(L) Infinite Dendrogram

[sparhawk1610]

Ok it is confirmed, it is licensed by J-Novel

[Natsume01]

And Yep, it has been licensed by J-Novel. Great!!
A great light novel translated by a great team.

[LKK]

Thread has been updated with licensed prefix. All rules regarding licensed material are now in effect.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by The One Above God

What broken characters. Playing earlier is really an advantage.

Early does have an advantage, but not in terms of embryo growth or leveling. And I think the author tries to turn the whole thing into an elemental wheel, so even if you seem really OP, there is another character who likely can wreck you.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Spoiler for response to spoiler:

Really a pet playing the game?

Spoiler for Chara:

Her avatar's a pet, but yeah. I call her lolpet because I think she's American in real life, so she says lines like "gg", "k", "lol", "thx", which seemed really out of place at the time for me.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

And Yep, it has been licensed by J-Novel. Great!!
A great light novel translated by a great team.

Wow, this is great. I wonder why they decided to go with Dendro instead of the more popular one like Seirei Gensouki. Well I'm not complaining either way.

This means the fan translation will stop right? Would be cool if fan translator can at least continue the later side stories, which probably won't be incorporated into publication for a while. I think Episode Superior II, Superior Out Law, and Superior III (personal favorite arc of the entire thing) all don't involve that many spoilers.

Also, chapter 5 of the manga is delayed to the 12th, wonder if there will be an announcement (probably not).

[Village Idiot]

From what I gather from Quarkboy's comments on forums, he really likes this series.

Also its a series thats likely to get an anime adaption in the near future.

[The One Above God]

^I'd give it 3-5 more volumes. Same with Tsujo Kogeki.

[Natsume01]

Spoiler for Question:

Can someone spoil me about what's this? "■■■"
It's from when Nemesis evolved to her second form. I've seen this a lot of times since then.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Spoiler for Question:

Can someone spoil me about what's this? "■■■"
It's from when Nemesis evolved to her second form. I've seen this a lot of times since then.

Still not explained as of the latest chapters, but Apostles have that ability as well. This is probably connected to the main story line, and the hints for that came from Chapter 5 of the web, so maybe like volume 7 or 8 of the bunko? Or 9-10 if the side stories get included?

[Natsume01]

^ Yeah I know about the Apostle. It was said by

Spoiler for Kaguya:

Tsukiyo's Embryo. When Tsukiyo kidnapped Ray and Nemesis: Kaguya told Nemesis that she should cancel it until the last evolution (Form VII) if it comes again.

I suppose it's better to read the Side Stories in-between the Chapters. I skipped the Valentine Extra though.

Spoiler for Figaro:

Figaro was quite an interesting character. I wonder why he didn't help get rid of the Goz-whatever bandits. Maybe because he couldn't fight while protecting the children because of it's inability to fight in group.

Am I the only one who felt sad for the UBM Wolf?

What do you think about Nemesis' skills? They are good but really hard to use with the conditions and cooldown time.

I may wait until J-Novel translate the three volumes before restarting it.
Is there any date for v04? And illustrations for v03?

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

^ Yeah I know about the Apostle. It was said by

Spoiler for Embryo:

Kaguya

Speaking of her, I think she has the coolest name (Type Maiden with Invasion World).

Originally Posted by Natsume01

I suppose it's better to read the Side Stories in-between the Chapters. I skipped the Valentine Extra though.

The Valentine chapter is pretty quick and actually does tie into the latest arc, otherwise it's a bit weird reading Chapter 6.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Spoiler for Figaro:

Figaro was quite an interesting character. I wonder why he didn't help get rid of the Goz-whatever bandits. Maybe because he couldn't fight while protecting the children because of it's inability to fight in group.

Spoiler for Volume 2:

I do not think anyone actually knows what the bandit and their necromancy goal was with the children right? I mean the Superiors aren't world police, so they probably is busy doing their own thing.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Am I the only one who felt sad for the UBM Wolf?

