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Old 2016-12-09, 00:59   Link #8681
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Realistically making a healthy relationship in harem very impossible.
There are lot things to address starting from the girls characters, their relationship to each others be foes or friendly.
Good things for Rito because his girls are D lover for him he probably would have a blissful harem life. But let's face this does harem plan will emerge any good to everyone?
Harem plan only will do good for primal desires but won't do any good for future especially for the guy will succeed universal empire.
Once Rito impregnated every girls there are going to happen an internal conflict in royal family by Rito children to succeed the throne. a faction will split into two royal children (Lala,Momo,Nana kids) and mongrel chilren (Haruna,Yami and etc kids ) those kids going to fight over throne and Devilluke finally down thanks for Princess Momo desperate lusty desire. That is the true ending of TLRD if we skim into future.
Well said. Harem is a disaster when it comes to the royal family. The inevitable civil war will destroy everything on its wake. True Harem is only works if the MC became immortal and destroyed the minds of his concubines to reduce them into a brainless sex puppet and no offspring.

Love is always selfish. Instead of making everyone happy, Momo should have focus on her own happiness and actually fight for Rito's affection instead of scheming a harem plan.

It would be much better and different if Rito is the one who want to initiate the harem plan on his own will.

And.....

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Old 2016-12-09, 01:06   Link #8682
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But Nemesis and Momo.
There are limits of how other girls can take.
The other girls are not Yui, but most of them are obviously against what these two masterminds are doing.
I say Mea is also can be a potential mastermind too.
Though Mea's intentions are not completely clear.

You are right, this is fiction, I really forgot.
Though it is intended to be inappropriate, excitements are actually there.
As Momo, Nemesis, and maybe Mea are plotting something really big, for me it is kind of awkward though.
It is just that, not so bearable to see Rito like that in the recent chapter, I thought Nemesis lost her mind.
Nana joining the committee was set up for this I guess.
Yami might also assist Nana and Yui to fight against these "perpetrators" of upcoming disasters.
I'm wildly guessing way more enormous scale than the Yami's Darkness incident.
I won't be surprised if Mikan and her friends are caught up in this too.
There is something about Rito's true awakening might take place too, that Rito won't a normal boy anymore, it just came up on my mind out of nowhere, no not the images of the principal.

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Old 2016-12-09, 01:42   Link #8683
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People are seeing only the bad sides of Momo but they forget the good ones. Momo knows more about Rito and his likes/dislikes than any girl in the series except Mikan. She took that additional time to learn what her loves interests are and can act on those to please the needs. As a princess she didnt really need to do anything yet from her own will she started to learn how to cook, no one was forcing her to do it but she just wants to be ready if she was a wife. We can see her helping Mikan doing laudry, fixing Ritos collar, playing with Celine ect.

Not even Lala or Nana took their time to learn those, they hang out with either Haruna or Mea or lie around and wait for food.

So seriously guys back off a bit becouse ya only see the perv moments but in moments between she is helping in the house a lot and has to take care of her tokyo sized flower garden.

If we look on manipulations then Lala was the one that had done the biggest dmg. becouse she was the orginal couse of the birth of the harem idea and she is still going on with this even now. Momo just jumped on the already moving train, and now other passangers are awaited to jump on it.


Anyway I wonder what Nemesis is even planing to do by becoming a school president, hard for me to get any clue... like maybe she will gain access to schools students files and so she can find harem candidates. Time will tell but she might start from Yui, so I have a feeling next chapter will be about Yui or even Rin.
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Old 2016-12-09, 03:09   Link #8684
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I am clearly aware this is fiction (Obviously, duh) i just pointed out what logically should happen to Momo harem plan end to answered Rladis2121 question with my personal opinion, of course that prediction of mine would obsolete i had given up to this manga plot for so long.

@Sixth
Speaking true harem end Maou no hajimekata MC is immortal he rapes every girls into his harem he even admitted that he would no have any problem to have any kids for that will not disturb his immortal reign.
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My point is, if the powerful, rich and competent MC cannot handle many women at once, why would people think that Rito, a normal guy, will able to manage it?
In BS View :Like Fairy tail with nakama armor Rito will have a plot armor named harem MC armor to become his lucky weapon to manage his harem
In Logical View: He shouldn't able as normal man not to mention he need to manage inter planetary problem beside his harem. He need power and decent development to worth get recognition.
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There is something about Rito's true awakening might take place too, that Rito won't a normal boy anymore, it just came up on my mind out of nowhere, no not the images of the principal.
Of course he is not normal boy anymore, none any boys who spent his 24/7 with accidentally grope a girls boobs
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Old 2016-12-09, 03:46   Link #8685
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This isn't the kind of series where we should expect logical or realistic conclusion and the author is very clear about that tbh.

