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Old 2006-01-05, 14:23   Link #1
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It would have been perfect.. IF...

Often I happen to come across to some anime that are near the perfection but there's one spot where they actually miss. So I'm inviting you all to make a list of your personal judgements.

Some examples? Well,

Suzuka would have been perfect imho, IF it wasn't for those poor animations. What a shame that such a great product has to be delivered with such a low budget and art production. Actually it alternates some acceptable quality moments to total fall down moments. Unfortunately there's not an order on these. So you could have a key scene with bad animations, or a slice life scene being well made.

Then, back of some years , Spiral ~ Suiri no Kizuna, a sort of X-Files made onto anime, one of the most fascinating thrilling story I've seen. It'd have been perfect IF

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Uta~Kata, to me one of the most blatant examples of wasted potential on recent times. So beautifully done both on package and realization, it would have been perfect IF

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These were the first coming to my mind, I'm sure there is plenty of them.

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a) Use the spoiler tags [spoiler] your comment [/spoiler]

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Use them if you are going to reveal something about the story or anything you guess that a person who hasn't seen that show yet shouldn't be aware of.

b) You could list many anime as you want, but watch out. You have just 1 (one) big IF for every title you actually mention.
This to avoid a flood, I think it's pointless since saying "anime abcdefgh would have been perfect if, if and if , because if such a thing happens we're no longer near the so called "perfection", don't you think ?
And if you point to the plot, which is indeed big, usually, try to focus on a single element. If they are more.. well, read point "b" again
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Old 2006-01-05, 15:45   Link #2
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Ok, let me talk about Shuffle here.
While not perfect, it was still a great series, but it would've been better without the following flaws:

- they totally messed up the ending (ep.21,22,23... have yet to see 24, but I fear it won't be any better). It really would've deserved much better
- Nerine having red eyes with her blue hairs - *awful* combination This threw me off I dunno how many times. They should've given her blue eyes instead!
- ugly black overknee socks They should've used the standard white ones, or at least nicely coloured ones, but not ugly black!

I won't speak about the characters here, look in the Shuffle forum for that.
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Old 2006-01-05, 19:42   Link #3
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NaruTaru suffered budget problems but that's no excuse for them jumping all over the timeline, introducing interresting characters and then ditching them without resolution and leaving you with nothing but assumptions. If they'd just focused on a story arc and saw it all the way through it (not counting the final arc) it would've been way better.
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Old 2006-01-05, 23:07   Link #4
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I think Urusei Yatsura could have been perfect if...

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And I hear you on Spiral, I was staring at the screen in disbelief after the last episode...
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Old 2006-01-05, 23:15   Link #5
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Cowboy Bebop This anime had everything great animation , great story , great characters , dreamy main character, great music and had the best dubbing ever.

But it would of been perfect if ..
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Old 2006-01-06, 00:26   Link #6
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Cowboy Bebop This anime had everything great animation , great story , great characters , dreamy main character, great music and had the best dubbing ever.

But it would of been perfect if ..
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Old 2006-01-06, 00:52   Link #7
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well yes but still ..

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Old 2006-01-06, 01:51   Link #8
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I personally found that Wind ~A Breath of Heart~ would have served a lot better as a 13 episode series. Same with Mizuiro 2003 or the 4 episode OAV Natsuiro no Sunadeki. All of these held enough potential to be a very decent bishoujo game to anime conversion, if only bottlenecked by its length.
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Old 2006-01-06, 01:52   Link #9
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Then, back of some years , Spiral ~ Suiri no Kizuna, a sort of X-Files made onto anime, one of the most fascinating thrilling story I've seen. It'd have been perfect IF

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As for Spiral, once I would have agreed with you. Now I am glad it ended the way it did.
Spoiler for Ending of Spiral:


I think that the worst failure of an ending was Full Metal Alchemist
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Old 2006-01-06, 03:16   Link #10
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Ok, let me talk about Shuffle here.
While not perfect, it was still a great series, but it would've been better without the following flaws:
Imho, Shuffle would be one of those show needing a ton of if to arrive near the perfection. So I wouldn't include it on this list. Because to me it does have a lot of major flaws.
But as said this is imho, so your call is well accepted indeed
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I personally found that Wind ~A Breath of Heart~ would have served a lot better as a 13 episode series. Same with Mizuiro 2003 or the 4 episode OAV Natsuiro no Sunadeki. All of these held enough potential to be a very decent bishoujo game to anime conversion, if only bottlenecked by its length.
Uhm, but Wind ~A Breath of Heart~ actually is a 13 episode series, and with 3 OVA, 2 of them being fansubbed.
I agree on both Mizuiro and Natsuiro no Sunadokei (which is 2 episodes, btw). The second one most, such a fascinating story deserved a longer development. We see shows unlimitedly worse, that are developed over our patience.

