Minami-ke

[stevency]

Spoiler:

Hosaka is mentally broken down officially. His imagination is overboard enough to sent him off to madhouse.

Sensei and Ninomiya-kun ending..... What can I say. Happy ended splatter drama?

Drunken Hiyami senpai is dangerous, good luck, Kana.

[The Chaos]

Originally Posted by cicido

* Minami-ke ~Okawari~ - [06/01/2008]

Five Days To The Second Season...Well I Ready To Laugh

[golthin]

Originally Posted by SuperKnuckles

Yep. It means 'seconds', but the wording itself does mean 'replacement'. But these types of words evolve with use. Like with many English wording. No wonder the exact definition of the words are always misunderstood.

ok, If you have to use babelfish to find the meaning of the word you have a problem.
If you watch the preview at the end of episode 13 (I don't expect you because it's still raw and nobody has subbed the episode yet) Chiaki tells us that when you want more of something you get "seconds". The problem with babelfish is that they replace words or obmit parts of the word.

replacement=Kawari=替わり
seconds,second helping =Okawari=お替り or お替わり

Notice that they are very similar and maybe for a non native they might sound the same but they have the "O" sound as a difference. Also Okawari can be written in two ways in Kanji but not "kawari" which is replacement. I am not a japanese native but I have been learning Japanese for 5 years and still have problem with some words but Kawari and Okawari are the most simple words you can learn. In japanese just by adding a single letter to a word you can change the meaning a lot.

[SilentBob]

Well, nevertheless, we're getting seconds of Minami-ke, and we didn't even have to ask for it.

[herbert]

Originally Posted by stevency

Spoiler:

Hosaka is mentally broken down officially. His imagination is overboard enough to sent him off to madhouse.

Sensei and Ninomiya-kun ending..... What can I say. Happy ended splatter drama?

Drunken Hiyami senpai is dangerous, good luck, Kana.

Spoiler:

Hosaka is not mad, he is just drunk as anyone else in the night of new year.

And drunken Hiyami is not more dangerous than an undrunken Kana. It must be Chiaki-sama's curse. Now Kana know how Chiaki-sama felt when she did the forced kiss.

[ando]

I'm looking foward to Mako-chan and Touma in Okawari.

[Proto]

replacement=Kawari=替わり
seconds,second helping =Okawari=お替り or お替わり

Notice that they are very similar and maybe for a non native they might sound the same but they have the "O" sound as a difference. Also Okawari can be written in two ways in Kanji but not "kawari" which is replacement. I am not a japanese native but I have been learning Japanese for 5 years and still have problem with some words but Kawari and Okawari are the most simple words you can learn. In japanese just by adding a single letter to a word you can change the meaning a lot.

Hmm... in this case the 'o' is just intended as a honorific you know A similar case to this would be genki, which means health. However when you want to politely ask for someone else health you go for 'Ogenki desu ka?' instead of the informal 'dou? genki?' Likewise, since with 'kawari' you want to politely ask for more food, you add a honorific to the word. In this case the use of the word kawari(replacement) to ask for more food, which might seem like an odd use for Westerners just stems from the fact that Japanese evolved linguistically sepparate from Western languages, and as such you shouldn't expect every word to have an exact, literal and similar equivalent, like it would be case with languages like Spanish or French.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by ProtoMan

Hmm... in this case the 'o' is just intended as a honorific you know A similar case to this would be genki, which means health. However when you want to politely ask for someone else health you go for 'Ogenki desu ka?' instead of the informal 'dou? genki?' Likewise, since with 'kawari' you want to politely ask for more food, you add a honorific to the word. In this case the use of the word kawari(replacement) to ask for more food, which might seem like an odd use for Westerners just stems from the fact that Japanese evolved linguistically sepparate from Western languages, and as such you shouldn't expect every word to have an exact, literal and similar equivalent, like it would be case with languages like Spanish or French.

