(L) Magi - Labyrinth of Magic [manga]

[hamazura]

heck, solomon is fvkin broken, and each of his household can extreme magic easily.
alma toran vs earth pls, earth would be destroyed in 3 second

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by aohige

Just because Aladdin (and or the author)'s definition, and by extent the polytheistic Asian view of gods, does not conform to Western monotheistic definition of God, does not mean anything to the in-universe definition.

That's not the point. What I'm trying to say is that he's just a human. Aladdin calls him "god" in the sense that he's someone who created a world. But he's still just a human. A very powerful one who can use magic, but human nonetheless.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

That's not the point. What I'm trying to say that he's just very powerful human. Aladdin calls him "god" in the sense that he's a magician who created a world. But he's still just a human. A very powerful one who can use magic, but human nonetheless.

I was under the impression he stopped being human altogether when Alma Toran was destroyed and Solomon created a new world.

We know he was human, but that doesn't mean he still is human. It hasn't really been shown yet, making what you say nothing but supposition. Though that applies to my interpretation as well. Fact is, neither of us know exactly what the current Solomon is yet.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by anonfr

I was under the impression he stopped being human altogether when Alma Toran was destroyed and Solomon created a new world.

I don't think so. No one ever said that. Aladdin didn't say that.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I don't think so. No one ever said that. Aladdin didn't say that.

Aladdin said he was God, but apparently that doesn't mean much to you. No one ever said the exact words "Solomon is still human" Either.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

That's not the point. What I'm trying to say is that he's just a human. Aladdin calls him "god" in the sense that he's someone who created a world. But he's still just a human. A very powerful one who can use magic, but human nonetheless.

I don't think "human" have any significance here, considering how immortal Djinns such as Ugo, which can fit the definition of gods in any Eastern mythologies, was once a human. Japan is known for eight million gods which many of them are of human origins FFS.
And whether or not Solomon shed his mortality is yet to be seen.

You're arguing a really silly semantics here, until the story exposes otherwise, if Aladdin (who has more knowledge than any other character in the series) considers him "god of his world", then for time being we should consider him a god in-universe.
Otherwise, you should take this semantic battle to Ootaka.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by anonfr

Aladdin said he was God, but apparently that doesn't mean much to you. No one ever said the exact words "Solomon is still human" Either.

Aladdin said he was a god in the sense that he created a world. You are attributing a lot more to that on your own. Aladding never said that he became immortal or that he wasn't human anymore and whatnot. Those are wild guesses at best.

Originally Posted by aohige

And whether or not Solomon shed his mortality is yet to be seen.

That's what I'm saying. So we don't disagree.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Aladdin said he was a god in the sense that he created a world. You are attributing a lot more to that on your own. Aladding never said that he became immortal or that he wasn't human anymore and whatnot. Those are wild guesses at best.

My wild guesses would be as good as your wild guesses. These are things that were never stated to begin with at all. He never says anything proving what you think, or contradicting what I think

Also you're adding context that doesn't exist. He didn't say "He's a god in the sense that he created this world."

He says "He is the creator of this world, the God of this Divine Providence"

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Aladdin said he was a god in the sense that he created a world. You are attributing a lot more to that on your own. Aladding never said that he became immortal or that he wasn't human anymore and whatnot. Those are wild guesses at best.

You have nothing at this point to argue Aladdin's definition, or the author's definition.
Like I said, this is a really stupid semantics squabble.

Until proven otherwise, follow the context of the story, and not your own. Leave your convictions out of a fictional story.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by anonfr

"He is the creator of this world, the God of this Divine Providence"

To me, that clearly implies that he's calling him a god because he created the world. Also, he said "god," not God. There's a difference.

Originally Posted by aohige

Until proven otherwise, follow the context of the story, and not your own.

That's what I'm doing.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

To me, that clearly implies that he's calling him a god because he created the world. Also, he said "god," not God. There's a difference.

Holy mother...

There is not a difference. THIS IS WRITTEN IN JAPANESE.
"god" and "God" is a WESTERN translator interpretation, they are written exactly the freakin SAME in the original context.
Japanese does not differentiate a monotheistic and polytheistic "god", language wise.

Please. Drop it, it's getting really stupid.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by aohige

Please. Drop it, it's getting really stupid.

If you think it's stupid don't read it. Who do you think you are?

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by aohige

Holy mother...

There is not a difference. THIS IS WRITTEN IN JAPANESE.
"god" and "God" is a WESTERN translator interpretation, they are written exactly the freakin SAME in the original context.
Japanese does not differentiate a monotheistic and polytheistic "god", language wise.

Please. Drop it, it's getting really stupid.

Are you also starting to think about like, Hurcules? All this talk about a man becoming a god. I don't know, it's just popping into my mind.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

If you think it's stupid don't read it. Who do you think you are?

Someone who understands the actual language and lines the manga is written in, and know for a FACT that you are wrong in assuming?

[hamazura]

geez this pointless debate about god, solomon is an OP child from alma toran and he created the current world. isnt that enough?

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by hamazura

geez this pointless debate about god, solomon is an OP child from alma toran and he created the current world. isnt that enough?

Now that depends. Is it enough to consider him awesome? Or is it enough to consider him a god? I think it's both, some disagree.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by aohige

Someone who understand the actual language and lines the manga is written is, and know for a FACT that you are wrong in assuming?

So? That doesn't give you the right to tell others what they should past or not. You're not a mod.

Again, if you think it's stupid, don't read it. But don't go around trying to make others do what you want. It's against the rules of the board too, you know?

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

So? That doesn't give you the right to tell others what they should past or not. You're not a mod.

Again, if you think it's stupid, don't read it. But don't go around trying to make others do what you want. It's against the rule of the board too, you know?

Instead of going passive-aggressive jibberjabber, can you actually refute with points?
I mean, you do realize you were wrong right?

I *asked* you to drop it, because it's stupid. Everyone has the right to ask.

Originally Posted by anonfr

Are you also starting to think about like, Hurcules? All this talk about a man becoming a god. I don't know, it's just popping into my mind.

I believe Herc was considered a demi-god in its own mythological context.
I could be wrong, but we need a greek expert to shed more light on that.

[hamazura]

he was just giving you two advice to drop this topic because its stupid and pointless. it doesnt matter if he is almighty god or human. he is OP and created the world either way.

rmm, and mod will come here in any second i think.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by aohige

I *asked* you to drop it, because it's stupid. Everyone has the right to ask.

It's stupid in your opinion. And no, you don't have the right to ask me to drop it unless I'm posting something that goes against the rules of the board. Otherwise, if you don't like what I post, don't read it (how many times did I say that already?).

You should drop it.