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Old 2007-04-24, 19:14   Link #1241
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where or what exactly IS the "Heavens Feel" scenario of fate/stay?
is it a manga or.... what is it, and where can I find it?
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Old 2007-04-24, 19:55   Link #1242
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i know the ending where shirou kills saber is in the HF scenario where saber turns dark saber under the influence of sakura

Shirou does kill Dark Saber in that scenario though at Saber's request, but there was another ending where Shirou fought Saber hand to hand/melee combat style and won. However he goes through a nervous breakdown after winning the fight.
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Old 2007-04-24, 20:40   Link #1243
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Shirou does kill Dark Saber in that scenario though at Saber's request, but there was another ending where Shirou fought Saber hand to hand/melee combat style and won. However he goes through a nervous breakdown after winning the fight.
Rather, it's more like he goes over his limits and his entire body just shuts down.
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Old 2007-04-25, 05:44   Link #1244
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and may i ask where was this was fought? scenario? ive never heard of this fight anywhere before.
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Old 2007-04-25, 21:54   Link #1245
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this is happen in the game only, when u take the Heaven's Feel scenario..

the Fate/SN game has 3 scenario in total... Fate, UBW, and Heaven's Feel.. check wiki if u want to know more..
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Old 2007-04-26, 04:55   Link #1246
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where or what exactly IS the "Heavens Feel" scenario of fate/stay?
is it a manga or.... what is it, and where can I find it?
it's not the anime, and from what some of you were saying in this thread, it seems to be the game?

what's the game called, and is it only in japanese?

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Old 2007-04-26, 15:52   Link #1247
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The game is of the same name as the anime. Everyone's been repeating the name for like forever. And it is in Japanese.
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Old 2007-04-26, 16:17   Link #1248
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yeah, the game is on ps2 and PC, they're both in japanese.
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Old 2007-04-26, 16:37   Link #1249
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well, I guess it's good that I'm gonna take japanese soon

I love taking random college courses in the summer
^_^

thanks for the help
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Old 2007-04-26, 18:44   Link #1250
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well, I guess it's good that I'm gonna take japanese soon

I love taking random college courses in the summer
^_^

thanks for the help
well thing is...u probably gotta know how to read japanese too...but maybe this will work out for u.
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Old 2007-05-02, 02:31   Link #1251
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Searvant deaths

This has been bugging me since I finished watchign the series, and it might contain spoilers.

If the servant dies and returns to the magic realm, does that mean he can no longer be called in a next holy war? Saber was from the 4 war and still had her memories from that war, but she didn't die. And I remeber rin saying that they all return back to the magic realm after the war, so at the end when sabers returns to her normal time line.... was it because she got the holy grail and wished she no longer was a servant?
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Old 2007-05-02, 05:30   Link #1252
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This has been bugging me since I finished watchign the series, and it might contain spoilers.

If the servant dies and returns to the magic realm, does that mean he can no longer be called in a next holy war? Saber was from the 4 war and still had her memories from that war, but she didn't die. And I remeber rin saying that they all return back to the magic realm after the war, so at the end when sabers returns to her normal time line.... was it because she got the holy grail and wished she no longer was a servant?
Only the copies of the heros are summoned, so there's no effect on the original versions themselves.

With Saberas an exception, because she turned into a Counter Guardian(servant) as a human just before they died instead of before they died.

It's not that Saber no longer wished to be a servant. But according to her contract with the grail, she will return back to time once she touched the grail, as her wish is 'in exchange for the usage of the holy grail, I'll become a servant' So when she gets the grail, she will return to her time, die, turn into a holy spirit and go to the Throne of Kings.

Then the next time she gets summoned in any HG war, it'll be her copies instead of herself. (only based on some theory, not 100% accurate)
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Old 2007-05-02, 14:14   Link #1253
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well whatever....i know we all just wanna see more saber X_O
i don't know how to put spoiler tags, so read on at yur own discretion!! but this is prolly not spoiler.


about yur theory, i think there is a minor correction, when a servant dies, he or she goes back to the throne of heroes to wait till the next war, different ppl is chosen for each class in each HG war, so saber was just lucky to be chosen twice in row, others such as lancer and berserker were different historical figures in the last war. so there is no "copy" of the servants to be exact.
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Old 2007-05-02, 15:42   Link #1254
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about yur theory, i think there is a minor correction, when a servant dies, he or she goes back to the throne of heroes to wait till the next war, different ppl is chosen for each class in each HG war, so saber was just lucky to be chosen twice in row, others such as lancer and berserker were different historical figures in the last war. so there is no "copy" of the servants to be exact.
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Old 2007-05-02, 16:23   Link #1255
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where or what exactly IS the "Heavens Feel" scenario of fate/stay?
is it a manga or.... what is it, and where can I find it?

It's from the game, the third scenario. In this scenario...
Spoiler for game spoilers:


However, there's also another meaning of Heaven's Feel, and it's highly relevant with the HG wars itself. It is:
Spoiler:

For more info of true magic please go here:
http://fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Magic#Magic

It's a good site if you're are looking for T-Moon data

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well whatever....i know we all just wanna see more saber X_O
i don't know how to put spoiler tags, so read on at yur own discretion!! but this is prolly not spoiler.


about yur theory, i think there is a minor correction, when a servant dies, he or she goes back to the throne of heroes to wait till the next war, different ppl is chosen for each class in each HG war, so saber was just lucky to be chosen twice in row, others such as lancer and berserker were different historical figures in the last war. so there is no "copy" of the servants to be exact.
Read the first page to find out about how to use spoiler tags. But to save you time it's [@spoiler][/spoiler@]

without the @s

Anyways...the King of Heros and copies part are not my theory, it's from the settings itself. (explained clearly in game)
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Old 2007-05-02, 17:42   Link #1256
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is that right?.....iamdragon
well, iver never read up anything on the setting that copies of the servants were possible, but forget this, let us talk of something new XD
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Old 2007-05-02, 18:27   Link #1257
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Read up on this:

http://fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Creature#HeroicSpirits

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Copies/emanations/projections are sent out from the Throne of Heroes across all times. What is gained and learned from the emanation is not carried on over to the Heroic Spirit to prevent any paradoxes in what ought to be a completed/perfected/finished being. However, the record of what happened is returned to (or rather, has always been in) the Throne, as well as the power that was sent out to solve the problem. This applies to all Heroic Spirits, not just Archer.
Well if you want to talk of something new...let's guess the identity of Berserker in the 4th HG War...

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Old 2007-05-03, 05:16   Link #1258
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now is that fate stay night related? i think that'll be more fate zero related discussion, and would most likely get removed, berserker's identity in fate zero is Iskander ( its not fsn spoiler so i don't have to put up any tags), that's what ive seen. Now sumthing different, perhaps u can tell me about HF scenario, what scene were u refering to ? and why should it be only for 18+ ppl?
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Old 2007-05-03, 06:46   Link #1259
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No no no Iskander is
Spoiler:
And I'm loving him sooo much. Berserker's identity is still unknown. Though we know that he can
Spoiler:


A hero matching that description...really can't think of anyone but my martial arts master, though he's not a hero...
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Old 2007-05-03, 13:18   Link #1260
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Berserker's identity is still unknown. Though we know that he can... A hero matching that description... really can't think of anyone but my martial arts master, though he's not a hero...
But instead of a hangman, a mythical figure appears, an unarmed knight in black armor, who now forces Herbesdorf and his henchmen to play the game. ...
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