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2008-10-21, 18:25 | Link #2203 |
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once they were inside the damocles the battle with the OOBK was done
they were going to use the damocles inorder to force a surrender (which he did) after that there would be no way for suzaku and kallen to fight
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2008-10-21, 18:26 | Link #2204 | ||
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2008-10-21, 18:26 | Link #2205 | |
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Yeah, in my enthusiasm I wrote beat when I meant er...basically what you just said |
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2008-10-21, 18:40 | Link #2211 |
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The only thing I could think about is that lelouch was surprised by Gino. But apparently, Gino did something "just as planned". He planned to do what he has done, so the Guren was able to enter the Blaze. But imo, Lelouch thought that something like that will happen. Lelouch was not stupid, he knew that he will not be the only one to think about many solutions.
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2008-10-21, 18:45 | Link #2212 | |
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2008-10-21, 18:56 | Link #2213 | |
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What surprised lelouch, imo, is gino's knightmare. More powerful than what was planned by lelouch. |
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2008-10-21, 19:07 | Link #2214 | |
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I didn't think about that, good point. |
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2008-10-21, 19:15 | Link #2215 | |
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One of the few times when he seems really surprised and unable to do anything is on the Ikaruga, but then Rolo saved him. But, he lost his mind when he thought that nunnaly died, so from this point to when rolo saved him, he was not the lelouch we know, the one who plans everything. |
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2008-10-21, 19:17 | Link #2216 |
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actually he is still planning about what to do in ep 19
he only gives up after he spots shnizel (and understands that what ever he does there is no way out) and even then he still has a plan (only its not made to save him)
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2008-10-21, 19:29 | Link #2217 | ||
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2008-10-21, 19:43 | Link #2218 | |
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Don't forget when shirley died. He seemed to not have lost his mind, but what he did at the cult proves that he had turned a bit crazy. Things could have turned much more wrong because he used a bad strategy imo: brut force. |
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2008-10-21, 20:49 | Link #2219 |
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I have to say, some of you aren't giving Kallen the credit she deserves. She won, fair and square against Suzaku. He had his live on hax, she had the superior frame; they were even, but she BARELY pulled off the victory, albeit, not enough to actually keep going and stop Lelouch. It would be horrible planning on their part to do something so unpredictible as depend on Suzaku to stop Kallen, but not get killed or kill her in the process. It would be an incredibly stupid way of doing things when they could have just faked his death much easier in the two month gap between capturing Damocles and Lelouch's 'death.'
There are too many things that could have gone wrong. And don't give me the 'he predicted Schneizel's answers speech.' Lelouch and Schneizel think very much alike (their ideals and dreams are very different, but they think alike). Knowing what Schneizel knows and what kind of person he is, he could extrapolate from that. Lelouch, however, was clearly not expecting Kallen to bust into Avalon, etc. He did not have her factored in perfectly. And at any rate, he knew that Kallen had superior mech hax and Suzaku had 'live on' hax; other than that, they had always prooved to be about even. He would have been a fool to have something so important be determined by the flip of a coin. Also, Suzaku himself admitted that the fight was even; saying that he was talking to Kallen makes no sense to me. Both of them appear to be talking to themselves as to why neither can win. At any rate, to have the final match up between the two main mechs in the series to be staged would be a major slap in the face. It seems to me in the end the Black King and Queen won their respectively battles, which is fine by me...artistically and thematically. youngde, signing off.
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