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As for Spiral, once I would have agreed with you. Now I am glad it ended the way it did.
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Oh yes, thank you for having recalled that to me.
I remember in fact I came across that thread while surfing the manga section before the disaster. I just had a brief look at it, I remember there was this so very long post and I promised myself to read it properly the next time. But who could know that post was going to disappear from Earth's face?

For what I can recall
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Old 2006-01-06, 03:28   Link #11
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I think that the worst failure of an ending was Full Metal Alchemist
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Old 2006-01-06, 04:50   Link #12
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KareKano would have been damn near perfect if they had made a second season to finish it off properly.. the problem is, IIRC the manga finished only last year, so I think it's actually better off how it is now instead of a thought-up ending that's different from the manga.
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Old 2006-01-06, 05:51   Link #13
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If DBZ ended after Frieza Saga *always love ending a series w/ a cliffhanger not knowing what really happened* or ending after Cell Games would of been acceptable too

If DBGT was NEVER conceived

If G Gundam didn't have a Sailor Moon Gundam...*Neo Sweden,* the uber cheesy ending could of been done better as well

If Suzuka didn't have such crappy animations *it's a 26 episode series...there's no need to be lazy*, anyone remember the uber crap running to the stair scene w/ Akitski? he was running, but it barely looked like he was moving...and I think I mispelled his name, lol. I think the ending is gonna be rushed...

If Ichigo 100% series wasn't super rushed and stayed more w/ the manga

If Naruto wouldn't have 1 billion filler episodes

If Chad was made stronger...*I mean come on, how often do you see a mexican in a anime series that almost has a main character role!?*

If Trinity Blood and Speed Grapher weren't licensed so friggin fast... T_T

If GSD didn't have so many recap episodes...especially at ep 47 =\

If Trigun didn't have such a crap ending...

If Love Hina made episodes of the last few manga books
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Old 2006-01-06, 07:37   Link #14
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KareKano would have been damn near perfect if they had made a second season to finish it off properly.. the problem is, IIRC the manga finished only last year, so I think it's actually better off how it is now instead of a thought-up ending that's different from the manga.
Actually, the primary reason Kare Kano went to shat is the director leaving halfway through. Hence, we get two crappy review eps back to back, followed by about 8-10 episodes that are nowhere near the quality of the first lot. That really sucked. Also, there apparently isn't going to be a second season (unless something totally radical happens), which sucks even more. I'd call it a masterpiece if it wasn't for these facts.

And agreed on the points already raised about Suzuka, FMA and Uta~Kata.

Side note - leave Nerine's eyes alone, red with blue hair is a perfect combo
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Old 2006-01-06, 08:51   Link #15
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I think that the worst failure of an ending was Full Metal Alchemist
And I thought that title belonged to GSD...
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Old 2006-01-06, 12:13   Link #16
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And I thought that title belonged to GSD...
I think GSD itself is a failure of an entire series. FMA had its strong moments that can hook, while for me I'm still struggling to finish GSD.

I think Gundam Seed would have been perfect IF Gundam Seed Destiny didn't exist. The first Gundam Seed story concluded good enough IMO, and I would have wanted it to be left that way.
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Old 2006-01-06, 12:57   Link #17
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@ suguru

It's the same thing as with Inuyasha, OMG, and other hugely popular series; they are simply too popular for the producers to "waste" by giving an official ending. You never know when Urusei Yatsura might become pop again, so better give quantity instead of quality, no?

Personally, I think out of those 200+ episodes just 10 is enough for you to see everything there is to see. Incidentally, this, too, is the same with majority of hugely popular series, no matter the genre. Popularity = death of creativity. Or then the original designers are just plain greedy and weak.
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Old 2006-01-06, 13:15   Link #18
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If DBZ ended after Frieza Saga *always love ending a series w/ a cliffhanger not knowing what really happened* or ending after Cell Games would of been acceptable too.
Personally, I preferred if the series ended after the Cell Games, since
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Old 2006-01-06, 13:22   Link #19
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these are 2 shows that get screwed in the final episode
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Old 2006-01-06, 16:38   Link #20
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I'm going to add now a title which imho was *really* going to be perfect, this time. In facts, I've rated it 9.8/10, which is near Ten, but it's not Ten.

Fruits Basket, ok imho this one really rocks, it had them all, an amazing set of characters which perfectly interacted between them, a well thought story, with a lot of lessons about life, a refreshing pace and a sense of maturity spreaded all around the series. Plus, the hilarity, the wonderful voice acting, the fitting animations and the sweet musics.
It would really have been perfect, if..

Why... guess why..

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