I agree that the O is used for politeness thus why Okawari is ALways used for "second helping"
or "Seconds". In the other side you don't use Okawari to say "substitute" or "replacement" if you don't want to be look at funny when saying it to a japanese.

I did a little more investigating as my anime schedule is empty and I hate to be wrong. It was not a bad deal because I learned some new kanji that I didn't know before. All the places I checked have Okawari only used for "second helping" and One place had "Kawari" also used as "second helping".

Online dictionaries! As you can see Babel fish is not the best place to find things.
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/c...wwwjdic.cgi?1C
http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html
http://jisho.org/words?jap=okawari&eng=&dict=edict
http://jisho.org/words?jap=kawari&eng=&dict=edict

[Midonin]

Touma and Mako-chan look even better in the second season.

[Falkor]

And yet another fandub… I wonder if they will keep doing that for Okawari or perhaps they might start some auditions…

Spoiler for Random thoughts for the great finale:

Random Thoughts

Love going around in circles

- There’s no way for Mako-chan to come back from the other side now he can even wear a kimono. I guy wearing a kimono is actually very disturbing, but there’s something especial with Mako-chan.
- Touma looks always good in male clothing, but I’m very curious to see her wearing female clothing other than her school uniform. It might be interesting…
- A sense of shame… she got too excited or perhaps it’s too late for her also. Reverse trap forever…
- The customary way of wearing a kimono is without underwear… omg… you know what happens next.
- I cannot imagine Mako-chan without underwear. Thinking about it gives me shivers **Slaps himself multiple times** I can sympathize with Uchida’s dilemma.
- Yoshino might become the new boss in a near future.
- What a long phone call. 14:00~~
- Kana-san or Kana-chan. Fujioka needs more gar.
- Filthy 100 points. I praise Kana again for turning the situation to her own advantage.
- I pity those guys and their hopeless quests.
- Phone bills are expensive and even more if you keep going for two hours. ~~16:00
- Trying to call a person for two hours… some people have more patience than I do…
- Give the phone bill to Keiko… the boss speaks the truth.
- Hosaka has too much GAR. Slowly stripping for no logical reason is only known to him. I wonder if some of that sweat fell on the food he was preparing… kimochiwarui…
- Titanic!!! Haruka looks so hot and elegant.
- Sadly, only kids can hide there…
- Hosaka’s version of Titanic’s ‘classic’ scene is way better, especially when he is holding buckwheat noodles on each hand. lol
- The power of love can overcome a snowing night even if you are wearing few clothes.
- A 10 hour special… wtf…
- Sensei and Ninomiya-kun on the top of a cliff… a car is approaching… again.
- Ninomiya-kun is falling… well… it’s actually a doll.
- What kind of juices are those? I should import them too.
- Chiaki is cute looking for water.
- Staring at Haruka’s goods for more than 3 seconds might cause an intense blood loss.
- I want to play Twister with Haruka.
- omg, the “hair bud” moved on its own. Chiaki-sama inherited chiyo-chan’s prodigy.
- Looking for neesama… overdoses of moé.
- Kana is gonna be raped… I mean… senpai is going to force a kiss on her.
- Sensei and Ninomiya-kun are getting married. Finally, they have the long deserving marriage.
- How the hell did Hosaka-senpai get lost in a mountain outside the city? No point thinking about it, he is comedy gold.

Minami-ke is one of the few shows I was looking forward the most this passing Fall (the other one is Clannad). Okawari has a great task on its shoulders in order reach the same level of entertainment. Hopefully, this new season is up to the pressure and the high/low expectations created by the first.

Originally Posted by ando

I'm looking foward to Mako-chan and Touma in Okawari.

Looking forward to those two also.

I think the term Okawari fits perfectly this “new” season. Many of us knew beforehand that a second season done by another studio would be coming right after this one. However, all the information pointed to an alternate retelling of the events rather than a continuation, but looking at the teaser, the latter seems more likely to happen and so, it’s Okawari. I wonder now what the writers have come up with since they don’t have to be bothered with more introductions, but rather, with extending/fleshing out the great job done by the first studio.