Well they are sentient at this point ...

Originally Posted by Natsume01

What do you think about Nemesis' skills? They are good but really hard to use with the conditions and cooldown time.

They are all pretty good except for the Third Form. Luke's is way cooler though.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Is there any date for v04? And illustrations for v03?

No date yet, and most illustrations are on official twitter around April Fool, but the scans are out too if you want all of them.

[Natsume01]

^

Spoiler for Bandit Group:

Well, they all knew what happened to the children right?
I mean, they were kidnapped and they sent their fingers or whatever. Then why did he thank Ray for it?
Yeah they aren't world police but still, they are so strong they could finish it super quickly.
Then again, what you said is true too, especially with Franklin. Just look at how much damage she could have done if not for Ray and Kuma-niisan.

I first thought that << Revenge is Mine >> could be used on anyone even if they weren't the one who hit him. But then I guess it'd have been too overpowered since he'd just too accumulate damage by himself and then use it on a UBM or Boss Monster.
Luke's skill are too OP,

Spoiler for Skills:

I mean what the hell is wrong with << Drain Learning >>? and << Union Jack >>

For the valentine chapter: yeah I'll read it before I read chapter 06 since I've seen some spoiler for Figaro.

Do you remember this scene: made me laugh.

　――まさか、私が真犯人だとバレているの!?

　ありえない。
　昼の会話だけで、私が犯人と気づくだなんて… 。
　質問への受け答えも、話題の振り方も完璧だったはずなのに！
　あのクソザコは… 天才か何かだとでも言うの!?

It's from the last chapter of Kuma-niisan & Luke's Gaiden. (or the chapter before)

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

^

Spoiler for Bandit Group:

Well, they all knew what happened to the children right?
I mean, they were kidnapped and they sent their fingers or whatever. Then why did he thank Ray for it?
Yeah they aren't world police but still, they are so strong they could finish it super quickly.
Then again, what you said is true too, especially with Franklin. Just look at how much damage she could have done if not for Ray and Kuma-niisan.

Spoiler for player:

The response also hugely depends on whether you treat that as a quest or saving lives. This is the equivalent of going to a level 19 area to kill a cannibal quest boss monster when as a level 100 player; even if the quest description has vivid descriptions of the brutality of the acts, the interest is just not there for most non-Maiden Masters.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Do you remember this scene: made me laugh.
It's from the last chapter of Kuma-niisan & Luke's Gaiden. (or the chapter before)

That's why people call her バカーベラ instead of ガーベラ!

And speaking of Figaro from before, congratulations for the marriage proposal being accepted lol. I REALLY wasn't expecting that.
Also, we see Reirei's character design AND real life in the manga.

[Natsume01]

^ Yeah it suits her pretty well. Ahaha!

In which chapter does she appear? I hope someone is going to translate the manga.

Spoiler for Question about 'Incarnation':

Is there any relation between the 'Incarnations' that destroyed the Ancient Civilization and the Management AI?
Or rather I'm pretty sure it's them. It was said that there was Thirteen 'Incarnation' and IIRC there is 13 Management AI.
Why did they destroy everything 2000 years ago?

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

^ Yeah it suits her pretty well. Ahaha!

In which chapter does she appear? I hope someone is going to translate the manga.

Spoiler for Question about 'Incarnation':

Is there any relation between the 'Incarnations' that destroyed the Ancient Civilization and the Management AI?
Or rather I'm pretty sure it's them. It was said that there was Thirteen 'Incarnation' and IIRC there is 13 Management AI.
Why did they destroy everything 2000 years ago?

Chapter 4 for her in game avatar, and chapter 5 for her real/live form.

