2016-12-01, 21:20 | Link #341 | |
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What? He explicitly said it sounded like a marriage proposal because Yuuri worded it as one. The language they are speaking is Japanese, because of seiyuus, but the meta language is English. I really can't understand what are you trying to even say in this. It doesn't matter that Viktor doesn't know Japanese, the authorial intent spoken and lampshaded by a character was like it was like a marriage proposal, so anyone with two braincells would have worded it as one when trying to make the message gone through, whether it was in English, Spanish or French. It doesn't matter. The way they translated it makes absolutely no sense with Victor's response. Because it was just shoddily done like half of the effort they put in the show. Languages are never literal, they are always contextual and have social catchphrases. Edit: I forgot to put an example, if I tell you: "shmaster, I'll be faithful in sickness and in health!" You'll go: "woah, it's almost like a wedding vow!", regardless of what we were addressing before, because for our culture, that is part of wedding vows. It's not necessarily like that in Japan, though. They could probably say that I'm just a loyal friend without the cultural knowledge that makes that a wedding vow. So it wouldn't be appropriate to make a literal translation when there's going to be some cultural dissonance.
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2016-12-02, 04:44 | Link #342 | |
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I was going to say the exact same thing.
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Ep 6: - Guess they couldn't get the rights to the actual ISU fanfare. - Christophe's coach is a doppelganger of Czech skater Michal Brezina's coach Karl Fajfr. He does wear those ridiculous glasses and was also fined for sexually abusing some of his students. - Singles skating started allowing lyrics in program music in the 2013-14 season. I don't like it there or here. - I can't think of a coach/skater team who were as close in age as Yuuri and Victor. This is probably a good thing. - Leo de la Iglesia's coach at 17:00 is a reference to Rohene Ward (on the left), who is fucking fabulous. Does this mean Leo is Jason Brown? Neither of them have quadruple jumps but get high performance scores. - And now I hate Christophe because actual Swiss skater Stephane Lambiel is my favorite and he's infinitely more charming and sweet and perfect overall. Ep 7: - Pull yourself together, Yuuri. Lock yourself in a bathroom again or something. Shit. - Already referred to, but the flower crown is such a clear Johnny Weir shout out. He's such a Russian fanboy he must be delighted. - Actually, Yuuri, you're okay. Pull yourself together, Chris. Other people have to skate on that ice. - One of the little details: Yurio skates on MK Revolution blades, the "X" shaped blades you might see younger skaters wearing. Most older skaters, and every other character in YoI, are wearing the usual straight blades (well, sort of usual, in that they have design enhancements for high level skating). - What about those gas fumes in the parking lot? A rooftop would have been more romantic, Victor. - Georgi's programs remind me of all of the random programs by people who seem to understand they're not in top contention and so do something sort of outside the box. - "This program realizes all Victor lacks as a skater." The hell does that mean, since there seems to be nothing that Victor lacks as a skater, despite being a lucky fuckup as a coach. - A quad flip was only just achieved this year by Shoma Uno of Japan. Incidentally, he is going to the actual Grand Prix Final in a week and a half. - While dating or marrying a partner or fellow skater is more common, a few have been in relationships with their coach, most recently Samuel Contesti (ITA) who was coached by his wife. For more ill advised hookups in the skating world, look no farther than Nikolai Morozov, who has been seen creeping on literally every skater he has trained in the last decade or so and recently married one once she turned 18 and he was done grooming her or whatever. Once I watched him eat hot dogs off of a trash can. Ep 8: - No reference to what's been going on vis a vis Victor and Yuuri's relationship over the last couple of weeks. I wasn't really expecting there to be, but couldn't help hoping. - Victor's already faced Yuuri in competition. Do your homework, journalist lady. - Yurio is bitter as hell, but still kept Victor's program. - Connection issues, no one broadcasting, having to stay up till all hours to watch events going on on the other side of the world... the struggle is real. - Seung-Gil's calculations mid-program is not quite accurate, considering he's only thinking of his technical skill. He'd also get dinged on having a bad landing, which would be a deduction on his presentation score. - Is Emil Tomas Verner? Did I already ask that? - Good thing Mickey and Sara didn't end up an ice dancing sibling pair or his obsession would be way worse. - Poor Yurio. - Yeah, you mean to tell me whether Victor would stay and keep coaching his damn boyfriend even if he failed to make the GPF didn't come up a single time in three weeks? Hell no. - lol the organ music that started playing when they saw Yurio of the ever changing hairstyle and length. - I can't really imagine Yurio playing Eros, because he's got no sex appeal yet. - Too bad there's not really this much original music in skating. Obligatory music - Carmen, Nessun Dorma, Firebird, Scheherezade, Malaguena, Requiem for a Dream and Amelie were everywhere for a while, Swan Lake, Romeo and Juliet, Phantom of the Opera. There needs to be a moratorium. - Skaters should only be allowed to kiss the ice if they've just skated a lights-out program for the Olympic/World gold or if they're retiring. Plus that ice is filthy. Ep 9: - That katsudon pirozhki looks rad. - Music from Tron and the Matrix were popular, too. - Did they let Japanese announcer guy write his own lines? "Four quads, a superhuman feat" sounds like something he would say. - For a second I thought Yurio was going to be doing eight quadruple jumps in his free program. What's his repertoire of quads? Toe loop, salchow, and... - Yurio's collar would hit him in the face during his program and the pieces on his boots would get caught. This is not a feasible getup, plus it is ugly. At least his hair looks good. - It's not unusual for skaters to put their skates in checked bags when they fly to competitions (although I've never had a problem taking them in carry-ons) leading to the occasional crisis if the bags are lost. Competitors have lent them their skates for such times. Heh.