I might post something about Sensei and Ninomiya-kun… it's the best parody of Japanese drama.

[Guardian Enzo]

Spoiler:

That was a terrific finale, although it didn't really feel like one (and maybe it isn't, with Okawari on the horizon). All of our favorites got their moment in the spotlight - even Sensei and Ninomiya-kun with their ten-hour finale - and Hosaka got the last word. It all felt very open-ended, and indeed I could see this extending even beyond Okawari - it's a very episodic show anyway, and as such there's no internal story arc that would be cheapened by a new season of episodes.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Falkor

Spoiler for Random thoughts for the great finale:

- I cannot imagine Mako-chan without underwear. Thinking about it gives me shivers **Slaps himself multiple times** I can sympathize with Uchida’s dilemma.

Well, Touma doesn't need to imagine it - she's seen it first hand!

[todkapuz]

all in all I enjoyed the first season... a fair bit of it reminded me exactly what I expected out of the manga... hehe..... i dunno... I've grown used to this season's charector depictions, not sure how I'll react to next seaon yet.... but it does look like Mako and Touma are going to have a lot of fun... it looks like they are headed to a bath in the next season.... that's going to be really fun....

Well for not expecting much, it was a good diversion from reality. Okawari!

[SuperKnuckles]

Originally Posted by golthin

ok, If you have to use babelfish to find the meaning of the word you have a problem.
If you watch the preview at the end of episode 13 (I don't expect you because it's still raw and nobody has subbed the episode yet) Chiaki tells us that when you want more of something you get "seconds". The problem with babelfish is that they replace words or obmit parts of the word.

replacement=Kawari=替わり
seconds,second helping =Okawari=お替り or お替わり

Notice that they are very similar and maybe for a non native they might sound the same but they have the "O" sound as a difference. Also Okawari can be written in two ways in Kanji but not "kawari" which is replacement. I am not a japanese native but I have been learning Japanese for 5 years and still have problem with some words but Kawari and Okawari are the most simple words you can learn. In japanese just by adding a single letter to a word you can change the meaning a lot.

Yes. Okawari is a word stemming from replacing bowls (hence the Kawari part) then the slangish word basically became official. I seriously doubt the word 'Okawari' came out of the thin air.


Speaking of the show, I just realized that Minami-ke likely spawned off of the popularity of the manga Azumanga which was basically based off of the retarded/stupid/slice-of-life antics of the Sailor Moon girls.

I had this weird moment of dejavu after watching a Sailor Moon episode then watching the Minami-ke episode.

[khryoleoz]

This first half of the series is great. Minami-ke is a very refreshing comedy and out of it I've fallen in love with Kana and Fujioka. They make one hilarious pair. Poor Fujioka! Other great characters with great scenes are Mako-chan, Touma, and Hosaka. Of course, the sibling dynamic is the main draw and attraction. Even the counterpart Minami siblings offered some very interesting contrast. Can't wait for Okawari!

[ZODDGUTS]

Good series can't say it was as good as Azumanga or Ichigo Mashimaro but still a good and fun series to watch. Wanna see as to how the next series is gonna turn out to be.

[grey_moon]

Great way to round off the season, but imagine that sweat dripping into those noodles oO

[The Chaos]

OMG ...I Didn't Ever Laugh That Much in my Life Like This...
This The Best End ..

[Blaat]

I enjoyed the final episode and honestly we should have a bonus episode featuring Hosaka's fantasies, great stuff

Anyway having seen the designs for Okawari in action I've got to say one thing: I really prefer the old one some of the character look scary with the huge eyes.

Thanks to Ayako for finishing this great stuff.

[Sassarai]

Err so Ninomiya kun didnt die or get hit by a car in the final ep.....DISAPPOINTING!