Spoiler for Web Chapter 5:

Yeah, the Avatars are the ones that wrecked the pre-previous civilization. The story still hasn't explained why though. Chapter 5 explicitly tells you Chesha is the Avatar of Beast. All 13 AIs are all infinity forms and part of the Infinite Embryo series. Chesha is Type Infinite Legion and Tweedledum and Tweedledee (AI #11) are Type Infinite Calculator.

The AIs' goals are to figure out ways to force the Embryos to evolve, some creates SUBM, others set the Masters up so they fight among each other etc. I guess the pre-previous civilization was too technologically advance? They have to take them out so the Masters can start playing the game or something. There is barely anything for the past except that we know the AIs didn't exactly wipe them out completely. The Great Philosopher is the same person who was alive from that era that keeps coming back (with intact memories despite being killed) to create crazy technologies that is supposed to be able to kill the Avatars eventually.

Also, web chapter 6 is done, and we're going into another side story for Hugo and AR・I・CA. I wonder how long this story's gonna be ...

[Natsume01]

Thanks, will check it out later.

Spoiler for Avatars:

Oh yeah, I've read it. I kind of knew it when it was said that Tom Cat's power was to create 7 doubles of himself which are just as strong as him, and that he is not a player.
Oh, you're talking about Fragman, right? The genius inventor/scientist. According to the name he wrote in the last ruins discovered (in the Kingdom), it seems he is also the Great Sage from the Kingdom, the one who supposedly died in the war. I said supposedly because I really doubt someone like him will die here like that.

Spoiler for Zex:

In the extra where Kuma-niisan become the [Destruction King,
what did Zex wanted from him?
And Chesire destroyed the robot leader from the Ruins because he had a job list and it's said that Zex has one too so why did he not take it back?
Even considering he is a <Master>, I doubt it's something they should let a player have.

According to the other, it's only the first part of Chapter 06 that's over. (Didn't read past Chapter 05 so I'm not sure, I just glanced at last lines of the last chapters.)
For the new gaiden with Yuugo, I think it should only lasts 4/5 chapters like the others gaiden, or so I hope. I don't want it to last as much as the one about Figaro and some others.

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Spoiler for Zex:

In the extra where Kuma-niisan become the [Destruction King,
what did Zex wanted from him?
And Chesire destroyed the robot leader from the Ruins because he had a job list and it's said that Zex has one too so why did he not take it back?
Even considering he is a <Master>, I doubt it's something they should let a player have.

Spoiler for Side/Chapter 5:

I don't think Zechs have the complete list, he just had the job requirements for Destruction King, which was consider lost information at the time. Zircon Leader just have the archive of all the jobs, I wouldn't be surprise if It had the information on the job requirements are as well. I do not think anyone at the current age (besides Fragman) knows that Cat God is not a real job title.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

According to the other, it's only the first part of Chapter 06 that's over. (Didn't read past Chapter 05 so I'm not sure, I just glanced at last lines of the last chapters.)
For the new gaiden with Yuugo, I think it should only lasts 4/5 chapters like the others gaiden, or so I hope. I don't want it to last as much as the one about Figaro and some others.

Oh yeah, you're right about it being only the first half. I wonder why he split it, don't think he has done that before with any other chapters. Since the side story is between Chapter 5 and 6, I feel like he wants to introduce some stuff that links to the second half. I rather like AR・I・CA (well, more like I like her Super Embryo Cassandra), so I think I will enjoy this. At the same time though, I really want him to continue to chapter because Drive will probably invade soon (Godzilla vs. Super Robot!!!).

[Natsume01]

So I read some chapters.
This one made me really laugh. Really, the title of that one chapter really was fitting. Holy Knight(Dark Knight): the chapter were he met AAA.

