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BluWacky · 2007-03-06, 16:56

The OP's just been announced - it's a cover of "You Raise Me Up", that cheesiest of pop songs (with over 100 covers already done!) by the "Korean Hikki", Lena Park. God, that sounds awful, but I suppose it can't be more "interesting" than Jean-Jacques thingy drunkenly slurring his way through We Were Lovers for Gankutsuou...

Even more characters have been announced, and the whole thing seems to be going VERY meta; not only do we have the mass conglomeration of various Shakespeare characters, but there's a character called William who's a playwright in the theatre that Juliet and co inhabit...

If any one can do meta it's Sato (Princess Tutu, anyone?) but I'm still vaguely worried that it could end up a horrible mess. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

mangafanatic · 2007-03-06, 17:17

"You Raise Me up?" Are you serious!? I mean, there is the miniscule chance that they'll do something incredible with the song, and it won't stink, but I've guessing it's going to be awful. However, there are good shows that have overcome crappy openings. Honey and Clover's psychedelic food opener comes to mind. Overall, I'll reserve judgment until I see it.

I'm still hoping that Sato give them the cohesion necessary to pull a good anime out of this project.

wao · 2007-03-06, 17:42

Why does everyone keep thinking Sato will do something and magikarry fix it, though? If his official credit is anything to go by he would primarily have influence mostly on the sound and acting, and not really the actual script or animation, would he? I don't even know how much he'd be involved in the last part unless it's under a pseudonym or it's just not credited.

But I wouldn't keep my hopes up for Sato doing stuff that would make it more like Tutu. (Coincidentially, for Tutu I have a vague memory that those meta episodes - which I loved - were scripted by none other than Chiaki J. Konaka, although I'm too lazy to check.)

BluWacky · 2007-03-06, 18:04

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Originally Posted by wao

Why does everyone keep thinking Sato will do something and magikarry fix it, though? If his official credit is anything to go by he would primarily have influence mostly on the sound and acting, and not really the actual script or animation, would he?

Doh. I forgot he's the sound director and not the actual director! I feel like a right idiot now...

Guess we'd better wait and see.

MrProphet · 2007-03-06, 18:45

Well, why not?

Most of the Shakespearean characters are fairly minor. For trivia's, for fun's sake, I might suggest.

As long as the main story remains interesting and they keep using Tchaikovsky, I would happily watch even the most convoluted and self-referencing of works.

Sakuya · 2007-03-09, 02:34

I am wondering if they will include that classic Romeo and Juliet theme song?

Kaioshin Sama · 2007-03-09, 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluWacky

The OP's just been announced - it's a cover of "You Raise Me Up", that cheesiest of pop songs (with over 100 covers already done!) by the "Korean Hikki", Lena Park. God, that sounds awful, but I suppose it can't be more "interesting" than Jean-Jacques thingy drunkenly slurring his way through We Were Lovers for Gankutsuou...

Even more characters have been announced, and the whole thing seems to be going VERY meta; not only do we have the mass conglomeration of various Shakespeare characters, but there's a character called William who's a playwright in the theatre that Juliet and co inhabit...

If any one can do meta it's Sato (Princess Tutu, anyone?) but I'm still vaguely worried that it could end up a horrible mess. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

All I ever here is the Josh Groban cover every single day at about 6:30 PM during dinner when my mother puts it on. Oh Boy....

NoSanninWa · 2007-03-09, 04:12

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

I am wondering if they will include that classic Romeo and Juliet theme song?

There's a classic Romeo and Juliette theme song? What are you talking about?

MrProphet · 2007-03-09, 04:16

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

There's a classic Romeo and Juliette theme song? What are you talking about?

He's probably talking about the Romeo and Juliet overture, composed by Tchaikovsky. It's quite a famous "love theme". In fact, you can hear it in the trailer to this anime. 8)

tritoch · 2007-03-09, 04:20

I have the Mr. T cd, Mr. P.

no pun intended.

On topic: I'll be watching this show.

MrProphet · 2007-03-09, 04:25

Personally, I like Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet" ballet score a lot more than Tchaikovsky. The "dance of knights" (aka "Montagues and Capulets") piece is one of the most powerful musical numbers in existence (IMHO, of course).

In fact, I love it and I sincerely hope that they use it for incidental music!

