplace certainly sounds like a good person to put there, pulling the strings from the back stage, as it's certainly known that he does. However, I wonder who he really is. Also, does anyone have any idea of why jun has German books in his storage room? It seems really odd that he has the books shinku was currently reading in Traumend, because there wasn't just one or two. She always had a different one. It sometimes hits me that Jun might really be someone related to Rozen, family-wise. But I don't know. Bleh, brain's frozen for now.
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2006-03-23, 22:20 | Link #1342 |
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Kirakishou is already strong, give her a spirit and her powers will multiply!
We all know that RM can kiss and cause special effects. So far, we know 3. Shinku's kiss- does nothing/make person relax. Suigintou's kiss- puts you to sleep. Kirakishou's kiss- KILLS YOU! |
2006-03-23, 22:24 | Link #1343 | |
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2006-03-23, 22:31 | Link #1345 | |
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And they must had an interest in German books, buy lots of them and had them all shipped back to their home in Japan. And Nori (Not Jun. He didn't know where all those books come from), having no idea where to put those books, and all the other stuff their parents shipped back, left them all in the storeroom. And Shinku must had been exploring the houses and by her fortune, found them. Or maybe Rozen, upon knowing where Shinku is, shipped all the books from the N-field and left them all in the storeroom. |
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I think it might have a further explanation in the series. Btw, little off-topic, but this is what I'm currently working on: Note: Don't worry about the crappyness. Will fix it in due time :P Spoiler:
These're my characters. The one in the middle, might you try to guess who it is? Lol. Edit: Quote:
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2006-03-23, 22:43 | Link #1349 | |
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You guys did a great work analising them though Henceforth.., after reading and *pondering*, *pondering*, *pondering*... I'll have to say, it realy is quite possible that Jun might someone related to Rozen but has no idea.., the fact that his parents aren't there aswell makes it even more possible, for we can't confirm they're origins.. Since Nori is a compleat clutz.., she stashed away all the books in the basement, along with the old mirror, etc. - thus this fits all together aswell If Jun realy is related to Rozen... it realy would explain ALOT of questions. But still not a clue about the artificial spirits or the process in the awake of a Rozen maiden |
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2006-03-23, 22:45 | Link #1350 | |
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2006-03-23, 22:55 | Link #1351 | |
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I think that the quantity of wings / petals, etc. is based on the power of the Rozen Maiden..., we have seen that when using the power from a medium they become much stronger; though even without a medium they must have a degree of limited power they can use. As in the 1st season Gin didn't have a medium, so she was fighting on her own.., she ended using using great quantities of power in alot of feathers, and eventualy when near the limit she sent out a last strike with one of her wings to take down Sousei Seki and Suisei Seki. We also see the protective barriers they used beeing influenced by how much powerfull they are; in traumend when Gin meets Bara, she stroms her with feathers, but its not until when she starts to drain energy from Meg that she is able to send a father through Bara's barrier. By the way, in that scene.. the way Bara says "Sugoi" its just amazing... |
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2006-03-23, 23:00 | Link #1352 | |
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And Shinku also explains that it is very rare for two maidens to be awake at the same time, which really brings about the age of them. I'd say they're over 200 years old. Therefore, Rozen couldn't be in Jun's direct family. However, the do might have a part of the family that relates to him, somehow. This would definetly explain Jun's excellency at doing manual labor and his ability to fix the Maidens up. About their spirits, all I know is that all of them are named after Female perfumes. Sui Dream, though, is the one that sounds the most kickass to me. (With Suisei saying it like "SUIIIDO DUREAMU").
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2006-03-23, 23:06 | Link #1353 |
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If Jun is reallly related to Rozen....
Rozen: Luke....oh wait....*ahem*.....Jun, I am your great great great granfather! Jun: Nooooooooo~ oh wait, would that make the dolls you created my great great aunties? Rozen: In a way, yes. Jun: *Insert Vader's voice* Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo~ |
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OK, NOW HE'S DOING IT WITH A DOLL...AND IT'S INCEST! I suppose this should be animated. It'd make whomever does it filthy rich.
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2006-03-23, 23:27 | Link #1355 |
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Well, calling Jun a maestro does not necessarily mean that he is related to Rozen. It could mean he is exceptionally talented in the arts, as we can see with his sewing skills.
Suigintou mentioned that only a 'maestro' can fix a doll. From there, we know that Rozen is a maestro of doll-making. That also means that Jun is another maestro, though possibly in his case, a maestro in sewing. Suigintou didn't say that the maestro had to be a master of doll-making, so seeing that Jun is a maestro, though not in doll-making but in sewing, he too had the ability to fix dolls. Which makes me think, does that mean that if Rozen decides to take Jun as his apprentice, any doll that Jun creates would have the quality comparable with Rozen's? |
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@Mincemaker/Flo: O' levels, Diploma? Sounds familiar.. Where are you two from? Quote:
@Mince: Jun Maidens definitely dont sound right.. |
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2006-03-23, 23:32 | Link #1357 | |
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In the anime-context, yeah, I'd say that if that were to happen, he probably could make a doll as good as the Maidens. Or he could even create Alice, with enough teaching... Which, brings here a BIIIIG new point. What if all of this is just to "train" Jun into getting used to the dolls and understanding the importance of them, and all of that, so that he could one day create the true Alice? HMMM.
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2006-03-23, 23:37 | Link #1358 | |
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Also, if Creating Alice can be taught, why didnt Rozen create her in the first place... |
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2006-03-23, 23:46 | Link #1360 |
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I'm from Singapore. And yeah, Jun maidens don't sound right.
And regarding Suiseiseki, it is very clear that she really likes Jun (we see that in Season 1 where she gave Suigintou her artificial spirit because she couldn't bear to see Jun hurt, and in season 2, two or three more episodes). Probably she even planned to make a contract with him after a day or 2 since she met him, but too shy to ask, until Bara came and forced her to ask. If there ever is a season 3, I think there is going to be tension between Suiseiseki and Shinku, seeing that Shinku is hogging most of Jun's affection and Suiseiseki wanted his affection as well, and received little. Rozen is an artist, so he obviously thinks like one. Most artists want to continue their legacy, even if their work doesn't serve a purpose. |
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