There was a scene where Yami said Rito's falling even defies the law of nature , Mikado tried to cure him with science and logic but in the end gave up, calling it a natural disaster or will of the universe
it's that kind of series.
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Old 2016-12-09, 03:50   Link #8686
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People are seeing only the bad sides of Momo but they forget the good ones. Momo knows more about Rito and his likes/dislikes than any girl in the series except Mikan. She took that additional time to learn what her loves interests are and can act on those to please the needs. As a princess she didnt really need to do anything yet from her own will she started to learn how to cook, no one was forcing her to do it but she just wants to be ready if she was a wife. We can see her helping Mikan doing laudry, fixing Ritos collar, playing with Celine ect.

Not even Lala or Nana took their time to learn those, they hang out with either Haruna or Mea or lie around and wait for food.
We get all those things kid the problem is the bad far outweighs the good.

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So seriously guys back off a bit becouse ya only see the perv moments but in moments between she is helping in the house a lot and has to take care of her tokyo sized flower garden.
Of course we don't see all of the other stuff this is TLR perv moments are all it has

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If we look on manipulations then Lala was the one that had done the biggest dmg. becouse she was the orginal couse of the birth of the harem idea and she is still going on with this even now. Momo just jumped on the already moving train, and now other passangers are awaited to jump on it


Anyway I wonder what Nemesis is even planing to do by becoming a school president, hard for me to get any clue... like maybe she will gain access to schools students files and so she can find harem candidates. Time will tell but she might start from Yui, so I have a feeling next chapter will be about Yui or even Rin.
Lala said that because she's an airhead and said it jokingly like let's do this. The train isn't moving at al it's just Momo is taking on that same mentality. Plus we all remember how Lala's father forced Lala on Rito in the beginning of the series. We've just mostly gotten over it.

Nemesis being president allows her to directly get to the girls. Plus she's far more observant but she'll also be just as manipulative as Momo.
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Old 2016-12-09, 04:22   Link #8687
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I would like to see Rito having a talk with Gid about all this
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Old 2016-12-09, 05:01   Link #8688
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Knowing Rito, there is no way he wants to take advantage of his falling.
But it just seems to me as if Momo and Nemesis somehow wants to take advantage of it.
I felt sorry for him when he actually despaired of how his symptoms cannot be cured.

He does not want to make his relationship awkward with his friends and family because of that.
And to be disliked at most.

Nemesis can be a problem.
Even though she thinks it is best for Rito.
The way Nemesis transform to anyone as she want.
What Nemesis just did to Rito when she transformed into Rito, I can imagine many bad things are going to happen once Nemesis is legal to acts freely around the school.
I can't help but to think Rito is going to be beat to a pulp like he usually did, but the cause is actually going to be way more serious this time.

Sorry I got serious again.
But I guess it is kind of fun to be serious.
I know this series is supposed to be a comedy.
I have been watching other animes so much that I got influenced.
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Old 2016-12-09, 06:51   Link #8689
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Rito is already considering the Harem Plan seriously. Has been for a while now. Let's not forget that dream he had recently.

And as for the stuff that can happen in a royal family harem. We don't need to care about that sort of stuff in a fictional story like this one unless the author shows us that kind of stuff in the characters' future. Unless we actually see it, it won't happen and it'll all be fine. Because this is a fictional story.

@Imperial: So you're just worried that the stories I mentioned might not get a True Harem "because anything can happen until the series ends"? I don't think you need to worry that much. Let's just hope that the authors of those stories aren't dumb and/or careless enough to pull a Tsuki-Tsuki on us.

As for the other stuff that Momo does that isn't perverted: It actually is there, but the pervy stuff sticks out more like a sore thumb because this is just that sort of manga.
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Old 2016-12-09, 09:45   Link #8690
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@Imperial: So you're just worried that the stories I mentioned might not get a True Harem "because anything can happen until the series ends"? I don't think you need to worry that much. Let's just hope that the authors of those stories aren't dumb and/or careless enough to pull a Tsuki-Tsuki on us.