BluWacky · 2007-03-09, 07:39

Sakimoto's composed 30-odd tracks for the show; I don't know whether or not we knew Gankutsuou was going to use classical music as well as the Stranglers dude's stuff beforehand so I don't know if Sakimoto's involvement rules out any Prokofiev or Tschaikovsky (god I hope I spelt that right).

If Sakimoto's previous work is any indicator there will be a lot of very grandiose music anyway, but to be honest I don't know how he'll work with "finite" music - game music is generally designed to be looped over and over again, but I'm hoping things will be slightly less repetitive here.

DangerMouse · 2007-03-09, 11:09

I'm very interested in hearing what he creates for this in his style.

tomoyo112 · 2007-03-09, 11:53

So the official website, has a song playing automatically when you visit it. Would that happen to be the opening song?

Link - http://www.romejuli.jp/top.html

If so not really my cup of tea. I liked We Were Lovers better actually. But it may grow on me who knows? I wish this series would start. Does anyone know when is the date again? I thought it was April but now I've heard late March? Anyone know for sure?

Quajafrie · 2007-03-09, 13:21

I think that the song is good, not anything so special but still I like it, and it's something rare for me to like a j-pop song. It fits more for an ending song than for an opening, though.

Kouji · 2007-03-09, 16:39

It also could be that you guys don't like Josh Groban and his uplifting songs.

BluWacky · 2007-03-09, 18:12

Josh Groban? Uplifting? He is a cheesemeister of the highest Cheddar, but I wouldn't call February Song especially uplifting, for example... anyhoo, I quite like the scratchy low-quality sample of the OP, and think it might work quite nicely. Wonder what the ED will be?

Anyway, Romeo x Juliet isn't starting in March; somewhat to my surprise, it's airing first on CBC from 4th April and then on TBS about a week later amongst other channels. I'd thought it would go to TV Asahi and replace Red Garden in the Tuesday night "slightly arty Gonzo show" slot (Gankutsuou, Garakan etc) but that doesn't appear to be the case. The advantage of the CBC airing is that it hopefully won't end up like TBS shows in where they save the widescreen broadcast for the BS-i airing two weeks later.

There's also a manga starting up in Asuka (venerable but struggling shoujo manga anthology that specialises in darker sci-fi/fantasy fare; home of X, Trinity Blood and Code Geass manga) at the end of the month, with a typically shiny promo image on the main website.

Anyway, thought I'd do an update regarding the characters because the site's been getting a lot of updates recently and I'm frankly really rather interested in how this show's going to turn out. I know much of this is in the thread already, but hey, I've got nothing better to do. Cut for spoilers if you don't want to know ANYTHING about the show's characters.

Spoiler:

MrProphet · 2007-03-09, 19:24

I was reading through the seiyuu list, thinking... don't know that one.. who's that anyway... yet more unknown names... and then !BAM! — Aya Hisakawa and Ayako Kawasumi.

I love Hisakawa and it's a great thing that she's in this series. Too bad it's only an episodic character. 8)

Sakuya · 2007-03-09, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrProphet

He's probably talking about the Romeo and Juliet overture, composed by Tchaikovsky. It's quite a famous "love theme". In fact, you can hear it in the trailer to this anime. 8)

Yup, that's what I meant. I just checked out the trailer and that's not the song...

And if the song on the official site is the opening song, I really like it. I don't really care for lyrics.

kauldron26 · 2007-03-16, 16:36

im holding out hope that this anime could reach the caliber of the masterful gankutsuo...

2007-03-06, 17:42	Link #83
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Why does everyone keep thinking Sato will do something and magikarry fix it, though? If his official credit is anything to go by he would primarily have influence mostly on the sound and acting, and not really the actual script or animation, would he? I don't even know how much he'd be involved in the last part unless it's under a pseudonym or it's just not credited. But I wouldn't keep my hopes up for Sato doing stuff that would make it more like Tutu. (Coincidentially, for Tutu I have a vague memory that those meta episodes - which I loved - were scripted by none other than Chiaki J. Konaka, although I'm too lazy to check.) __________________ Thanks for the fish

