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Perfect 10 | 2 | 20.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 4 | 40.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 0 | 0% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 10.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 20.00% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 10.00% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2018-08-08, 03:17 | Link #1 | ||||
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Steins;Gate 0 - Episode 17 Discussion / Poll
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2018-08-08, 13:51 | Link #2 |
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The last part of the episode was completely stupid and illogical. First of all, even if the soldiers got to the roof in a stealth move, how the heck did neither anybody say anything nor Suzuha notice anything while she was looking at the D-mail outside until Mayuri scremed? And secondly, the soldiers are even dumber with a worse aim than stormtroopers...
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2018-08-08, 16:17 | Link #3 |
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It was definitely better presented in the VN... Which had the advantage of being mostly tell, don't show. The idea they were supposed to convey was that Suzuha, having gone through hell already, is on a whole other level than "mere" trained troops.
Anyway, I really hope people don't give Okarin too much crap. It makes sense for his friends to have more fight in them than he does. None of these people went through what he did. Other than Suzuha, anyway, but it's not like she's entirely unscathed. And at least she didn't personally stab the person most important to her to death. |
2018-08-08, 16:45 | Link #4 |
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Yeah, the soldiers appearing out of nowhere was pretty stupid.
Other than that, good episode, showing each character's resolve. Mayuri isn't dead, right? Future Daru said Suzuha and Mayuri's actions changed the worldline (how does that whole thing even work?), but surely, it can't have changed that much. And damn, Mayuri's speech was really touching.
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2018-08-08, 16:57 | Link #5 | |
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I'm kind of with Mayuri in spirit. I miss Hououin Kyouma. Okabe in this season has sucked to watch. Though increasingly obvious this story isn't about him. He's been broken from Day 1 and hasn't recovered even now. There was some semblance of patience and consideration for what he's been through to this point. But we're 17 episodes in here. The main character needs to get going before they run out of episodes. I thought last episode might have been enough to get him on the right track...but that was too optimistic. I think Mayuri being killed in this world line is about the only thing that can shake up Okabe enough to do something.
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2018-08-08, 19:10 | Link #7 | |
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You wouldn't use "mere trained troops" to secure something as valuable as a time machine. In fact, you'd use at least use special forces, and not people with the aim of a storm trooper. I'm also starting to wonder what Okabe's contribution to the actual time machine and the Phone Microwave actually was. The latter is apparently something they randomly screwed together together, while I don't remember ever hearing about Okabe when it comes to the actual time machine. Also congrats to future Daru, the D-Mail might have gotten SERN on the case now too.
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2018-08-08, 19:33 | Link #8 |
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The future D-Mails have to be SERN proof, otherwise Okabe could never send himself one to save Kurisu.
That said, those soldiers appearing really was asinine. Everything about their appearance as stupid. Also let out an audible "ugh" when Kagari showed up. Really want her to just go away. |
2018-08-08, 20:09 | Link #9 | |
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As for Okarin's contribution to the time machine? He figured out that the device was a time machine in the first place. He also figured out the CRTV. Finally, if SERN really was "on the case" we'd be back in the alpha world line right now. And we're not. |
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2018-08-08, 20:43 | Link #11 |
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Yeah, I think we are all in agreement that the ending was pretty stupid. Seriously, did those soldiers kust teleport onto the rooftop?
Ending aside, that was a good episode. I thought the episode would go down a brighter route to bring back Hououin Kyouma, but apparently watching Mayuri die again is the only trigger left that can spurn Okabe to action.
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2018-08-09, 05:09 | Link #15 |
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All I'm thinking is how much future Daru had to go to deduce that events from 25 years ago were what led to a worldline change even if a slight one. I mean he doesn't have Reading Steiner so he would have needed some other way to compare the changes...
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2018-08-09, 06:17 | Link #16 |
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Like I said, it doesn't really feel so unbelievable in the VN, since it's mostly conveyed through text. So a bunch of military-looking men entering from stage left isn't as egregious in that format. They really should have thought about how to portray this better.
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2018-08-09, 17:18 | Link #19 | |
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What was really hard to take in was the almost complete lack of movement during the gunfight. I can be made to believe that Suzuha, due to experience, would make the soldiers panic and take advantage of that to wreck havock but nothing like that was shown, just some very bland scenes of people shooting.
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