As for the other stuff that Momo does that isn't perverted: It actually is there, but the pervy stuff sticks out more like a sore thumb because this is just that sort of manga.
Let's face it you never know with most of them. But back to this. let's pay attention to what we know.
Even if Rito gets HIS mentality to change the girls have to change their mentality which is the biggest wild card of all.
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Old 2016-12-09, 13:20   Link #8691
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Well said. Harem is a disaster when it comes to the royal family. The inevitable civil war will destroy everything on its wake. True Harem is only works if the MC became immortal and destroyed the minds of his concubines to reduce them into a brainless sex puppet and no offspring.

Love is always selfish. Instead of making everyone happy, Momo should have focus on her own happiness and actually fight for Rito's affection instead of scheming a harem plan.

It would be much better and different if Rito is the one who want to initiate the harem plan on his own will.

And.....

Spoiler for WN True Harem MC and Rito:
Come on, what disaster you are talking about? As I remember, Even Gid wanted harem, but Sephie was against it.
My point of view that Rito deserves a harem (the main problem that arose, whether the other girls agree with this plan), as situation now only Momo, Lala and Nemesis really help him in this. Someone talked about it earlier, but main problem is Rito himself
P.S About WN harem series (especially Isekai series). It's what doesn't deserve your time
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Old 2016-12-09, 15:43   Link #8692
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There are also some girls who first need to be convinced, even if Rito agrees. Haruna, Yui, Nana, Run, and maybe some other human and alien girls (barring Lala and Momo; Yami might agree more easily).

As for Gid's situation: The main reason Sephie didn't allow him to have a harem was that she knew he'd neglect his duties just so he could have fun with women. With Rito, there's no need to worry about that and that's why Sephie approved of the Harem Plan and even gave Momo some advice.
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Old 2016-12-09, 17:21   Link #8693
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You sure? From what I've read, the reason why Gid can't have Harem because Sephie don't want to share Gid to others.
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Old 2016-12-09, 17:57   Link #8694
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There are also some girls who first need to be convinced, even if Rito agrees. Haruna, Yui, Nana, Run, and maybe some other human and alien girls (barring Lala and Momo; Yami might agree more easily).

As for Gid's situation: The main reason Sephie didn't allow him to have a harem was that she knew he'd neglect his duties just so he could have fun with women. With Rito, there's no need to worry about that and that's why Sephie approved of the Harem Plan and even gave Momo some advice.

Not fully approved, IMO it was more like "Ask yourself if you are doing what you really want. If you do then I'm ok with this"

So basically she's telling Momo to reconsider her plan and what her true feelings are, and only if she truly wants what she does then its ok.
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Old 2016-12-09, 18:11   Link #8695
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You sure? From what I've read, the reason why Gid can't have Harem because Sephie don't want to share Gid to others.
When you consider how he acted when he came to Rito's school back in TLR it's easy to see that him with a harem is a bad idea.
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Old 2016-12-14, 08:32   Link #8696
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Wonder when the Harem plan will actually start taking shape, all they are doing now is mentioning it every few chapters.
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Old 2016-12-14, 20:06   Link #8697
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It's not that easy to convince that many earth girls. I mean, can you imagine Kotegawa or even Haruna agree to this? I see some difficulties there
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Old 2016-12-14, 20:20   Link #8698
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Haruna wants him for her alone butdoesn't want to confess to him, that's a bigger problem.
She is a Status Quo enabler.
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Old 2016-12-14, 20:43   Link #8699
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if only haruna could act like the ''normal'' girl from Kyou no Cerberus.
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Old 2016-12-15, 05:41   Link #8700
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Haruna wants him for her alone butdoesn't want to confess to him, that's a bigger problem.
She is a Status Quo enabler.
You're right but Haruna's confession cannot take place until their ready to end the series.

When Haruna confesses the story will be at it's conclusion because she's the last piece of the puzzle and from there the rest will fall into place easily. Haruna can be convinced by Lala and Rito. Kotegawa can be convinced because as "shameless" as it is you could say that those are the rules of devilukean society. Rin can be convinced by also getting Zastin to marry Saki. Risa (if you really want to add her) can be convinced because she's a dirty old man and will enjoy threesome action.
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