2007-03-09, 16:39	Link #96
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2007-03-09, 18:12	Link #97
BluWacky 尻の竜 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: London, UK Age: 40	Josh Groban? Uplifting? He is a cheesemeister of the highest Cheddar, but I wouldn't call February Song especially uplifting, for example... anyhoo, I quite like the scratchy low-quality sample of the OP, and think it might work quite nicely. Wonder what the ED will be? Anyway, Romeo x Juliet isn't starting in March; somewhat to my surprise, it's airing first on CBC from 4th April and then on TBS about a week later amongst other channels. I'd thought it would go to TV Asahi and replace Red Garden in the Tuesday night "slightly arty Gonzo show" slot (Gankutsuou, Garakan etc) but that doesn't appear to be the case. The advantage of the CBC airing is that it hopefully won't end up like TBS shows in where they save the widescreen broadcast for the BS-i airing two weeks later. There's also a manga starting up in Asuka (venerable but struggling shoujo manga anthology that specialises in darker sci-fi/fantasy fare; home of X, Trinity Blood and Code Geass manga) at the end of the month, with a typically shiny promo image on the main website. Anyway, thought I'd do an update regarding the characters because the site's been getting a lot of updates recently and I'm frankly really rather interested in how this show's going to turn out. I know much of this is in the thread already, but hey, I've got nothing better to do. Cut for spoilers if you don't want to know ANYTHING about the show's characters. Spoiler: Romeo (from...Romeo and Juliet, unsurprisingly) - the son of Duke Montague who believes his rule is just and fair until he descends to the city to mingle with the people. Betrothed to a girl he does not love, he falls in love with Juliet. Played by Takahiro Mizushima (CHRIS IN SUTEPRI! Dude, he was awesome. Also Kouta in Stellvia amongst others.) Juliet (duh) - the survivor of the Capulet family, disguised as a boy and not to be informed of her heritage until her sixteenth birthday. She falls in love with Romeo. To be voiced by Fumie Mizusawa (Hikaru in Otogizoushi, Gidget in Eureka 7). Odin (a figure from Norse mythology, not Shakespeare, although Othello was renamed Odin for the 2000 Hollywood film O) - Juliet's assumed identity since the tragedy of her family's assassination fourteen years ago. The Crimson Whirlwind (...not Shakespeare) - a vigilante giving aid to those suffering under the Montagues. Guess who it might be! Francisco (a guard in Hamlet, minor character) - childhood friend of Curio, a sharp-tongued ace archer and strategist. Played by Hirojumi Nojima (Mamoru in RahXephon, Gainer in Overman King Gainer) Curio (has four lines in Twelfth Night, one of which being "Will you go hunt, my lord?") - ace swordsman and Juliet's tutor. His father was killed 14 years ago. Strong but slow-witted. Played by Kousuke Toriumi (Hayate in Pretear, Kanna in Iroha) Cordelia (female lead in King Lear) - childhood friend of Juliet whose parents were also assassinated 14 years ago, she acts as a surrogate elder sister to her. Played by Miyu Matsuki (who seems to specialise in drippy women; Shouko in Fafner, Kisa in Eikyuu Alice Rondo etc.) Antonio (four different Shakespearean characters, but probably the young sea captain in Twelfth Night) - the "Baker Street Irregular" of the cast, conveying messages. Voiced by Ryou Hirohashi (best known for playing Sora in Kaleido Star) Montague (R&J) - evil dictator who seized power in a coup d'etat from the Capulets 14 years ago. Kouji Ishii (Kimura-sensei in Azumanga, Hamdo in NTHT) does the honours. Mercutio (R&J) - Romeo's cousin and friend, occasionally jealous of him and aspiring to be the heir to the Archduke. Voiced by Tetsuya Kakihara (Prince Bright in Futagohime, perhaps best known as the voice of Graf Eisen in Nanoha As as he was born in Dusseldorf!) Hermione (Sicilian queen in Winter's Tale) - only daughter of the Bologneo family, betrothed to and captivated by Romeo. Voiced by Sayaka Ohara (seiyuu behind Yuuko in XXXHolic and Raquel Casull in Scrapped Princess amongst many others) Benvolio (R&J) - son of Neo Verona's mayor and a friend of Romeo's; concerned about Romeo and Archduke Montague's relationship. Voiced by Shinnosuka Tachibana (notable for playing various male students and men in shows; he's not exactly a big name, bless him) William (The Real World!) - popular dramaturg and owner of the theatre that Juliet lives in whose works satirise the nobility. No seiyuu announced yet. Emilia (Iago's wife in Othello) - an actress in William's theatre, an acquaintance of Cordelia and Antonio. She longs to be a noble. Played by Ayako Kawasumi (veteran seiyuu currently playing Nodame in Nodame Cantabile) Portia (lead female in Merchant of Venice) - no character details announced. Voiced by Aya Hisakawa (another veteran; if you don't know any roles she's done then you probably don't care about seiyuu).

