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Old 2013-09-20, 18:52   Link #8901
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Stop running away, Ayumi... she's not a suspicious person! She just wants to investigate you...

Keima's going at his own pace as usual. It's rather convenient that children are easily swayed by fantasy settings, or at least I guess he's approaching the matter like he did with Urara.
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Old 2013-09-20, 19:07   Link #8902
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-breeding between demons and humans is taboo/looked down on, addressed by the author in a Q & A before i believe, should be same/implied for goddesses
That means... a blow for Haqua ending.

But still, the goddess is a lie! The hosts are still humans, so it wouldn't be much of the problem unless Wakaki choose to turn a blind eye if Keima ends up with one of the goddesses hosts.
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Old 2013-09-20, 19:07   Link #8903
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Basically if Keima chooses Chihiro he has the chosen the real, which in honestly is what I think this series in heading into. Choosing Chihiro not because of her as a person but because what she stands for in this series.
I can also argue that it's because Chihiro is a "real" average girl that she won't end up with Keima. Chihiro (or Keima to her) is the first love. A person does not always end together with their first love interest. If anything, that is even more idealistic.
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Old 2013-09-20, 20:37   Link #8904
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Oh noes!!! Ayumi is one of the victims!

And I like the part where Keima chose to play the same role as he did with Urara. xD
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Old 2013-09-20, 21:26   Link #8905
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I can also argue that it's because Chihiro is a "real" average girl that she won't end up with Keima. Chihiro (or Keima to her) is the first love. A person does not always end together with their first love interest. If anything, that is even more idealistic.
You can't prove that. There is nothing in the series that indicates that Keima was her first love.
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Old 2013-09-20, 21:27   Link #8906
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that was a surprise to me what Keima did.
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Old 2013-09-20, 21:39   Link #8907
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You can't prove that. There is nothing in the series that indicates that Keima was her first love.
You mean aside from Flag 189 being titled The Memory of My First Love, which was also what Chihiro was singing during her band's performance?
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Old 2013-09-20, 22:12   Link #8908
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Oh noes!!! Ayumi is one of the victims!

And I like the part where Keima chose to play the same role as he did with Urara. xD
The black collar might be the cause she had a gap in her heart in the first place. Not a new discovery there.
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Old 2013-09-21, 00:29   Link #8909
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Lol The stunt Keima pulled as an ending. I'm a future boy from the distant future!
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Old 2013-09-21, 10:49   Link #8910
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Lol The stunt Keima pulled as an ending. I'm a future boy from the distant future!
Ironically, he really came from the future and the current he cannot be together with Tenri(or anyone) since he will go back to his time when every thing is over.


p.s. by the way, Tenri told Keima before he came to the past that he has to save a girl. Is that girl Kaori? or Urara?
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Old 2013-09-21, 10:57   Link #8911
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Alien, Esper, and now Time traveller....
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Old 2013-09-21, 10:59   Link #8912
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p.s. by the way, Tenri told Keima before he came to the past that he has to save a girl. Is that girl Kaori? or Urara?
Urara shouldn't count because she saved herself.
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Old 2013-09-21, 11:07   Link #8913
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Alien, Esper, and now Time traveller....
add the normal keima with it and you have the sos brigade
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Old 2013-09-21, 13:13   Link #8914
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add the normal keima with it and you have the sos brigade
Crossdress him and you have Seitenkan

I never said anything. Carry on.
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Old 2013-09-21, 16:15   Link #8915
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add the normal keima with it and you have the sos brigade
There is no normal Keima.
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Old 2013-09-25, 13:23   Link #8916
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add the normal keima with it and you have the sos brigade
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There is no normal Keima.
So add the kami Keima and the normal Chihiro, we'll still get the sos brigade
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Old 2013-09-25, 13:38   Link #8917
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The only ones left is Chihiro and Tenri. Tenri has shown very good signs lately but I am giving the winner spot to Chihiro because she stands for the "reality" of this series. In the end this story is about Keima's ideal vs reality. The game world or the real. Chihiro is the real since she is not special, she is not involved in this whole mess. Keima even says that out load when Chihiro asks if there is something in her. This is Wakaki's way of telling us that Chihiro is a normal average person through and through.

Basically if Keima chooses Chihiro he has the chosen the real, which in honestly is what I think this series in heading into. Choosing Chihiro not because of her as a person but because what she stands for in this series.
This is definitely the argument Chihiro fans tried to use the most. Well, I, not being a fan of her, can also see that quite clearly. But just one thing, don't you think it would be kind of predictable if Wakaki pull off sth that is too obvious like that!? I mean, the setting "he reject the real so he need to accept it in the end of the series to show that his character has developed" is not neccessarily what Wakiki aims for.

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-breeding between demons and humans is taboo/looked down on, addressed by the author in a Q & A before i believe, should be same/implied for goddesses
So can I assume from the above that breeding between demons/goddesses and human is possible? It's not welcomed, might be looked down upon, but still possible?
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:11   Link #8918
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I'm a Chihiro fan, let's put that up front. But I agree with kyou13--Keima deals with the real, and as the events of the goddess arc show, it can even affect him, but since when does he show any sign of actually giving in? Keima is Keima--his core ideals have never changed, although he has a new perspective on some of them.
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Old 2013-09-27, 20:29   Link #8919
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So can I assume from the above that breeding between demons/goddesses and human is possible? It's not welcomed, might be looked down upon, but still possible?

Hmm the actual question asked was whether or not a devil can be in a relationship with a human? They never went into details about offspring, but the reply only mentioned it being looked down on.


So you basically have to derive your answer form that, since he never made it a complete negative response, Since if he said it was physiologically impossible, that would pretty much end it. Ironically in the manga world/mythological world the default position in this should be yes.

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Old 2013-09-28, 07:42   Link #8920
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I'm a Chihiro fan, let's put that up front. But I agree with kyou13--Keima deals with the real, and as the events of the goddess arc show, it can even affect him, but since when does he show any sign of actually giving in? Keima is Keima--his core ideals have never changed, although he has a new perspective on some of them.
Well he's gonna give in to the real and end up with Chihiro, but we just don't know. What I want to point out is that we can't reach a conclusion about the last girl with these "real vs deal" things.
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Hmm the actual question asked was whether or not a devil can be in a relationship with a human? They never went into details about offspring, but the reply only mentioned it being looked down on.


So you basically have to derive your answer form that, since he never made it a complete negative response, Since if he said it was physiologically impossible, that would pretty much end it. Ironically in the manga world/mythological world the default position in this should be yes.
Actually I wanted to say "relationship" but I saw "breeding" in your post and used it without thinking. Offsprings are too far off to even be considered, after all.
It couldn't be definite answer, since Wakaki isn't supposed to crush the hope of demons and goddesses' fans. So yeah, I'll take it as a yes. At least it will leave Haqua and Diana with a chance or two
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