Spoiler for Spoiler ncode ch240:

このまま放置すれば、惨劇になるかもしれない。
　これは止める必要があると思い、俺も三人に続いて車内から降りることにする。


　状態異常警戒してネメシスは黒旗斧槍、両手の【瘴焔手甲】の噴射口は開けて、MPやSP出せるように【紫 怨走甲】もスキル起動、【黒纏套】のフードは被って、【ストームフェイス】も装備して… これでよし。
　俺は竜車を降りて、戦闘という名の惨劇に入る寸前だった面々に声をかける。

「先輩もアズライトも落ち着いてくれ。そいつらどう見ても戦意が失せて」

　俺が制止の言葉を言い掛けると、

「ぎゃあああああああああ!?」
「バケモノの親玉だあああああ!!?」
「おがあちゃあああああん!!」

　先ほど以上の阿鼻叫喚の悲鳴をあげたり、山賊達は気絶したり、地に伏して頭を擦りつけ始めた 。
　逃げようとしているのに、腰が抜けて立てない奴までいる。

「… Why？」

　まるで三人の怪人… もとい女性よりも恐ろしいものを見たかのような山賊の反応に、俺は首を傾げるしかなかった。

And this one too. He really loves the gacha. If not for Nemesis, he'll use all his money on it. Well she couldn't stop from betting that much money on the fight Figaro vs Jinu(how is it written?) and Cashmere vs Tom Cat. At least he's winning (for now).

Spoiler for Spoiler ncode chapter 243:

「御主、もうギャンブルするな。怖い」

　心の底から吐き出すような声でそう言ったのだった。
　何と返したものか悩んで、俺の口から出てきた言葉は、

「… … ガチャはギャンブルに入りますか？」

　回答は毎度お馴染みのドロップキックだった。

Spoiler for Figaro's family:

Really, how can they hide it from him that it's not a little brother but a little sister? Well, now they'll surprise so much, he'll have a heart attack. The only way is to do it in game and wait until he's okay to log out. But our Catherine Kongo won't since (s)he won't show the avatar (s)he made.
And this: Otoko no karada to onna-rashisa = muteki (lol). You're the only one who's thinking this, dear Catherine. Look how the children ran away when you appeared.
I love when she says 'Watashi ganbatta'. Don't why. Sounds cute.

Oh and Jinu, is she really 10 years old? So mature~ Even Chesa is wondering if she's not older. Smarter than Luke when it's about love.

I don't really ARICA.

Spoiler for ARICA:

She's kind of a pain and such a sl**. Is she in heat all the time?
She even tried to make moves on Yugo. Fortunately for Yugo, (s)he's a minor.
I completely agree with Kyuuko(Cocytus). 「しねばいいのに」

I wonder if you could post some detailed summary about [Hades]? There's absolutely nothing about him in the novel except that he's one of the three who understood Chesa's notion of liberty. (Zechs and Ray being the other two.)
Do you have any idea on IF's purpose? Really can't make a guess.

Completely agree with you. It's obvious the war is going to start again soon, with lolpet (like you call her) went back and the letter at the end of Part I. Godzilla vs Super Robot!! Now that's a fight I want to see.
My personal favorite in the extra chapter is Superior III. It's good. Though I must say I missed Ray. That's also why I didn't really like Chapter 6 Part I. Too much change of POV and little story
Except for

Spoiler for Figaro&Hannya:

Figaro's proposal. I mean, really while everyone was thinking of way to stop Hannya from exploding when she'll learn that Figaro wasn't in love with her, he was thinking of way to propose.
But it's going to be hard for him with his disease. That scene with his brother(sister) was funny.

「ちょ！？　兄さん！？　か、回復魔法！　サフィーネ……リアルにはいないよ!!　誰か！　主治医のウィン ストン先生呼んできて！？」

[Kunagisa]

Yes! The humor's great in the series. My favorite one's probably the bathing scene. I literally lol'ed for that one. By Jinu do you mean Shunyu? And speaking of 10 year olds, I can't believe Emily (Murder Princess/殺人姫) is also one ... though that makes the ending to the latest chapter that much more hilarious too. Poor Zhang (Chan)!