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2016-12-02, 10:47 | Link #343 | |
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2016-12-02, 11:15 | Link #344 |
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Maccachin-shaped tissuebox holders will be sold this January. Get one for 3400 yen.
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2016-12-07, 15:36 | Link #345 |
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Episode 10
Wow that ring. I mean...wow, didn't expect to see that scene at all. Anyways, good breather/build-up episode this week. So hyped for the final few episodes with the competition again. Also, that ED theme song this week is masterfully crafted!
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2016-12-07, 15:44 | Link #347 |
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So that's what it was about because I heard that wall of scream again. It was louder than Episode 7's.
EDIT: The special ending for Episode 10 is golden. Golden. XD And what we have been seeing was all because of Yuri planting that seed of an idea. Last edited by leongsh; 2016-12-07 at 16:08. |
2016-12-07, 15:57 | Link #348 |
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I'd like to point out how amazing the ED sequence was and how cute and beautiful it is that Yuri was the one actually asking Victor to be his coach - he just didn't remember because he was drunk . Adding that touch so casually was a wonderful plot beat IMHO - it makes us re-evaluate the entire show in a different light, and it was a scene coming from what seemed like a throwaway joke during the episode.
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2016-12-07, 16:28 | Link #349 |
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Yeah, the ED sequence was amazing, and turned things on their head. For all the people who asked just why Victor decided to become Yuri's coach, this was the thing that started the ball rolling. The way that was just dropped in as part of a conversation was perfect.
While this week's episode rested heavily on recap - presumably to give the animators time to gear up for the big finish - that ring sequence I think leaves no doubt here. Liked Yurio escaping from his fangirls too. |
2016-12-07, 17:37 | Link #350 |
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Just some quick thoughts: That ED was unexpected and completely fantastic. I thought it was a cute joke at first, but that scene afterwards explains and changes so much of what we've seen.
Other highlights for me were everyone leaving as soon as JJ showed up (started guffawing there) and Phichit's best man toast. The ring exchange happening in front of the church with bells ringing was pretty reminiscent of a wedding. And we got a lot of insight into Victor, finally. Also, nice to see what the other skaters are up to: -Georgi is finally moving on. -Michele doesn't seem to realize it's Seung-Gil who Sala is after. -Minami has become the leader of Yuuri's fan club. Lastly, Chris overload. Someone censor that man! |
2016-12-07, 18:50 | Link #351 |
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Enlarging that frame with the invoice on it shows that Yuri paid about 1,200 Euros for those rings, "on installment." What Barcelona jewelry store is going to let some guy from Japan pay on installment?
More to the point, where did Yuri get that kind of money? He clearly isn't working at other jobs. It seems unlikely he earned enough from his few skating appearances to pay the bills either. At home he can live with his parents, but who is financing the international travel for these guys? Do they get stipends from national skating organizations?
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2016-12-07, 20:34 | Link #354 | |
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Viktor is prob getting some royalties from the Macchin toy.
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2016-12-07, 20:44 | Link #355 |
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Japanese credit cards operate slightly different from what you understand the US/UK credit cards operate. The expectation for Japanese credit cards on repayment is that like a charge card, i.e the full amount of purchase is paid off in the subsequent month. They also have an option for the purchase to be paid on instalment but it has to be specified upfront on purchase for the purchase to be marked as such.
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2016-12-07, 20:47 | Link #356 |
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I see. So the retailer probably gets paid the full amount up front while the credit card issuer has to monitor its customer's installments. My reaction came from the idea that a retailer in Barcelona would somehow have to make sure Yuuri kept up with his monthly installments. It makes more sense if that task is taken on by the credit-card issuer.
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i wasn't being nitpicky, just asking what seemed a reasonable question since I know nothing of the world of professional figure skating. I'm guessing they get some money from endorsements; I recall seeing someone, Yuuri I think, wearing an item with a Mizuno logo. Equipment endorsements seem like they would be less lucrative than in sports like golf or skiing.
I know more about professional golf than other sports. When players start out in their careers they usually have private sponsors who pick up the tab in exchange for a share of future earnings on tour. Often these are wealthy local businessmen who may know the prospective player from his spending time at their country clubs. I suppose one might imagine the same process at work in figure skating, though I doubt hanging around rinks would be as lucrative as hanging out at private country clubs. All that led me to wonder whether there are professional sponsorship organizations that pay people like Yuuri a stipend to develop their talents. Quote:
I realize Yamamoto-san is more interested in the glitz and romance and less concerned about the more mundane aspects of being a professional skater. I myself wonder about those things so I asked.
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2016-12-07, 22:52 | Link #359 | |
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2016-12-07, 22:52 | Link #360 |
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God where do I start?
We get Viktor's narration. We get the actual reason he came to coach Yuuri We get Phichit being Phichit We get an ED for the ages We got rings. At this point the GPX is the icing on the wedding cake because I'm floored at how good this anime is every single week.
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