2012-08-22, 16:03 | Link #21 | |
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Thats what they said about Brooke and Ryumas rematch.
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2012-08-22, 16:45 | Link #22 | |
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I remember there were some people who thought Law killed Smoker in their duel; the idea of that was preposterous, to say the least.
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2012-08-22, 23:55 | Link #24 |
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Nice chapter. Awesome Smoker vs. Vergo should be a awesome match up. I wonder how Smoker's report this. Losing a Vice Admiral does not go unnoticed. Smoker being head of G-5 sounds pretty cool. Zoro is turning into a babysitter. |
2012-08-23, 01:34 | Link #25 |
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I'm gonna have to say I see Smoker losing if he fights Vergo.... not to say he won't put a good fight or anything.... it's just...
Vergo was just introduced, and we don't even really know what his power is. They way I see it, Smoker and Vergo will fight, we'll see Vergo's power, and Smoker will lose.
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2012-08-23, 02:44 | Link #26 | |
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That's why I don't see them going all out in this arc.
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2012-08-23, 09:01 | Link #27 |
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It was great seeing Zoro call Luffy out on taking eh NW seriously and then Luffy doing that attack(which was awesome)
Zoro basically playing his part as "first mate" good to know he's always the same and there to put Luffy in his place when he needs to be. I just wonder how many more crazy attack techniques Oda can come up with Luffy, his new is lolz!
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2012-08-23, 10:04 | Link #28 |
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As far as Smoker goes, while I still sort of doubt that he'll beat Vergo, he may not necessarily lose against him, either. Again, it pretty much depends on just how deadly a fighter Vergo is. We already know he's capable of using haki (it was established before the skip that ALL VA-level marines are capable of using it), but we don't exactly know what fighting style he has, aside from the bamboo flute we saw him using as a weapon. Personally, I think it would be pretty cool if he had a unique martial arts style that ISN'T rokushiki (which we've seen various other VAs use), but that's just me....
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2012-08-23, 10:40 | Link #29 |
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^If Vergo was just a marine VA, then I would definitely expect him to use rokushiki. But since he is also part of DoFlamingo's gang, he should have something more.
That being said, I am completely uninterested in seeing Smoker fight. Beyond his initial introduction, his powers have never been that impressive, and I've honestly never been impressed with him as an antagonist (for Luffy). It certainly doesn't help that I think his design is boring and his scar really lame. Give me more Tashigi, less Smoker... |
2012-08-23, 10:46 | Link #30 |
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^Actually, that is exactly why I am so eager to see Smoker fight. You just know there has to be more to him than just going poof. Although I have to admit that I myself am having a hard time imagining what else he could do with his power.
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2012-08-23, 11:13 | Link #32 | |
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I kind of agree, but just to an extent. Admittedly, Smoker's not my favorite marine either, but I do think he still has potential as a fighter, especially now that he's a VA. I pointed this out a while back, but IMO he actually showed more skill with his jutte in Tashigi's body during that one really brief scuffle with Luffy than he ever did in any of his past fights. Plus, as I already said last post, the fact that he IS a VA should mean that he's a haki user now, so that should open up new possibilities for his fighting style, as well.... But hey, if he does end up jobbing to Vergo, at least I'll still have post-skip Hina to look forward to (who hopefully is also a VA by this point)! |
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2012-08-23, 15:10 | Link #33 |
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Reason why Smokers been seemingly dull fighter is because he has never really needed much fighting against Luffy. He is logia-user and he has seastone jutte.
But not all strong pirates are devilfruit powered, so he has to be able to do something else than just be poking his stick around.
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2012-08-24, 03:33 | Link #35 | |
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I sooo hope Smoker wins against Vergo. He really needs to redeem himself, because we all should know that he is stronger than his fight against Law suggested. (I mean that's like meassuring Zoro's power after he loses against Perona, or more recently saying Luffy is weak, because he lost against Caesar)
He is Luffy's Garp and I can't wait to see some of his new techniques finally. Then again, Luffy is destined to fight the strongest, so I can see that Smoker is beating Vergo but then in the end loses because they have his heart (Like Monet stepping in and clutching his heart the moment before he delivers the victory blow) But it's rare enough that a non-Straw Hat gets revenge time, so I'll keep my fingers crossed Quote:
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2012-08-24, 09:38 | Link #36 | |
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I don't think that's much of an excuse. Both Crocodile and Eneru are logias and they showed a lot more variation in their abilities against Luffy than Smoker ever did so far (case in point: Eneru was one of the first enemy haki users we've seen in the series, despite haki not having been properly introduced to us readers at the time). That's why I'm hoping that our smokey friend reveals that he knows some Smoke-Fu or learned MMA or something during the skip, lest I find him to be as interesting as watching paint dry from this moment forth..... |
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When has Coby ever fought Luffy to a near standstill, or cornered him at all? Being trained by Garp is irrelevant in this comparison.
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2012-08-24, 11:01 | Link #38 | |
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Enel and Crocodile had to do all those variations because their other methods didn't work or they were just being dumb (e.g. Crocodile drying him up and not ripping him into half). |
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2012-08-24, 11:22 | Link #39 |
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Depends. Is being a one-trick pony really THAT effective if your enemies eventually wise up to you? Smokey had it good when Luffy was a novice with haki, but things are quite different now, to say the least. If anyone else could think of a better alternative for him to improve aside from expanding his repertoire of techniques, I'm all ears.....
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2012-08-24, 11:22 | Link #40 | |
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Smoker is one of the faster Logia users, too (he was faster than Gear 2nd Luffy, I think even Enel can't keep up with that) Also he probably designed the bike he rides by himself, which is pretty impressive, if you ask me. And it's not like we ever saw Smoker go all out on someone. I really hope the fight againt Vergo changes that. People think Smoker has a weak DF, but he would beat someone like Crocodile, if you ask me, who has a rather powerful DF, but didn't train his physical abilities.
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