The theory that I support the most for IF's motive

Spoiler for IF:

is that they want to create a Save/Safepoint for criminals, or hijack one of the existing ones, so even if the players are blacklisted everywhere else, the criminals do not have to go to Prison.

Regarding 冥王 (King of Tartarus), besides what I typed the last page, considering King and Princess suffixes are job titles that focus on status boost, he probably has super high MP?

I don't see Superior III being surpassed by any other chapter any time soon. SUBM are just way too cool. I treat this story as an ensemble cast like DRRR and Kyoukaisen Horizon. I do not really mind if Ray's not the focus even for extended period of time. The characters are all pretty interesting.

[Natsume01]

^ Oh yeah, that bathing scene was so funny.
This is not read as Shunyu, right? ジンウ. It's how it's written in the color illustration of v03.
Yeah I was surprised that she was the Murder Princess.

That's an interesting theory but why would Tian help them for that when they can't use it?

Have you read any other SS that came together with the volume? If so, maybe you can post a summary whenever you can.

I agree with that: SUBM are pretty cool. But I really don't like when the POV changes too much. As long as it's an interesting character I don't mind if it's not for too long, like Superior III.
For example in Altina The Sword Princess, while Bastian is interesting, an entire volume with him and not with Regin/Altina/Clarisse was too much for me.

Do you have any idea of the author schedule (for updates)?

EDIT: New raw chapter~

Spoiler for n269:

I gotta say I love this new Embryo. She's so funny. What a costly and disgusting tea.
I wonder who is the Master they were talking about. Maybe it's finally time for [冥王](King of Tartarus) to appear in the main story (or technically in the gaiden)? He's got a Super Embryo and is not affiliated to any country. Why do I feel that the last line in the chapter was about the Embryo of our dear Kuma-niisan?

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by Natsume01

This is not read as Shunyu, right? ジンウ. It's how it's written in the color illustration of v03.

Spoiler for text:

○そういえば、[迅羽]の読みって[じんう]でいいんでしたっけ？
それとも、中国語ですか？ どこかに書いてあってかもしれませんけど、見つかりません。

(=ↀωↀ=)＜レイ達には「ジンウ」と聞こえてます

(=ↀωↀ=)＜迅羽本人は「シュンユー」と名づけたつもりで、人から名前を呼ばれるときもそう聞こえてい ます

(=ↀωↀ=)＜漢字など国によって読み方が違う場合にはこういうこともあります

Oh, I guess both are correct. I do not remember reading any ruby text in the web version, so I never knew how he actually imagine it to sound like.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

That's an interesting theory but why would Tian help them for that when they can't use it?

Well, to control that point, they would have to take over the surrounding area. Wanted Tians can also make use of that.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Have you read any other SS that came together with the volume? If so, maybe you can post a summary whenever you can.

The one for volume 3 is kinda lame. It's just a Q and A. The first one's actually regarding the pronunciation of Shunyu's name (I clearly haven't read this after I bought it); second one's about Bearbro's suit came from Tenchi; third is the names of all the system AIs, which are all uploaded to the wiki. And that's kinda it (yes super lame). I think he saved all the "good" side stories for the physical copies, which I'm not ordering for this series.

Originally Posted by Natsume01

Do you have any idea of the author schedule (for updates)?

EDIT: New raw chapter~

Spoiler for n269:

I gotta say I love this new Embryo. She's so funny. What a costly and disgusting tea.
I wonder who is the Master they were talking about. Maybe it's finally time for [冥王](King of Tartarus) to appear in the main story (or technically in the gaiden)? He's got a Super Embryo and is not affiliated to any country. Why do I feel that the last line in the chapter was about the Embryo of our dear Kuma-niisan?

No idea for both. Last line's definitely Bearbro and referring to the "boss" of Chapter 5. The lost techs are pretty crazy too. Wonder how strong 機皇 was when he died. Has to be rivaling Dragonic Emperor right?