2007-03-06, 16:56	Link #81
BluWacky 尻の竜 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: London, UK Age: 40	The OP's just been announced - it's a cover of "You Raise Me Up", that cheesiest of pop songs (with over 100 covers already done!) by the "Korean Hikki", Lena Park. God, that sounds awful, but I suppose it can't be more "interesting" than Jean-Jacques thingy drunkenly slurring his way through We Were Lovers for Gankutsuou... Even more characters have been announced, and the whole thing seems to be going VERY meta; not only do we have the mass conglomeration of various Shakespeare characters, but there's a character called William who's a playwright in the theatre that Juliet and co inhabit... If any one can do meta it's Sato (Princess Tutu, anyone?) but I'm still vaguely worried that it could end up a horrible mess. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

2007-03-06, 17:17	Link #82
mangafanatic Member Join Date: Dec 2005	"You Raise Me up?" Are you serious!? I mean, there is the miniscule chance that they'll do something incredible with the song, and it won't stink, but I've guessing it's going to be awful. However, there are good shows that have overcome crappy openings. Honey and Clover's psychedelic food opener comes to mind. Overall, I'll reserve judgment until I see it. I'm still hoping that Sato give them the cohesion necessary to pull a good anime out of this project.

2007-03-06, 18:45	Link #85
MrProphet The Commissar Vanishes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 41	Well, why not? Most of the Shakespearean characters are fairly minor. For trivia's, for fun's sake, I might suggest. As long as the main story remains interesting and they keep using Tchaikovsky, I would happily watch even the most convoluted and self-referencing of works.

2007-03-09, 02:34	Link #86
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	I am wondering if they will include that classic Romeo and Juliet theme song?

2007-03-09, 04:20	Link #90
tritoch 神 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-town	I have the Mr. T cd, Mr. P. no pun intended. On topic: I'll be watching this show.

2007-03-09, 04:25	Link #91
MrProphet The Commissar Vanishes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 41	Personally, I like Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet" ballet score a lot more than Tchaikovsky. The "dance of knights" (aka "Montagues and Capulets") piece is one of the most powerful musical numbers in existence (IMHO, of course). In fact, I love it and I sincerely hope that they use it for incidental music!

2007-03-09, 07:39	Link #92
BluWacky 尻の竜 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: London, UK Age: 40	Sakimoto's composed 30-odd tracks for the show; I don't know whether or not we knew Gankutsuou was going to use classical music as well as the Stranglers dude's stuff beforehand so I don't know if Sakimoto's involvement rules out any Prokofiev or Tschaikovsky (god I hope I spelt that right). If Sakimoto's previous work is any indicator there will be a lot of very grandiose music anyway, but to be honest I don't know how he'll work with "finite" music - game music is generally designed to be looped over and over again, but I'm hoping things will be slightly less repetitive here.

2007-03-09, 11:09	Link #93
DangerMouse Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	I'm very interested in hearing what he creates for this in his style.

2007-03-09, 11:53	Link #94
tomoyo112 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	So the official website, has a song playing automatically when you visit it. Would that happen to be the opening song? Link - http://www.romejuli.jp/top.html If so not really my cup of tea. I liked We Were Lovers better actually. But it may grow on me who knows? I wish this series would start. Does anyone know when is the date again? I thought it was April but now I've heard late March? Anyone know for sure?

2007-03-09, 13:21	Link #95
Quajafrie Not here anymore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 32	I think that the song is good, not anything so special but still I like it, and it's something rare for me to like a j-pop song. It fits more for an ending song than for an opening, though.

2007-03-09, 19:24	Link #98
MrProphet The Commissar Vanishes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 41	I was reading through the seiyuu list, thinking... don't know that one.. who's that anyway... yet more unknown names... and then !BAM! — Aya Hisakawa and Ayako Kawasumi. I love Hisakawa and it's a great thing that she's in this series. Too bad it's only an episodic character. 8)

2007-03-16, 16:36	Link #100
kauldron26 Med Student Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 40	im holding out hope that this anime could reach the caliber of the masterful gankutsuo...