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Old 2008-04-18, 21:50   Link #981
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We like to complain about translations, usually just because we're against the Americanizing of the series; it'll lose its feel to some people. I myself want it out so I can own a copy which I van read at night with a light on behind me.
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Old 2008-04-18, 23:07   Link #982
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You guys are forgetting two things:
1. If they completely censor any of Haruhi, there shall be a holy war. A large one.
2. I can see them cutting down on some of the swearing, and maybe be slightly less descriptive of the risque scenes, and when they're done with that, they could slap a "Young Adult" label on it and say "lolheregiveusmunnayz".
That's what it appears they're going to be doing, anyhow... >_>
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Old 2008-04-18, 23:22   Link #983
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The thing is that they never seem to have translators with any idea of the culture of Japan, they could always hire a Japanese translator rather than one from elsewhere, after all they ought to know their own culture the best.
I took my undergrad studies at a university in Tokyo, living there for five years, and got my degree in Japanese/English translation, so I *AM* a professional, and I can tell you that it's the editors and marketing people that throw the monkey wrench into things--it's the same sort of executive meddling that gives us watered-down TV shows in America.

As for the Baka-tsuki translations, after having read both them and the original Japanese, I can say that the translations are accurate, but need much more work to smooth them out.
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Old 2008-04-18, 23:28   Link #984
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*Opens up his copies of the official Korean translation*
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Old 2008-04-19, 00:00   Link #985
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You guys are forgetting two things:
1. If they completely censor any of Haruhi, there shall be a holy war. A large one.
2. I can see them cutting down on some of the swearing, and maybe be slightly less descriptive of the risque scenes, and when they're done with that, they could slap a "Young Adult" label on it and say "lolheregiveusmunnayz".
That's what it appears they're going to be doing, anyhow... >_>
There's no swearing. I don't remember any.

It's rated 16+, i.e. pretty much an adult rating.
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Old 2008-04-19, 00:13   Link #986
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The risque scenes aren't bad enough to warrant censoring IMO even if they're going for a YA rating. I've read implied sex scenes in YA books before, for goodness' sake.

But there's really no point in worrying until we have the books in our hands next April.
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Old 2008-04-19, 00:20   Link #987
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What risque scenes?
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Old 2008-04-19, 00:21   Link #988
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I can only think of molestation and cosplay rape.
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Old 2008-04-19, 00:23   Link #989
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I can only think of molestation and cosplay rape.
Those would be the risque scenes, yeah.

The only other one I can think of is Kyon shoving Alt-Yuki up against the wall in Vol. 4... but that's not really sexual, from Kyon's perspective.
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Old 2008-04-19, 02:53   Link #990
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What risque scenes?
We should add the obtaining the conputer by ''blackmailing'' scene.
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:05   Link #991
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We should add the obtaining the conputer by ''blackmailing'' scene.
... But this scene, along with the other ones mentioned, are never portrayed in an erotic or even sexual way. I'm not sure if the 16+ rating is necessary, but better safe than sorry, I suppose.
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Old 2008-04-19, 10:07   Link #992
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I took my undergrad studies at a university in Tokyo, living there for five years, and got my degree in Japanese/English translation, so I *AM* a professional, and I can tell you that it's the editors and marketing people that throw the monkey wrench into things--it's the same sort of executive meddling that gives us watered-down TV shows in America.

As for the Baka-tsuki translations, after having read both them and the original Japanese, I can say that the translations are accurate, but need much more work to smooth them out.
Really? Never knew that! That gives us some insights on it.

I don't find a reason really to censor anything, they could just slap on a 16+ and just let the good times role. But really nothing was sexual in the series really; except probably snow mountain syndrome, with the Mikuru copy appearing and all. But nothing happens other than the tempting and all, really nothing to warrant censoring.
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Old 2008-04-19, 10:38   Link #993
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For some reason, books are given a lot more leniency than other forms of entertainment (I've heard A Clockwork Orange is a summer reading assignment in some highschools), so I really doubt we have much to worry about in terms of censoring.
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Old 2008-04-19, 10:40   Link #994
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Clockwork Orange used in highschool? Yet, Flowers for Algernon is banned in a couple of places XD. Well the thing is that they are more lenient to violence, sexuality on the other hand; not so much. Weird world like that <.<
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Old 2008-04-19, 10:56   Link #995
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Clockwork Orange used in highschool? Yet, Flowers for Algernon is banned in a couple of places XD. Well the thing is that they are more lenient to violence, sexuality on the other hand; not so much. Weird world like that <.<
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Old 2008-04-19, 11:03   Link #996
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The US is very weird. Anything and everything violent is okay, but a little nudity and it's Satan in carnate.
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Old 2008-04-19, 11:15   Link #997
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The US is very weird. Anything and everything violent is okay, but a little nudity and it's Satan in carnate.
Yea, Jannete Jackson anyone?

This guy gets his head eaten by a shark, lets rate it PG-13!!

Its funny because in Europe its the exact opposite (Except England, but they themselves don't like considering themselves European). Nudity there is ok, you walk down a street and see nude magazines in front of your eyes, go to a beach women swim with their tops off. But for example in Germany, something like Jurassic Park was considered forbidden for young children due to extreme violence.
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Old 2008-04-19, 11:17   Link #998
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Doesn't A Clockwork Orange have a rape scene or two?
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Old 2008-04-19, 11:32   Link #999
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With a snake if I remember correctly..that book was one of the oddest books I have ever read.
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Old 2008-04-19, 12:27   Link #1000
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The Haruhi novels will not be watered down for American audiences, though the text will be edited for readability (literal translations of the novels can read kind of awkwardly to mainstream audiences).
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